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Old 05-31-2012, 07:18 AM   #31
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We all have an issue at some point with the soft top and can later joke with one another about it. I never had an issue with the windows, mine was probably worse. I couldn't for the life of me figure out the "W" fold. I couldn't understand why the top wouldn't slide back over the rollbar.
Apparently I was using the "M" fold method. Finally after reading the instructions and watching the videos, the difference between an "M" and a "W" hit me.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:01 AM   #32
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My Tip:

When installing or closing the soft top, make sure you have the rear window unzipped and the lower window arm/bar (which the rear door is holding in place) open and loose.. pull the top forward making sure the top is securely attached on both sides (window channels out) before hooking the latches.. This means walking back and forth from side to side before you actually lock the top in place..

This is the second post I've responded to that has had this same type of soft top issues.. so I guess this weekend I'll do a write up on it.

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Old 05-31-2012, 11:32 AM   #33
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Just noticed this thread. I, too, went through the same process yesterday and today.

I got the top installed and took it for a shakedown ride. On the way home, I flipped up the front part of the Sunrider top. When I got home, and tried to close it, I noticed that I hadn't clipped in the driver side quick release for the Sunrider. This morning, while disassembling to get enough slack to click in the top, I figured out how the edges tuck in. All nice and neat now.

Sitting the Jeep in full sun REALLY helps with all the stretching. My fingers are sore from all of the fitting/unfitting over the last two days.
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One key point or area I've found really needs to be addressed.. is the plastic channels attached tot he top which go into and above the door.. these are very hard to remove.. yet on each side right at the top back of the door is where on can grab the small plastic channel and pull away.. takes a bit of getting use to.. and I'd like some ideas on how this are can better be prepared for removal.

As stated, I'll work up a blog soon and point our some of these key areas.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:41 PM   #35
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Top Tips

A couple more tips for installing Sunrider when you have the dual top combo:

1. Rear window - there are also hard plastic tabs attached to the cloth material, on both sides of the bottom of the window. These get tucked into the hold-down channel, same as the bottom edge of the Sunrider top. Just did mine after removing back seat. Nice and snug now.

2. On my JK (not JKU), there are 6, 40 Torx bolts holding the hard top to the tub. After removing them, I sat them in the plastic bolt holder at back edge of cargo area. Not wanting to lose them before hardtop reinstallation, I screwed them back into the empty holes where the hard top normally attaches. Two notes:

a. There is a metal backing plate under the lip of the tub that the bolts screw into. If you don't put the bolts back in the tub edge, the retaining plates can come lose and get lost. One of my rear backers almost got away before I noticed the design.

b. On the JK, the window frame installed to support the Sunrider roof sits directly on the edge of where the front two Torx bolts need to go. If you install the front two torx bolts before installing the plastic window frame, the frame may not seat properly. I tried to put those two bolts back into their holes with the window frame installed, and the thread didn't align due to bottom edge of window bracket being too close to the hole. Those two bolts will go into a baggy, or get taped into the rear bolt holder tray.

Lots of words for some very minor items.
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Hat-Attack you're helping already and I can be 1 of10 that you've helped so far. By your asking I was able to find the answers to the very same question/issues I was having. Driving along the highway last night watching my soft top balloon in the wind, my side windows sailing outward from the boddy, what a geek jeep I had turned my baby into. Thanks for the posts guys, and MTH and NJeepchick - Very Helpful and my ride today will be much more enjoyable. My idiot status has been rectified as well...
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Hat-Attack you're helping already and I can be 1 of10 that you've helped so far. By your asking I was able to find the answers to the very same question/issues I was having. Driving along the highway last night watching my soft top balloon in the wind, my side windows sailing outward from the boddy, what a geek jeep I had turned my baby into. Thanks for the posts guys, and MTH and NJeepchick - Very Helpful and my ride today will be much more enjoyable. My idiot status has been rectified as well...
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Thanks everyone for the help, I am like WTF, how hard can this be, but I could not figure it out, now I am happy, no more flapping side windows and having to pull over on the highway
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:49 PM   #39
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I've been doing it wrong for a year and half now! Glad I happen to see this thread. We'll see what happens when winter breaks!
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My side windows were installed wrong from the get go! Bought my 2008 JKUR last November. When I finally removed the soft top I noticed the original owner had double sided tape holding the front of the side widows in. Thought it was odd and was never able to get the side windows to stay in so I...shamefully...put a strip of velcro down the front of each side window to secure it to the surround.

