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Old 06-16-2011, 01:35 AM   #1
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Soft top or hard top?

I'll be buying a new Rubicon Unlimited in a bit. I think I will go with the Freedom top instead of the soft top, but I would like to know the pros and cons of both. I've read that the hard top reduces noise and stuff, but does it make that much of a difference with anything really?

I also thought about going with the soft top and getting a hard top later, but looking at prices online, the hard top is like 2000 to buy, but going with it when I buy the Jeep is only like 700. So I guess it'd be smartest to go with it now if that's what I end up choosing?

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Hardtop would be better.I always see Craigslist sell a complete set of soft top as low as 300.

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If you feel you need the hard top, but would like the versatility of the soft top, then get the dual top option and have both. Personally I only have a soft top and wouldn't have it any other way.
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I agree with Tom- if you get the hard top I would plan to get both. You are gonna want a soft top during the "top off" times of the year. The dual top option is good because they give you a break.

I currently have hard top only. The disadvantages of the hard top are:
1) It takes two people to get it off. You can get a hoist to help with this, but it still some work (back in the garage, unscrew 8 bolts, raise the hoist, etc).

2) You can't take the top with you. This is a pain on days where it might rain, or if you are going on vacation.
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I'll be buying a new Rubicon Unlimited in a bit. I think I will go with the Freedom top instead of the soft top, but I would like to know the pros and cons of both. I've read that the hard top reduces noise and stuff, but does it make that much of a difference with anything really?

I also thought about going with the soft top and getting a hard top later, but looking at prices online, the hard top is like 2000 to buy, but going with it when I buy the Jeep is only like 700. So I guess it'd be smartest to go with it now if that's what I end up choosing?
It's $700 in addition to the $1300 the soft top is. That is always confusing the way they word it on the stickers. I'm surprised no one has mentioned storage and removal of the hard top. An Unlimited hard top is pretty big. It's awkward and heavy. Do you have space to store it, and someone to assist in it's removal? A hoist is pretty much a must if you will be removing the hard top every time the sun shines.... Dual top group is a much better plan if you feel the need for a hard top. Many of us manage perfectly fine with only a soft top. Jeep heaters work great, and soft tops aren't really much louder than hard tops, and the hard tops are hotter than heck in the summer unless you insulate them.
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I also thought about going with the soft top and getting a hard top later, but looking at prices online, the hard top is like 2000 to buy, but going with it when I buy the Jeep is only like 700. So I guess it'd be smartest to go with it now if that's what I end up choosing?
Yeah, like Inferno said--the $700 price tag is an illusion. Your Jeep comes standard with a soft top. Selecting the hard top option only adds $700, but it also takes away the soft top. In other words, you're giving the soft top back, and getting a hard top instead. So the transaction really costs you a soft top plus $700. By contrast, if you pick the option where you get both tops, you'll see that the soft top comes standard (no extra cost) and the hard top adds ~$2000.

For a 4 door, the hard tops are heavy, basically impossible to remove alone without a hoist attached to the ceiling of your garage, need to be stored somewhere when taken off, and cannot be taken with you in the event you get some where only to find it's going to rain or be brutally hot (the soft top by contrast folds down in the rear and can always just be put back up).

If you can only get one, I have and recommend the soft top. Noise is not an issue and the Jeep's heater produces a ridiculous amount of heat in the winter time. Putting a soft top up/down is much easier than doing so with a hard top, especially without a hoist, and certainly so if you're away from home (where your hoist is).

The only downsides--in my view anyway--for the soft top are that you should make sure it doesn't collect too much snow (6+ inches), you cannot scrap the plastic windows when they gather frost, and the rear window doesn't pneumatically lift when you want to load things in the rear.

If I had a garage (which I do not), and I could mount a hoist, and the hardtop could stay on the hoist permanently as a storage location, then I would consider having a hardtop for winter use only. Otherwise, I'll stick with the soft top.
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I love my hardtop. It's been hanging on my hoist in the garage for a month or more now. The versatility of the freedom tops is cool also, open air without doors but keeps direct sunlight off my seats on the hot days. Yesterday was 107 out so it is about to go back on for a couple months. I have no regrets by not having the soft top, but will be looking for an emergency top when I get some cash in case I am away from home and get caught in a downpour. Another note, when shopping for my Jeep last year every soft top I saw on the used lots had the tailgate bent at the top right corner. Obviously the previous owner of every soft top Jeep I saw was not careful enough to get the track in place before closing tailgate. The dealer where I get my warranty work done had 7 used JK's side by side and they all had the bent corners. My opinion and observation only...
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This is great guys, thanks a lot for all the info. After reading these I see it would actually be a good idea for me to get the soft top. I don't have a garage, and now the idea of being able to put it up or down at my leisure sounds good.

