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Old 08-04-2011, 08:12 PM   #1
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Spare in rotation

If you have just purchased a 2011 JEEP how would you rotate the spare tire?

Would you include the spare tire into the rotation if you planed on keeping the tire sizes the same after orig.tires need replaced?

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Old 08-04-2011, 08:19 PM   #2
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Such a can of worms... Oh well.

I have 33's including the spare. I rotate spare to back left, back left to front right, to back right, to front left to spare. One doesn't cost more than the other since you get more miles out of the set.

It helps so your tires always match if you have slight OCD like me. And if you ever have to use the spare your alignment will stay true.

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Old 08-04-2011, 08:23 PM   #3
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I rotate to keep all tires approximately the same.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:02 PM   #4
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Never rotate my spare. Whenever I change tires I get rid of a perfectly good tire.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:09 PM   #5
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I rotate all five. With 46k on the '07 JKU there is still about 5k-6k tread left on the factory tires.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:15 PM   #6
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I put my spare into the rotation.


Regardless of how you do it, keep this in mind.

From page 434 of the owners manual:
Tires and the spare tire should be replaced after six
years, regardless of the remaining tread. Failure to
follow this warning can result in sudden tire failure.
You could lose control and have a collision resulting
in serious injury or death.
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:56 AM   #7
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Put the spare in, you paid for it. This way when they all wear out you can get the next size up and not feel like you lost 1/5 of your investment.
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Old 08-05-2011, 06:10 AM   #8
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I'll rotate the spare at the first 1000 miles to get rid of the new tire paint markings.
Then it's every other oil change for a full rotation.
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:10 AM   #9
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Every 5000km for me. Rears straight to the front, front left to spare, front right to rear left and spare to rear right.

We have a lot of roundabouts here and the missus drives round em too quick...
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:22 PM   #10
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I have been rotating all five every 6000, when the original Goodrich Mud Terrains need replacing, I'll just buy four and rotate through just those four. 45,000 so far and probably will make it to 60K on the original tires. Might switch to Goodyear MRT w/kevlar in orginal size for better wet traction on pavement.
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Put the spare in, you paid for it. This way when they all wear out you can get the next size up and not feel like you lost 1/5 of your investment.
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Hey-good point

I bought my 07 with 35,000. Looks like the PO rotated all 5.

Is there only one way to do a 5 tire rotation, so I can keep it going correctly?
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Old 08-05-2011, 02:28 PM   #12
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There are several ways. Do a google image search for 5 tire rotation. Pick the all wheel drive or 4wd one. Save that image use that each time. It's not so much a matter of which one is correct. The important thing is that you follow the same one each time.
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Old 08-05-2011, 02:46 PM   #13
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I never thought to do this, might have to now!
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:53 PM   #14
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I never thought to do this, might have to now!
It's a real time saver too, since you only have to jack up one tire at a time.
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It's a real time saver too, since you only have to jack up one tire at a time.
This is not quite true. You can use your spare to do the 4-tyre rotation too.

Also, there is no cost advantage long term, especially if you go through several sets. Although the tires last 25% longer, they also cost 25% more.

I only do the 5-tyre rotation in order to have the same size tyre in event of a replacement. And I can stop doing that any time I want.
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Old 08-05-2011, 05:50 PM   #16
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I was dead set against a 5 tire rotation from day 1. However after reading many post on the subject here I decided to do it. To me its a wash,about 20% more tire ware but 20% more tire cost when new set needs to be purchased.However all tires match and if you want to change size you are not losing a new tire.JMHO
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Those downsides only apply if you are replacing with the exact same tire. I usually have two or three tires in mind, then get the one that can I get the one I can get the best deal on.
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Those downsides only apply if you are replacing with the exact same tire. I usually have two or three tires in mind, then get the one that can I get the one I can get the best deal on.
What?.........
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This is what happens when I read and reply to forums on my phone. Disregard my last post.
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The 5 tyre cross rotation I described above was one I found on a tyre places website many years ago. Main reason I do a 5 tyre rotation is I am most likely not going to use the same tyres next time so will be replacing all 5 to keep them the same. If I have a blowout I dont want to be one of the idiots driving around with 3 x 33in mud tyres and one 31in AT, and then not having the option of doing a 5 tyre rotation.

In addition, tyres are made of rubber and have a limited lifespan. If I am paying for it I want to use it - not throw it away in 10 years times with no wear on it. The British rubber manufacturers association recommend (note this is a recommendation only , there is not currently any law that I am aware of) that tyres over 6 years old should not be put into service and tyres in service over ten years old should be pulled from service regardless of wear.

