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Old 03-19-2012, 09:03 AM   #1
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Speakers for Sound Bar 2012

Hi all

Yes I know this has been talked about alot

Best Speakers for the Soundbar?
Keeping hte existing stereo.. I have the Infinity system and think the sound bar speakers suck@!

Any suggestions


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PS any speakers come as Plug and Play??

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Old 03-19-2012, 09:08 AM   #2
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I put 6.5 JL speakers in mine and just got wiring harnesses from crutchfield.

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Old 03-19-2012, 09:12 AM   #3
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The Kicker 77kick10 is plug and play.

That being said, I believe the headunit doesn't deliver as much power to the soundbar as it does the front speakers. So you might not see as dramatic a difference by upgrading them without upgrading the headunit as well.

You should also look into adding some polyfill to the soundbar.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:22 AM   #5
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I replaced all four speakers and added an enclosed sub, keeping the head unit but adding a new amp to power the speakers and a dedicated amp for the sub. My jeep now thumps. I also placed dense sound matting around the dash speakers and sound bar. I place Addictive Audio components in front, Addictive Audio coaxials in this sports bar and an Addictive Audio 12" bass in the custom enclosure all wired with upgraded speaker cables.
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Judo fish - do you find you have to tweak your settings anytime you change inputs (sat/ iPod/fm) or genre (rock/country/pop)?

I did a similar change, but really have to play with all the settings to get different things to sound right. I also have too much sound coming from my sound bar now and not enough up front...

Seriously considering replacing the head unit now...
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:39 AM   #7
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I installed Infinity Kappa 63.9i's in my sound bar and it made a pretty drastic difference. The Kappa's re 2ohm and pretty efficient (95dB). It would certainly be better if the amp was pushing the same amount of watts to the rears as the fronts, but they are hands down better then the Infinity's that were already there.
 
They did take some tweaking to install.
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Skinnyfats: I don't have any sound issues. My sound settings: 0 bass, 0 mid & 2 treble. I did toy with the settings until I came up with my preferred settings.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:10 AM   #9
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Thanks for all the replies
I did the Polyfill thing..
Still sounds like MUD!!!
I do not what to change out the head using cause i do not want to lose the Uconnect and steering wheel..
I have no problem with the Amp and Speaker switch....
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Thanks for the reply Judo. I dug around a little and discovered the cable to my front dash speakers wasn't full seated properly to the amp. It all sounds PERFECT with the factory head unit now! Loud and crisp thumps all across the board with "set it and forget it" settings
I'm using American Base speakers and amps btw.
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I installed Infinity Kappa 63.9i's in my sound bar and it made a pretty drastic difference. The Kappa's re 2ohm and pretty efficient (95dB). It would certainly be better if the amp was pushing the same amount of watts to the rears as the fronts, but they are hands down better then the Infinity's that were already there.
 
They did take some tweaking to install.
Could you please explain tweaking?
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:31 PM   #12
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So i made an appointment with a car audio shop for tomorrow.
they will be installing
4 infinity reference 6032 6.5 speakers (2 in the sound bar and 2 in the dash)
they will also install 1031 tweeters in place of the factory tweeters.
they will leave the infinity amp and head unit as is.
they say it will make a major improvement
all costing 400 installed with tax.

any thoughts?
Will let everyone know how it sounds


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Old 03-19-2012, 10:00 PM   #13
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I just put the Polk audio in mine plus polifill invade sound bar and sub box. Major difference I have to balance 2 bars to the front and get great balanced sound. I have a 2012 jku with the infinity 7 speaker setup. Spent 100 and installed myself. No probs.
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HI guys, im sure many of you have had this same issue, I have a 2010 jk, and i just bought and had professionally installed 4 Alpine SPE-6000 speakers, and a double din jvc touch screen deck CLICK HERE FOR DECK..do i also need an amp? the front speakers sound good, but the sound bar speakers rattle SOOO much, even with the slighest amount of bass. Im sure they arent toast because ive had them in for less than 24 hours and they sounded that way when i got my vehicle back...will poly-fill fix this issue? and it seems fairly straight forward but are there any video tutorials? thanks guys!
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Could you please explain tweaking?
The 639i's come with a couple of brackets, one of which can be used in the stock soundbar position. The issue is, at least in my case, is that the adapter is about 1/4 inch thick, plus coupled with how far the tweeters stick out it made using the stock grills near impossible. I could have thrown some 3/8-1/2 inch spacers between the speakers and the grills, but they would have hung well below the stock position and would not have looked stock at all.
 
So I used the included infinity covers. However the ring that is used to hang those from the speakers required me to drill a couple of holes for the attachment screws to sit. I did not take any pics during the install.
 
The included speaker grill look nice and you cannot see them from outside, so I wasn't too concerned about retaining the stock look.
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So just had the 6032 cf and tweeters installed

All I can say is WOW...
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Thanks for the explanation,
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HI guys, im sure many of you have had this same issue, I have a 2010 jk, and i just bought and had professionally installed 4 Alpine SPE-6000 speakers, and a double din jvc touch screen deck CLICK HERE FOR DECK..do i also need an amp? the front speakers sound good, but the sound bar speakers rattle SOOO much, even with the slighest amount of bass. Im sure they arent toast because ive had them in for less than 24 hours and they sounded that way when i got my vehicle back...will poly-fill fix this issue? and it seems fairly straight forward but are there any video tutorials? thanks guys!
The Poly-Fil got rid of all rattles from the sport bar.
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Try the poly-fil in the soundbar first. It improved the overall sound quality and made the speakers have more of a "full" sound. Best 4 bucks I spent and may allow you to live with the stock speakers.
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i poly filled the sound bar..and sure enough it works well..seems to trap the sound from moving anywhere but down and out!! i need to do the same to the front speakers..any tuts on how to do this?
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So after a lot of research, I bought and put in the following and am super satisfied:
Alpine 8" type R 843D dual 4 ohm coil running at 2 ohms. Put in the stock sub box. (Used this sub because it can handle the most power to it and only requires 0.3 sq ft space in a sealed box which is what the stock enclosure space is.) Used Fat Mat to dampen any rattles. Had to build a 3/4" MDF spacer ring and use Alpine sub grille cover. Powering it wit Alpine PDX-5 mono channel at 300 watts RMS. (Actual rating is 400 watt RMS according to Alpine testing certificate.)

