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Old 09-18-2011, 11:27 PM   #1
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Soft top ?s

Forgive me if this has been answered but is there anything speacial I need to do when washing the jeep with the soft top? Can if go thru a machine car wash?
I've also seen a few pics of other people jeeps with the windows on the soft top tinted,do you have to but new windows already darker or can you Tint the plastic somehow?

Only owned the jeep for a week now and these questions didn't come to mind when I bought it.
I was in too much of a hurry to drive it lol.

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The tinted soft top windows comes with the upgraded package that includes the power group. I'm not up on the exact details of various packages but know that not all of the jeeps come with tinted windows. My top came with tinted windows. I purchased it and included it with the closing costs of the package so that the financing reflected it in the application. I got it in a box about a week after the purchase and the windows were tinted. I don't even remember if they asked if I wanted them tinted but that is how it showed up. I've been very happy with both tops. The hard top is also with tinted windows. Rear doors are tinted, front doors by law have to be lighter to be able to see into the vehicle for obvious reasons.

I'm guessing that you have the sport?

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Old 09-19-2011, 12:46 AM   #3
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Yeah I have a 2009 sport x 2dr. So I'm guessing I can buy the tinted windows then.
Is there anything special I need to do when washing the soft top or just wash it like a normal car?
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I wash mine with either car washing soap like the stuff you get at parts stores or just standard dish washing liquid. It is four years old and still looking nice.
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Taking it through an automatic car wash will shorten the lifespan of the top and especially the windows. Wash and treat the top and windows with Bestop cleaner and protectant.
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Taking it through an automatic car wash will shorten the lifespan of the top and especially the windows. Wash and treat the top and windows with Bestop cleaner and protectant.
Someone must me getting commission on bestop items sold :-)
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i have to disagree with washing it with dish soap it will strip all your wax off .that soap is not made for car exteriors,it will work but dont recomend it. just buy carwash solution at any auto parts store and youll be fine ,and pick up yourself some microfiber towels .they wont scrath your paint
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We are talking soft top here. Dish soap works fine. I know a lot of jeepers who have been doing this over 10 years and the top looks great. If you like wax on it, sure, go ahead it probably won't hurt but washing is important to keep the crud from building up.
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I drive my 2010 JK thru a car wash twice a week.
No leaks and the top looks great. Especially the plastic windows. (no scratches at all)
My wife bought me an unlimited wash package for my b-day a year ago.
I get the wash, wax, triple coat protection, rain-x, and tire shine twice a week.
Newer car washes are pretty safe if you ask me.
Anyway thats my 2 cents
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Never seemed to be an issue going through a car wash
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I drive my 2010 JK thru a car wash twice a week.
No leaks and the top looks great. Especially the plastic windows. (no scratches at all)
My wife bought me an unlimited wash package for my b-day a year ago.
I get the wash, wax, triple coat protection, rain-x, and tire shine twice a week.
Newer car washes are pretty safe if you ask me.
Anyway thats my 2 cents
The age of the vehicle is the key here.... Fast forward 5-7 years...
All the chemicals in the car wash waxes and triple coat protection and rain-x will take their toll on your windows.... It's not the big scratches that are problematic, it's the micro scratches that make the window opaque with time that will kill ya. Treat your windows with some kindness and they'll last and look a lot better a lot longer. Bestop (the manufacturer) recommends mild soap and water and microfiber cloths for the best results.
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I drive my 2010 JK thru a car wash twice a week.
No leaks and the top looks great. Especially the plastic windows. (no scratches at all)
My wife bought me an unlimited wash package for my b-day a year ago.
I get the wash, wax, triple coat protection, rain-x, and tire shine twice a week.
Newer car washes are pretty safe if you ask me.
Anyway thats my 2 cents
In a couple of years your windows will have a fogged look to them that you won't be able to clean.
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Someone must me getting commission on bestop items sold :-)
I have also used Ragtop as well, but prefer the products made by the manufacturer of the top.
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the owners manual of my 08 says

Do not run a fabric top through an automatic car
wash. Window scratches and wax build up may
result. (pg 142)

There is a section dedicated to the soft top.. "Appearance Care for Fabric Top Models" starting on page 412 in my manual.