Plastic windows were mentioned. Does getting a soft top mean I have to get manual windows and locks?
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This is great guys, thanks a lot for all the info. After reading these I see it would actually be a good idea for me to get the soft top. I don't have a garage, and now the idea of being able to put it up or down at my leisure sounds good.

Plastic windows were mentioned. Does getting a soft top mean I have to get manual windows and locks?
No. They were referring to the plastic rear and sail panel windows. You can get power windows with the soft top no problem. Unless you go with 1/2 doors of course. Lol.
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Yeah, like Inferno said--the $700 price tag is an illusion. Your Jeep comes standard with a soft top. Selecting the hard top option only adds $700, but it also takes away the soft top. In other words, you're giving the soft top back, and getting a hard top instead. So the transaction really costs you a soft top plus $700. By contrast, if you pick the option where you get both tops, you'll see that the soft top comes standard (no extra cost) and the hard top adds ~$2000.

For a 4 door, the hard tops are heavy, basically impossible to remove alone without a hoist attached to the ceiling of your garage, need to be stored somewhere when taken off, and cannot be taken with you in the event you get some where only to find it's going to rain or be brutally hot (the soft top by contrast folds down in the rear and can always just be put back up).

If you can only get one, I have and recommend the soft top. Noise is not an issue and the Jeep's heater produces a ridiculous amount of heat in the winter time. Putting a soft top up/down is much easier than doing so with a hard top, especially without a hoist, and certainly so if you're away from home (where your hoist is).

The only downsides--in my view anyway--for the soft top are that you should make sure it doesn't collect too much snow (6+ inches), you cannot scrap the plastic windows when they gather frost, and the rear window doesn't pneumatically lift when you want to load things in the rear.

If I had a garage (which I do not), and I could mount a hoist, and the hardtop could stay on the hoist permanently as a storage location, then I would consider having a hardtop for winter use only. Otherwise, I'll stick with the soft top.
Found that out way back. I chose a hard top and when I picked up, I was like "where is the soft top" I was pissed. The dealer ended up giving me the 30 inch tires of a salvage jeep. So I was happy
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I have the premium soft top. Its quite, stays warm, and don't have you use up part of my garage or buy some hoist to store my top. And I never even look twice at a hard top, and I live in southwest michigan, the lake effect snow capital of the world!
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If you MUST have a hardtop, then you MUST get a soft top.

I got the Dual Top option, because I wanted a Hard Top for winter, but if I could only have one or the other... it'd be soft top. It's a jeep! That's part of the value equation for me.
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:41 AM   #14
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My Wrangler came with both. I think the Jeep looks better with the hard top. That being said, I have a hoist in my garage to remove it.

If you don't have a garage then I wouldn't get a hard top.

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Old 03-25-2013, 08:43 AM   #15
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I've had both on my 2 door JK. I like the hardtop much better! Much quieter. Easy to see out windows. Got limo tint on the glass windows. Easier to load camping supplies in the back. More security. Rear defroster and wiper. No more cloudy plastic windows.

It wasn't much of a pain to take off with 2 people. Easy to store upright with a homemade dolly.

Having said that I don't feel a need to take it off much. I get 90% of the open air feeling by just popping out the Freedom Panels. After considering the soundbar and the expanded metal flooring of my roof rack it doesn't create much more visible openness with the whole top removed.

Obviously it's a personal choice. Hardtop for me. If I wanted I'd get a safari top instead of a full soft top for those rainy days...
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Oh yeah...plus I live in Florida and the hardtop holes the A/C in better; especially with the limo tint on the windows. It's waaaay too hot most if the year here for me to go topless.
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Just my 2 cents. Go with the dual top option if you can afford it, and get full doors. Why would I say this when I purposely got a soft top and half doors? I love mine except in winter - its still ok, but I hate zipping down the windows (when they are in) and the soft top seems to show wear more after a few years making your jeep look older.

If you get both tops, you can try both and sell whatever you dont need - its still cheaper to get from the factory.

If you get full doors, you can always get aftermarket half doors, even if they are just the tube kind. This is much cheaper than going the other route if you decide you want full doors.
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I will be getting a JK shortly, I have owned 2 YJ's. 1 was a soft top, 1 was a hardtop. Having a hardtop only is a pain in the ass. The soft top is way more user friendly. And when you turn the heat on it really doesn't matter weather it has a soft or hard top. I will be going soft top only.
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I live in Missouri. Weather here can change hr by hr. Case in point, had top open(top open and windows out) on friday and saturday, snowed all day sunday and still flurries today. Have over a ft on the ground. Since I knew I wanted the top open or down as much as possible, one of tbe main reasons to get a jeep, I know I wouldnt have the hard top because it took to much planning to go topless. The soft top, not so much. If you walk outside and its nice, unzip windows, roll up with towels or whatever and pop the top down. Takes less than 5 minutes. Its as easy and fast to put up.