Put in the kicker 77kick10's in the soundbar. These actually are 3.4-3.7 ohm impedence, so if you run them off your factory Infiniti amp which is a 2ohm amp, you will be getting even less power to them and they will probably sound worse. I however polyfilled the sound bar and am powering it with the Alpine PDX-5 at 4 ohms. (spoke with Alpine and Kicker and both said this would be fine despite the slight difference in impedence.).

To convert the speaker levels to line output I am using AudioController's LC6i. This allows you to sum channels as well as individually boost lines (ie you can boost the signal to the soundbar to match the fronts and get a more balanced sound.)

I have not done the fronts yet. That will come next. I will again run this through the Alpine PDX-5 and use the LC6i.

So far the results are amazing! Took it to a race this last weekend with. A lot of show cars and people could not believe the sound I was getting out of this, especially the sub.
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So after a lot of research, I bought and put in the following and am super satisfied:
Alpine 8" type R 843D dual 4 ohm coil running at 2 ohms. Put in the stock sub box. (Used this sub because it can handle the most power to it and only requires 0.3 sq ft space in a sealed box which is what the stock enclosure space is.) Used Fat Mat to dampen any rattles. Had to build a 3/4" MDF spacer ring and use Alpine sub grille cover. Powering it wit Alpine PDX-5 mono channel at 300 watts RMS. (Actual rating is 400 watt RMS according to Alpine testing certificate.)

Put in the kicker 77kick10's in the soundbar. These actually are 3.4-3.7 ohm impedence, so if you run them off your factory Infiniti amp which is a 2ohm amp, you will be getting even less power to them and they will probably sound worse. I however polyfilled the sound bar and am powering it with the Alpine PDX-5 at 4 ohms. (spoke with Alpine and Kicker and both said this would be fine despite the slight difference in impedence.).

To convert the speaker levels to line output I am using AudioController's LC6i. This allows you to sum channels as well as individually boost lines (ie you can boost the signal to the soundbar to match the fronts and get a more balanced sound.)

I have not done the fronts yet. That will come next. I will again run this through the Alpine PDX-5 and use the LC6i.

So far the results are amazing! Took it to a race this last weekend with. A lot of show cars and people could not believe the sound I was getting out of this, especially the sub.
when stuffing the sound bar with poly, did you put poly above the speakers directly? or did you allow room for air to flow? just curious. thanks
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is it me or do the stock speakers actually distort to the point of sounding blown when the volume is up? I have less then 1200 miles on my 2012 and im seriously not impressed with the stereo what so ever.. will the kicker upgrades cure that awful sound or do i need to replace the head unit as well?
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is it me or do the stock speakers actually distort to the point of sounding blown when the volume is up? I have less then 1200 miles on my 2012 and im seriously not impressed with the stereo what so ever.. will the kicker upgrades cure that awful sound or do i need to replace the head unit as well?
from my experience the speakers sound blown because they rattle...ie the sound bar and the front dash, i replaced my speakers and head unit and the rattle increased because of better speakers and head unit. stuffing with poly helped in the sound bar..im still waiting for others about stuffing the front speaker box or just around it.
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Bumping this old thread.

If I add a better sub, I've pretty much settled on the Alpine SWR-823D DVC 2 Ohm as a drop in. Looks like I'll need and spacer and an overpriced Alpine Grill as well. (A lot more power would help...but that is another story).

But on the drivers....what is the word in the Infinitys? I'm usually not a fan (prefer Polk), but it seem like these are the only 2 ohm speakers on the market. Crutchfield says the Kappa's won't fit. I'm not even sure what the difference are. I see 62.9, 63.9, and 62.11 on different sites.

Any thoughts on these?

I'm trying to avoid the Reference line if possible....but Crutchfield does say those do fit.
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i have the infinity system [stock] i replaced the sound bar with 6.5 Boston's ... which basically just produce the highs... because the speakers are 4ohms... but that's what it was lacking.. for my taste

if you're keeping the factory head unit and amp, i recommend searching for 2ohm speakers which will be louder and likely sound better. if i knew then what i know now good luck
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Has anyone replaced the "premium Alpine" speakers (NOT the Infinity's from last year) in the 2013's with the Kicker drop-ins? If so, was there any improvement?
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Ok where do you get polyfil and do you just fillup the inside of the sound bar?
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i absolutely hated the sound of my Wrangler when i bought it new back in march. it sounded like a walmart stereo in my first car when i was 16. anyway i had an alpine in dash 45wx4 installed for the Door speakers/the sound bar and had a 10" kicker sub woofer and 125W amp installed the first week i had it. it sounds awesome now. i didn't mess with getting a new head unit cause i didn't want to lose my handsfree capability and radio controls on my steering wheel. now it sounds awesome and wasn't too terribly expensive.
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Ok where do you get polyfil and do you just fillup the inside of the sound bar?
Wal-Mart...or better yet...your closet. Find an old cheap pillow and rip the stuffing out of it. That is basically waht polyfil is.

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