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Old 11-15-2011, 10:03 PM   #1
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spacers vs. a lift kit????

what are the pro and cons to each one? im new to jeeps but im lookin to lift it about 2inches. i dont do any rock crawling. i mostly just beat it up in the mud, ditches, and stuff like that.. anyone have advice ???

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Old 11-15-2011, 11:05 PM   #4
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Are you comparing wheel spacers to a lift kit? Those are two completely different things. Do you mean coil spacers vs. new coils? What size tires are you planning?
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im not familiar with any of this stuff. im planning maybe for like a 33 to 35 max.. im gonna keep my 17in jeep rims and get them painted. and whats the difference if i do coils? im not looking to spend much
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im not familiar with any of this stuff. im planning maybe for like a 33 to 35 max.. im gonna keep my 17in jeep rims and get them painted. and whats the difference if i do coils? im not looking to spend much
Don't want to spend much?
Be prepared.
You could go with a Budget boost (BB) for around $200.
If you are going to stay with the stock wheels you will need spacers with 33's better to get yourself some aftermarket wheels with the the proper backspace, considering the cost of spacers.

What is your budget?
What do you have on the jeep now?
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:43 AM   #7
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If you're just testing the waters to see how well you would like the look of your jeep lifted I'd say go with a 2inch spacer lift from AEV. It's a good quality complete lift that can be installed with minimul tools in a couple hours. It will only set you back about $250.

I went this route to start because I wasn't sure if I wanted to go 2, 2.5 or 3.5 inches of lift. At this point I don't see myself going with any tire taller than the 255/80/17 (about 33.5 tall) BFG KM2's so i'll probably stay with my current 2 inch AEV spacer lift. That is unless I get bored and the new 2.5 AEV suspension lift looks to good to pass up but at this point I'm happy with my spacer lift.

If you want to run 35's with no chance of rubbing you will most likely have to go higher than a 2 inch spacer lift. Other wise, I think a 2 inch spacer lift is the best bang for your buck.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:54 AM   #8
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No wheel spacers are needed with the 255/80/17's, which are slightly taller than just about all the 33's out there. They don't rub, even with no lift and stock height, because they are the same width as the factory tires.

Some people don't like the look of tall and skinny so if the "look" you are looking for is a wider 33in tall tire you won't want the 255/80/17's. On my 2dr Rubicon It's kinda an optical illusion because even though my new KM2's are the same width as my factory tires they look a little narrower than my factory tires because they are taller.
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:23 PM   #9
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I had a spacer lift on my 2009 JK.
Pros - cheap and is taller
Cons - roughest ride I have ever been in
I can honestly say I will never get a spacer lift again. You get what you pay for with them which is a cheap lift. I couldn't hit the slightest bumps in the road because my Jeep was so bad. I am currently saving for a DualSport Suspension lift from AEV and I will never look back.
Nothing against the company, just a cheap lift.
Save your money and get a real lift. If I could go back I would have done it right from the start.
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The "spacer' lift had nothing to do with the way your jeep handled--


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I had a spacer lift on my 2009 JK.
Pros - cheap and is taller
Cons - roughest ride I have ever been in
I can honestly say I will never get a spacer lift again. You get what you pay for with them which is a cheap lift. I couldn't hit the slightest bumps in the road because my Jeep was so bad. I am currently saving for a DualSport Suspension lift from AEV and I will never look back.
Nothing against the company, just a cheap lift.
Save your money and get a real lift. If I could go back I would have done it right from the start.
You have/had lousy shocks/weak coil springs and you are the one responsible for the ride--not the "spacers"

Very expensive "progressive" coil springs can promote a great ride--WITH APPROPRIATE SHOCKS, not jeep issue shocks !

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I had a spacer lift on my 2009 JK.
Pros - cheap and is taller
Cons - roughest ride I have ever been in
I can honestly say I will never get a spacer lift again. You get what you pay for with them which is a cheap lift. I couldn't hit the slightest bumps in the road because my Jeep was so bad. I am currently saving for a DualSport Suspension lift from AEV and I will never look back.
Nothing against the company, just a cheap lift.
Save your money and get a real lift. If I could go back I would have done it right from the start.