- Do not use harsh cleaners or bleaching agents on top
material, as damage may result.

- Do not allow any vinyl cleaner to run down and dry
on the paint, leaving a streak.

for the windows:

When washing, never use hot water or anything
stronger than a mild soap. Never use solvents such as
alcohol or harsh cleaning agents.

Always rinse thoroughly with cold water, then wipe
with a soft and slightly moist, clean cloth.

I have a hard top on mine, but took it off over the weekend (sunny and 75), I'm now looking at buying a soft top and was curious so I started reading the manual.

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It isn't good for soft-top windows to be subjected to the chemical in auto car washes for the reasons already stated. I'll add to the discussion regarding dish soap that doing so is good only if you want to strip all the wax from your finish and then re-wax it. When I clay-bar and re-wax one of my cars, the first thing I do is a good wash or tow with dish soap to strip it and provide a clean surface to polish and seal. The dish soap works exceedingly well on motorcycles too.
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The tinted soft top windows comes with the upgraded package that includes the power group. I'm not up on the exact details of various packages but know that not all of the jeeps come with tinted windows.
Tinted windows are a stand alone option, they dont' come with a package.

You can buy them new at the dealer for about $370.

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i have to disagree with washing it with dish soap it will strip all your wax off .that soap is not made for car exteriors,it will work but dont recomend it. just buy carwash solution at any auto parts store and youll be fine ,and pick up yourself some microfiber towels .they wont scrath your paint
+1 on car wash paint. Dish soap will also suck some of the additives out of the paint over time and damage it. No good.

I am not a fan of microfiber yet, but it may grow on me. I still like 100% cotton made in USA towels, but they are pricey. I think the last ones we bought cost us about $150 for all of them. If you go this route, make sure they are made in USA and not somewhere else. Apparently 100% cotton towels made overseas aren't really 100% cotton.
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Hogwash on the idea that dish soap somehow harms the finish. I've been using it since I've been driving over 30 years. I keep my vehicles on average 8 years. I haven't damaged one vehicle's paint yet doing this prior to applying a new finish. Sucking something out of the finish sounds like conspiracy theory to me.
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Hogwash on the idea that dish soap somehow harms the finish.
I've never seen it occur, but using dish soap all the time without re-waxing afterward can theoretically advance the normal oxidation process, probably more so to those who don't re-wax or otherwise ignore the finish. In a previous job, I heard chemical engineers say that it might cause the polymers in the clear coat to break down faster, but again I've never seen evidence of it. It's possibly something in which you don't see the effects for 20yrs. I don't use dish soap except when I want to strip the finish down.
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I've never seen it occur, but using dish soap all the time without re-waxing afterward can theoretically advance the normal oxidation process, probably more so to those who don't re-wax or otherwise ignore the finish. In a previous job, I heard chemical engineers say that it might cause the polymers in the clear coat to break down faster, but again I've never seen evidence of it. It's possibly something in which you don't see the effects for 20yrs. I don't use dish soap except when I want to strip the finish down.
This makes sense. I always try to keep a coat of some kind of protectant on the finish. I was aware that regular dish-washing soap will remove it. So, ya gotta put something back on.
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Hogwash on the idea that dish soap somehow harms the finish. I've been using it since I've been driving over 30 years. I keep my vehicles on average 8 years. I haven't damaged one vehicle's paint yet doing this prior to applying a new finish. Sucking something out of the finish sounds like conspiracy theory to me.
Google and read. Just because it's worked for you for 30 years doesn't make it good for your paint.
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I think you are failing to understand a long standing practice. When or if paint starts falling off of my vehicles and/or I start reading examples of people using dish washing soap to wash cars and the paint falls off, I'll stop doing it as a practice. If really bad things were happening people would be telegraphing it en mass.

Now if you have a collectors item like a vehicle that worth over 100,000 dollars, and you didn't want to wash with dish washing soap, I guess I could understand that....maybe. I don't collect cars....I drive um. I like them to look nice. I have gotten excellent results over many years using just simple dish washing liquid. I encourage others to use it as well and you will probably get similar results. I also encourage you to use finish protectant, synthetic or wax, after washing it. I wouldn't leave the finish bare.

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