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Old 11-28-2011, 08:46 AM   #1
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Soliciting your opinion- lift height vs. tire size

I am now torn between the RC 2.5 lift and the AEV 2" lift. Both seem pretty solid but I am stuck on the tire question. I know both will accommodate 33" tires no problem, which is the biggest I would go for this Jeep and it's purposes. My plan is to run only 32" Rubi take-offs for the foreseeable future, and will likely never make the financial leap to dedicated 33's.

Now I ask for your unabashed opinions: Will it look silly with 2.5" of lift on 32's? Is the 2" a safer bet aesthetically? I am concerned as I already have the stiffer JKU coils and it sits relatively high now for stock. I am concerned that the look will be all wheel well and no wheels. From a performance standpoint, for the types of trails I do, I have no clearance issues, and am in this largely for a more impressive stance/appearance.

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Old 11-28-2011, 09:20 AM   #2
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I would say go with the 2" from AEV...

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Old 11-28-2011, 09:28 AM   #3
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Here's my Rubicon right after I threw in a Teraflex 2.5 inch lift. I know the wheels and the offset helped, but I didn't think it looked that bad.



I almost chickened out of the 35 fearing the 4.10 gearing would be horrible, but gave into desire and...



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Old 11-28-2011, 09:29 AM   #4
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so why do you want to lift if you plan to stick with stock 32s? You know that 33s will also clear a stock Jk as well (depending on how much flexing you will do).

You have to ask yourself, how much do you plan to spend on the lift, rubi take offs, and possibly wheel spacers (not sure if they are needed with either of those lifts?). You may be better off getting the tires/wheels you really want, then save up for the lift if you really think its needed or if you rub a little offroad. Just my opinion.
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:53 AM   #5
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Wheel spacers have nothing to do with a lift. He can lift it 3 feet and not need wheel spacers. He is talking about keeping stock tires and wheels. the only question is what all of the extra fender well space will look like. That's a subjective question that only the OP can answer for himself.
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:01 AM   #6
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correct about the look being subjective...

if OP wants to look at lifts other than what he listed above, like a Teraflex, yes he will need wheel spacers with stock wheels. That was my point of mentioning that even though I may not have been clear.
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:04 AM   #7
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I did the 2" on my Rubi and thought the stock 32's looked to small. I think it looks perfect with my 33's now.
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:32 AM   #8
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correct about the look being subjective...

if OP wants to look at lifts other than what he listed above, like a Teraflex, yes he will need wheel spacers with stock wheels. That was my point of mentioning that even though I may not have been clear.
Uh, no he won't. Wheel spacers have NOTHING to do with lift. If he were to put wider tires on the stock wheels, with or without a lift, THEN he would need wheel spacers.
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:21 AM   #9
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Uh, no he won't. Wheel spacers have NOTHING to do with lift. If he were to put wider tires on the stock wheels, with or without a lift, THEN he would need wheel spacers.

Actually, Teraflex recommends the use of spacers or wheels with at least 4.5" backspacing because with the new geometry and parts, the tires may rub on some of the suspension parts if not propperly backspaced.
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OP, out of the 2 you listed, go with AEV. I have seen the RC lifts sag after nominal use.

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Old 11-28-2011, 11:31 AM   #11
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Actually, Teraflex recommends the use of spacers or wheels with at least 4.5" backspacing because with the new geometry and parts, the tires may rub on some of the suspension parts if not propperly backspaced.

The reason they recommend that is because 99.999% of the people who install a lift do so for larger tires. Once more for clarity. Lift height has nothing to do with wheel spacers, tire width does.
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Wheel spacers have nothing to do with a lift. He can lift it 3 feet and not need wheel spacers. He is talking about keeping stock tires and wheels. the only question is what all of the extra fender well space will look like. That's a subjective question that only the OP can answer for himself.
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if OP wants to look at lifts other than what he listed above, like a Teraflex, yes he will need wheel spacers with stock wheels. That was my point of mentioning that even though I may not have been clear.
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Uh, no he won't. Wheel spacers have NOTHING to do with lift. If he were to put wider tires on the stock wheels, with or without a lift, THEN he would need wheel spacers.
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Actually, Teraflex recommends the use of spacers or wheels with at least 4.5" backspacing because with the new geometry and parts, the tires may rub on some of the suspension parts if not propperly backspaced.
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The reason they recommend that is because 99.999% of the people who install a lift do so for larger tires. Once more for clarity. Lift height has nothing to do with wheel spacers, tire width does.
In general Dag is correct that lift height is uncorrelated to the need for spacers. However, as to certain TeraFlex kits, Xnewyorka and Vin are right.

TeraFlex's 2.5" coil lift kit (and perhaps others) change the mounting position of the rear sway bar links. The result of the change is that they will rub the interior of the stock tire/wheels if you don't add spacers.

I can't imagine why they designed the kit that way, but they did. That's what Xnewyorka and Vin were referring to. Of course, the OP didn't ask about TeraFlex kits and I am not aware of any other kit that includes this quirky design.
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The use of adapters (spacers) is strictly up to the owner-

Their requirements are:

1)-Reduction of excessive back space (stock)-ie 6.25", (to eliminate rubbing)-

2)-Set the "wide stance" look to run tires outside fenders-

3) To match vertical tire/fender line, for overzelous new fenders that defy backspace correction ! (heh heh -mine)



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Thank you to all for your input, and daggo- you must feel like a modern day Sisyphus, thanks! From everyone's input I have now begun shopping around a bit for wheels to see what it would cost to just get 33's and be done with it and skip the Rubi take offs. While I have put in hours searching for info on lifts, I am at square one on budget friendly 15's or 16's, let alone tires, so if anyone wants to throw out a brand name or suggesion, I would love to dig into it.

Either way, I am now thinking with the better springs I was blessed with, the AEV would help keep my wheel well space looking passable, and while I have heard/read a mixed bag of reviews on the RC kit, nobody anywhere had one bad thing to say on AEV. I don't need a full 2.5 lift, and I am thinking keeping it lower will help keep me from flirting with problems I don't want to get involved in. Besides, the lower cost may help me to save up for some Bilsteins down the road.

Again, thanks to all for your opinions and ideas, it is helping me to think more openly and differently on the whole matter, which was my intent.

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