Beat me toit

Did the kit come with good shocks?

Spacers themselves should not cause a rough ride

A good kit along with better shocks improved the ride quality of my Tj.
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I've been debating the same thing. I want the AEV 2" spacer lift since I'm only going with 33" tires, but am thinking about upgrading the stock shocks to some bilstein HD shocks. Maybe find some 19/60 springs since mine are 17/58 but that's not a necessity.

Im going to hold out and see what the AEV full 2" kit ends up being.
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I've been debating the same thing. I want the AEV 2" spacer lift since I'm only going with 33" tires, but am thinking about upgrading the stock shocks to some bilstein HD shocks. Maybe find some 19/60 springs since mine are 17/58 but that's not a necessity.

Im going to hold out and see what the AEV full 2" kit ends up being.
How bout some 22's

Bilsteins I read are the best along with ranch 9000's (adjustable)
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Beat me toit

Did the kit come with good shocks?

Spacers themselves should not cause a rough ride

A good kit along with better shocks improved the ride quality of my Tj.
The kit came with shock adapters which worked pretty lousy. Never again, better shocks may have worked but I didn't want to bother with having just a spacer lift anyways. Time for the BIG DOGS
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I'm sure you must remember that I have the RC 2˝" "spacer' lift, with RS9000XL (adj) shocks and Rubi 19/60 coils and Rusty's adj LCAs-


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How bout some 22's

Bilsteins I read are the best along with ranch 9000's (adjustable)
You remember that, right ??

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The "spacer' lift had nothing to do with the way your jeep handled--




You have/had lousy shocks/weak coil springs and you are the one responsible for the ride--not the "spacers"

Very expensive "progressive" coil springs can promote a great ride--WITH APPROPRIATE SHOCKS, not jeep issue shocks !

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Well forgive me for being a little naive at the time of the purchase/install but I still stand by my statement. We learn from our mistakes and I for one know that these parts aren't the best which is why I'm upgrading. No need to act like I'm not aware of the problem.
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Good for you, stick by your guns, no matter what anyone else says-


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Well forgive me for being a little naive at the time of the purchase/install but I still stand by my statement. We learn from our mistakes and I for one know that these parts aren't the best which is why I'm upgrading. No need to act like I'm not aware of the problem.
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I'm sure you must remember that I have the RC 2˝" "spacer' lift, with RS9000XL (adj) shocks and Rubi 19/60 coils and Rusty's adj LCAs-

You remember that, right ??

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Yes I did.

Almost pointed that out, but figured you would chime in.
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How bout some 22's

Bilsteins I read are the best along with ranch 9000's (adjustable)
I'm sure you knew I didn't say it right and meant 33" rims!

Ive really liked the bilsteins on my challenger and have read great reviews on the JK. They make a good product.

Jimbo why did you go with new LCAs? What did you feel the advantage to doing that was with such a "mild" lift?
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I'm sure you knew I didn't say it right and meant 33" rims!

Ive really liked the bilsteins on my challenger and have read great reviews on the JK. They make a good product.

Jimbo why did you go with new LCAs? What did you feel the advantage to doing that was with such a "mild" lift?
Cuz da stockers are crap


I knew what you were talking about, don't worry
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Well, even though every jeep comes off the production line "within specs", mine was on the -caster edge and--any lift induces MORE -caster, so


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I'm sure you knew I didn't say it right and meant 33" rims!

Ive really liked the bilsteins on my challenger and have read great reviews on the JK. They make a good product.

