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Old 02-22-2012, 06:32 PM   #1
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Speaker Experts inside please!~Install mainly

Backstory, installed new Polks in dash this week, one didn't seat properly due to the shitty OEM pod plastic being warped.

Okay, so today I took Jeep out for a spin (To Work...) and finally listened to music with some bass. OMG it sounded horrible, and it was that one speaker. Very distorted, and even more so when bass hit.

The warped piece didn't mount the speaker flushly, could this make the sound that horrible? Any possible fixes?

Anyone want to send me theirs if they aren't using anymore? ha!

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Backstory, installed new Polks in dash this week, one didn't seat properly due to the shitty OEM pod plastic being warped.

Okay, so today I took Jeep out for a spin (To Work...) and finally listened to music with some bass. OMG it sounded horrible, and it was that one speaker. Very distorted, and even more so when bass hit.

The warped piece didn't mount the speaker flushly, could this make the sound that horrible? Any possible fixes?

Anyone want to send me theirs if they aren't using anymore? ha!
There was no baffle in the Tj. I used a thick
couch cushion foam and lined the speaker. Sounded great for what it was

Have any pics ?

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Old 02-22-2012, 07:44 PM   #3
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There was no baffle in the Tj. I used a thick
couch cushion foam and lined the speaker. Sounded great for what it was

Have any pics ?
No, unfortunately no picture, I won't pull this apart until this weekend again.

I ordered the XTC Baffles, I hope they are rubbery/foamy enough to fill that gap between speaker frame, and plastic speaker pod. Ugh, they sound bad now that it is actually turned up.
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Distorted or rattle ? a rattle could be possible if speaker isn't fully secured but if its distorted I'd check your +/- that you don't have them crossed
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Distorted or rattle ? a rattle could be possible if speaker isn't fully secured but if its distorted I'd check your +/- that you don't have them crossed
I used the harness, could it possibly be backwards? Now that I think about it, I didn't even check to see if they were right or left harnesses, or if that even matters.

I am pretty much sure the speaker is fine, it is just putting out such a bad sound, and it's overwhelming. I remember thinking, when reinstalling it, wondering if I should do something about the gap in btwn speaker and pod. Guess I should, lol.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:23 PM   #6
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Did your speakers come pre-wired with a harness from speaker for plug n play into your stock harness from head unit? There should be 2 metal clips on your speaker and one is + and the other is - and even though you plug into the harness if those to wires are crossed on the speaker end it would cause the bass to be distorted also your highs would sound a bit "tini" sounding like taping your finger nail on a tin can kinda sound! it would be easy to check by unplugging the wires and switch them and see if sound is better!
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Did your speakers come pre-wired with a harness from speaker for plug n play into your stock harness from head unit? There should be 2 metal clips on your speaker and one is + and the other is - and even though you plug into the harness if those to wires are crossed on the speaker end it would cause the bass to be distorted also your highs would sound a bit "tini" sounding like taping your finger nail on a tin can kinda sound! it would be easy to check by unplugging the wires and switch them and see if sound is better!
Thanks for replying Bengen.

Know they were the Chrysler Harnesses from best buy, that have the 2 wires in a bracket already together, just plugged into the Jeeps existing wire harness.

I did not check to see if the Aftermarket harnesses were market driver passenger. I doubt it, but never know I guess.
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oh crap wait a sec...the fronts are components so never mind about the highs
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oh crap wait a sec...the fronts are components so never mind about the highs
Well, mine are 2 way's, so I do have highs coming from them.

The speaker actually sounds fine, until you get a hint of bass, then its this horrible reverb sound. I had about a 3/8's inch gap in the speaker frame to the pod, I think this could be my problem. I ordered those XTC baffles, hope they can seal it better. I hope that's the issue too, ha.

Edit: And I can hear squeaking on the bass hit. So I am thinking that is the metal frame to plastic hitting
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hmmm ok well I have always bypassed the factory harnesses when I upgrade, I don't plan on replacing speakers until this spring and then headunit when free sat. is up. So right now Im just going by memory of previous installs so sorry I can't apply specific details on the jeep setup just yet!
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I guess air trying to vent in the same direction the speaker is trying to emit sound from is not good, LoL!
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I have also seen that all the speakers Ive been looking at you need to add speaker brackets to fronts and bar...did you get brackets too or did the polks not need them? and I will be getting baffles as well for both!
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:45 PM   #13
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ahh k just seen your post on the polks you installed...on crutchfield they do recommend a bracket for the polks you have so that could be your issue if you haven't got them.
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They came with brackets, and I used them. It is actually the bracket now that you mention, that didn't seal to the speaker pod. I had 3 foam gaskets, and used 2 on the speaker that sounds fine, and 1, on the speaker that sounds bad, between speaker and bracket, should have used it on pod.... That actually has to be it now that I am looking back. It needs a gasket... Here is a picture of the pod in case you were wondering.

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On my pod, the plastic actually looks warped from too much heat or something, probably a defect.
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ahhh ok now I get it...pics do wonders..ha... now i'm really wanting spring to get here so I can tear into things more! hope you get it all figured out soon n enjoy em
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You will love it over the stockers. My only test that day was low volume from the carport...
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I also had the same problem. I replaced the stock speakers in the fronts pod with polk component speakers. After a while I noticed that the bass sounded distorted. I removed the speaker and noticed that the bracket wasn't flush with the pods just like you described only mine wasn't a 3/8' gap. I went to Home Depot and bought a tube of clear sealant. I removed the speaker and filled the pod with poly-fil. Then I reinstalled the speaker and used to sealant to seal the gap between the bracket and pod. Oh. My. God. SO much better. Like 1000000x better. Now not only do my speakers sound better, the bass is also crisp and clear.
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I also had the same problem. I replaced the stock speakers in the fronts pod with polk component speakers. After a while I noticed that the bass sounded distorted. I removed the speaker and noticed that the bracket wasn't flush with the pods just like you described only mine wasn't a 3/8' gap. I went to Home Depot and bought a tube of clear sealant. I removed the speaker and filled the pod with poly-fil. Then I reinstalled the speaker and used to sealant to seal the gap between the bracket and pod. Oh. My. God. SO much better. Like 1000000x better. Now not only do my speakers sound better, the bass is also crisp and clear.
Ahhhh, this is good to hear then! I figured that gap would have something to do with it. Will have to correct that asap!
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XTC foam baffle pods completely cured the dash pod problem. On another note, it actually sounds better than the drivers side, which I didn't install due to time, and was only trying to fix the problem. I completely cut out the bottom half of it.
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I installed Hertz seperates this weekend and I used Polyfill, Dynamat, and silicone sealant to seal up the front boxes.

A good tip is to hook the boxes up first before you reinstall them to make sure there are no air leaks.
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Yep, I just didn't test on road, at higher volume, I assumed low volume would be fine so I reinstalled. I prefer the foam for inbetween gaps, gets too hot in florida for silicone

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