So if I go through 2 sets of tyres in 10 years and dont rotate the spare in, I am literally throwing away an unused tyre.
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The 5 tyre cross rotation I described above was one I found on a tyre places website many years ago. Main reason I do a 5 tyre rotation is I am most likely not going to use the same tyres next time so will be replacing all 5 to keep them the same. If I have a blowout I dont want to be one of the idiots driving around with 3 x 33in mud tyres and one 31in AT, and then not having the option of doing a 5 tyre rotation.

In addition, tyres are made of rubber and have a limited lifespan. If I am paying for it I want to use it - not throw it away in 10 years times with no wear on it. The British rubber manufacturers association recommend (note this is a recommendation only , there is not currently any law that I am aware of) that tyres over 6 years old should not be put into service and tyres in service over ten years old should be pulled from service regardless of wear.

So if I go through 2 sets of tyres in 10 years and dont rotate the spare in, I am literally throwing away an unused tyre.
Agreed 100% Rotate the 5,get alittle more wear,than buy 5 of same when replacing.WASH!!!!
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I put my spare into the rotation.

Regardless of how you do it, keep this in mind.

From page 434 of the owners manual:
Tires and the spare tire should be replaced after six
years, regardless of the remaining tread. Failure to
follow this warning can result in sudden tire failure.
You could lose control and have a collision resulting
in serious injury or death.
Perfect! I should be buying new ones with two months to spare.

Will be changing size and brand so won't be stuck with an odd spare.
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I was dead set against a 5 tire rotation from day 1. However after reading many post on the subject here I decided to do it. To me its a wash,about 20% more tire ware but 20% more tire cost when new set needs to be purchased.However all tires match and if you want to change size you are not losing a new tire.JMHO
Actually, it's 25% more mileage out of a set of 5 tires instead of 4 tires, not 20% more.

25% is a HUGE improvement in the life of your tires. I definitely recommend doing a 5-tire rotation. I rotate at about every 5 - 6000 miles. Keeps all 5 tires the same diameter.

I use this 5-tire rotation pattern:

spare to RR
RR to RF
RF to LR
LR to LF
LF to spare

You can actually use many different rotation patterns, but it is important that you use the same one every time, for the life of the tires.

The pattern I use, seems to be the most popular pattern for rear or four wheel drive vehicles.

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I'm going to do a 5 tire rotation if my Jeep ever gets here.

Like was already said, which pattern you use isn't as important as using the same one every time. The only additional information I would throw in is that the drive wheels rotate the same way after the rotation that they did before, and the coast wheels should turn the opposite direction. For a primarily RWD vehicle that means move the rears straight forward adn cross the fronts when you move them to the rear. Putting the spare in the mix will require a little thought, but you should be able to still make that work.
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I was getting ready to rotate my tires ( new 33's ) city driving about 3000 miles. All wearing pretty even. I stopped my dealer from rotating just 4. I will be doing the 5 tires on my own. My Jeep service center would not do the 5 tire for me, he said the spare had too much tread ... I checked myself and it is only about 1/32-2/32 differernce. How would the spare not have more tread since its brand new, I asked them. no response..
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Our 2012 owner's manual says (on page 448) something about the spare tire being for temp, emergency use only. It goes on to say that the spare only looks the same as the other four, but that it is not and it will have only limited tread life.

What are your thoughts on that?
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Our 2012 owner's manual says (on page 448) something about the spare tire being for temp, emergency use only. It goes on to say that the spare only looks the same as the other four, but that it is not and it will have only limited tread life.

What are your thoughts on that?
Hmmm......I just went out and checked my spare and it is the same tire as the other four. I don't think they put what is referred to as "donuts" on the back of Wranglers....or at least I've never had a donut tire on any of the 3 Wranglers I've owned. But out of curiosity, I'm going to check my owners manual to see what you are talking about here b/c if the spare is a "limited use" tire that is "only" to be used for emergencies - that would be news to me.
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Hmmm......I just went out and checked my spare and it is the same tire as the other four. I don't think they put what is referred to as "donuts" on the back of Wranglers....or at least I've never had a donut tire on any of the 3 Wranglers I've owned. But out of curiosity, I'm going to check my owners manual to see what you are talking about here b/c if the spare is a "limited use" tire that is "only" to be used for emergencies - that would be news to me.
This is exactly what we think! The spare seems to be exactly the same as the others..... still that warning in the manual is enough to raise a doubt in my mind.
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Wranglers are not equipped with temporary spares.

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