Jimbo why did you go with new LCAs? What did you feel the advantage to doing that was with such a "mild" lift?
After the lift there was a little hunting on the freeway,and my front axle was in the +4° caster--well

When you lift a solid axle vehicle (most), you'll need all the +caster you can get, especially with big tires, so

I put on Rusty's adj LCAs and set them for about +6° caster and than kept the pinion angle well within the safe range--

It made all the difference in handling/steering/tracking and especially long turns---it now tracks great--

The cost was only about $290 bucks and it made a world of difference-

Like I said earlier, with the JKU and with a lift under 3", you shoukd shoot for 23" between the LCA bolt ctr's and this runs close to +6° caster

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Well, even though every jeep comes off the production line "within specs", mine was on the -caster edge and--any lift induces MORE -caster, so




After the lift there was a little hunting on the freeway,and my front axle was in the +4° caster--well

When you lift a solid axle vehicle (most), you'll need all the +caster you can get, especially with big tires, so

I put on Rusty's adj LCAs and set them for about +6° caster and than kept the pinion angle well within the safe range--

It made all the difference in handling/steering/tracking and especially long turns---it now tracks great--

The cost was only about $290 bucks and it made a world of difference-

Like I said earlier, with the JKU and with a lift under 3", you shoukd shoot for 23" between the LCA bolt ctr's and this runs close to +6° caster

Can'tbeatem

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Thanks for the info. I'll need to do some more learning before I do my lift. Appreciate the knowledge here!
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what do u guys think about the rubicon express lift??? the monotube shocks??? like i said idk the difference between any of these lifts.
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what are the pro and cons to each one? im new to jeeps but im lookin to lift it about 2inches. i dont do any rock crawling. i mostly just beat it up in the mud, ditches, and stuff like that.. anyone have advice ???
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what do u guys think about the rubicon express lift??? the monotube shocks??? like i said idk the difference between any of these lifts.
Personally, I wouldn't lift or otherwise do anything other than cosmetic modifications (of which there are many options to keep you plenty busy . . .) until you have at least a basic grasp of what lifts do, how they impact your suspension, basic rules of thumb as to various sizes, some brand differentiation, etc.

As with any significant modification, there are pros and cons of every conceivable set up and every change will have consequences. There's really no reason, IMO, to make changes like that without have at least a basic idea of what is going on. It's a surefire method to at least want to change it again eventually once you "know better" and have honed in on your specific wants/needs, or worse yet screw something up and cost yourself more money than you had intended to spend.

Sign up for the Quadratec catalog, read lots of stuff here and engage in the discussions, meet up with some local jeepers and wheel your jeep a little, educate yourself, and then start thinking about lifts or whatever else.

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ya thats probably what ill do.. i think when i put bigger tires on it itll give it the rugged look im looking for.
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Hi guys I have a 2012 Rubicon 2door. It has 255/75 17" tires. I'm wanting it to look a bit higher and wider. Would wheel spacers be good enough for now to make it look more aggressive? I just don't want to spend a lot of money on stuff and then hate the way it looks. Also want to get a new front AEV bumper. Any thoughts or suggestions would be helpful. Jon
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Hi guys I have a 2012 Rubicon 2door. It has 255/75 17" tires. I'm wanting it to look a bit higher and wider. Would wheel spacers be good enough for now to make it look more aggressive? I just don't want to spend a lot of money on stuff and then hate the way it looks. Also want to get a new front AEV bumper. Any thoughts or suggestions would be helpful. Jon
Yea I don't have spacers but considered getting them for the look. I think spacers look sick widening the axle but it might be a better option to get new wheels (what I did). Just look into the options.
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Yea I don't have spacers but considered getting them for the look. I think spacers look sick widening the axle but it might be a better option to get new wheels (what I did). Just look into the options.
Do you have a pic of your Jeep? What's the best or biggest tire size possible without having to do a lift?
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A proper lift will you you about $4,800.

That's about a 2.5" lift, shocks for the lift, a cheap set of 16x8 wheels, tires for the wheels, a cheap (ACE) rear bumper with new carrier to support the weight of the new wheel/tire combo on the spare, a front bumper so you don't look tacky with just on steel bumper, and a winch to fill in the winch hole on the front bumper.

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I'm also trying to figure out if I want to put 2" spacers or a 2"-4" lift kit on my 05 2dr Sport. I have 33x12.5 - 15R right now. Any suggestions?

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