And another reason I didn't opt for the dual top is because I searched leaking tops. Heard some bad things about the freedom tops and them not sealing properly sometimes, gonna get worse with time taking off and on as you are more likely to screw up seals over time. I have yet to have water get through unless you are not paying attention when washing and spray a zipper.

One reason I would like the hard top thougb is when hauling something bigger, the window pops up with hard top, and you need to unzip the window and rezip when loaded to do it again when home. Only had this happen twice.

These are just my opinions. And I live in the country so I am not extremely worried about locking up. But if I lived in say St. Louis (closest city to me) I would like the extra security of the hard top.
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When I ordered my Jeep I got just the Hard top. The first summer with the Jeep I was regretting it. I like the hard top for the winter but its a bitch to take off. So I went out and got a summer top. I would definitely go with just the soft top or the duel top
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Mine came with a hardtop. I wish I would have pushed for the softtop because I hate the hardtop. So I bought an ORH soft top and will sell the hardtop soon.
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It sometimes baffles me that these threads from 2011 get bumped. It's not like someone was asking a new question along the same vein... they were answering the question. I have a feeling that the OP made a choice by now.

Anyway, I'm a soft top only kind of gal. This way, I can take my top down without having to worry about storage. I don't live in a place where the winters are extreme. I just make sure to clear heavy, wet snow off the top. It stays warm enough for me, and I don't feel like it's loud to the point where I can't have conversation.
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JKU soft tops are all over CL..... $500 +/- i saw a guy selling a brand new PREMIUM soft top for $800...thats a $1400 top aftermarket..

Now for 2 doors it a bit tougher to find a good soft top "used".....

Buying a hardtop afterward IF you change your mind...good luck.
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Speaking as an owner & from a dealership tech point of view, I will only get a soft top. 99% of our water leak issues are hard tops. And the soft top leaks I have done are from user error putting the top back on normally. Yes visibility is better with a hard top glass windows but you learn how to adjust & use your mirrors properly with a soft top. And I have no problem of staying cool or warm with a soft top. The newer soft tops are way better then previous generations.
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I have had the both of them. Soft tops are noisy, the windows get scratched and fogged and just don't look as good. This new freedom hard top is awesome. It is quiet and the panels are easy to remove and it looks great. You also have more security with the hard top. In Arizona I would say that the ratio of hard top to soft tops on the jks is about 30 to 1. It won't be long and the soft tops will be the thing of the past.
The older TJs are just the opposite, probably soft top to hard top 20 to 1.
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You're in El Paso, from memory, there are times of the year you will really want a hard top and times you will really want to go topless.

But it does seem that the few Unlimited models I see around where I live have a hard top on most of the time. (Mostly Wranglers here it seems, very few Unlimited variants)
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I'll be buying a new Rubicon Unlimited in a bit. I think I will go with the Freedom top instead of the soft top, but I would like to know the pros and cons of both. I've read that the hard top reduces noise and stuff, but does it make that much of a difference with anything really?

I also thought about going with the soft top and getting a hard top later, but looking at prices online, the hard top is like 2000 to buy, but going with it when I buy the Jeep is only like 700. So I guess it'd be smartest to go with it now if that's what I end up choosing?

I've had a soft top on last years jeep and now I have hard top. I never wanted a hard top because it's harder to be completely topless and that's the reason I bought the jeep.

But now that I just bought one that has the hard top, and it's still cold and crappy in NY, I LOVE it. I'll run it next winter. Having said that, the soft top will be going on in a couple of weeks.

To be honest, the soft top (and I didn't have the new premium soft top, I had last years model) isn't bad as far as noise and climate. I mean, of course it isn't as quite, but it isn't bad per say. What the difference, to me at least with the hard top, is the windows and the wiper. Now I'll be able to actually see out of my back window all winter.
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The last the the OP posted was June 23rd...2011.

But...there are still a lot of people who struggle with the choice.

I went hardtop only, and got the softtop later (for a lot less money).

I love the (relative) security of the hardtop and the flexibility of the freedom panels. Plus it has a rear wiper and defrost.

I find the OEM soft tops very ugly when up (the Trektop's looks a lot better becaues they don't have frames/bows), however, the OEM softops are very flexible and the premium ones seem to be of a very high quality (quiet).
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