Thankfully I ran across this Posthttp://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/how...ml#post3730949 which led me to this one! Top is all tucked in and the side windows are nice and tight now.
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NOW I get it - great post - only took me a couple of months installed incorrectly!
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Is there any real difference in putting up or taking down the premium soft top?

I got the premium as I have no plans for a hardtop and kept reading the premium was quieter at highway speeds, and offered a little more insulation. My dealer said it was a good choice for upgrade as it was also easier for one person to take down. But I haven't found any video specifically on the premium.
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Is there any real difference in putting up or taking down the premium soft top?

I got the premium as I have no plans for a hardtop and kept reading the premium was quieter at highway speeds, and offered a little more insulation. My dealer said it was a good choice for upgrade as it was also easier for one person to take down. But I haven't found any video specifically on the premium.
No differnce with either, they both go up/down the same and intall the same. Premium is just the soft top material that is upgraded. Good choice, the premium is very cloth like whereas the regular is very vinyl like.

This is a good thread to read for anyone who might have their soft top installed wrong. If your door is holding in your windows, you don't have it installled correctly.
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No differnce with either, they both go up/down the same and intall the same. Premium is just the soft top material that is upgraded. Good choice, the premium is very cloth like whereas the regular is very vinyl like.

This is a good thread to read for anyone who might have their soft top installed wrong. If your door is holding in your windows, you don't have it installled correctly.
Thanks and thanks for the confirment on the upgrade. I'm getting JK Sport and the only things I added were AC and premium soft top. I'll of course add some stuff (take-off wheels, audio). But it seemed like a good deal to get the premium soft top for $500 from the factory...

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Thanks and thanks for the confirment on the upgrade. I'm getting JK Sport and the only things I added were AC and premium soft top. I'll of course add some stuff (take-off wheels, audio). But it seemed like a good deal to get the premium soft top for $500 from the factory...

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The premium top is awesome. I was a hard top guy until I got a premium OEM top. It freaking rocks.
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Funny, I've had my Jeep about a week (bought it used). I noticed the window flapping a lot and could see the opening at the top front corner of the rear windows. I'd also felt a lot of wind inside on a 2 hour night drive with mid 30 temps. I pulled up to a light and another Jeep pulled up next to me and his windows were the same way. I did got the edges in like @NJeepChic 's picture in Post 18 of this thread and everything got better. No wind, no flapping panels, and quieter.
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Funny, I've had my Jeep about a week (bought it used). I noticed the window flapping a lot and could see the opening at the top front corner of the rear windows. I'd also felt a lot of wind inside on a 2 hour night drive with mid 30 temps. I pulled up to a light and another Jeep pulled up next to me and his windows were the same way. I did got the edges in like @NJeepChic 's picture in Post 18 of this thread and everything got better. No wind, no flapping panels, and quieter.

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The channel is there, you're just not seeing it.

Here's a write-up I did for another poster having the same problem. This is the answer, trust me. You've got to look harder:



If you still think there's no channel, then take some pictures of the black plastic door surround that sits under the flapping window portion and post it here. Make sure you get a picture looking back at the front edge of door surround, where it is adjacent to the closed door. You'll see a thin channel going up and down its center . . .
MTH, thanks so much for this. I got my Jeep Thursday and left the top off all weekend. Then today on the way to work I finally got up to highway speed and noticed flapping. I pulled over and tried to fix it but I couldn't figure it out. This made perfect sense and worked like a charm.

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