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Old 01-30-2013, 06:27 PM   #61
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I have a question everyone...I just put the Polk db651s in my sound bar on my 2011 and the brackets crutchfield sent didn't go on without a struggle and ontop of that there is a gap between the bracket and the plastic of the soundbar. Is this normal? Is an air tight seal between the bracket and sound bar necessary (or almost air tight)? Need some advice guys

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Old 01-30-2013, 06:29 PM   #62
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Theres a shot of the gap..up left from the screw.

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Old 01-30-2013, 10:14 PM   #63
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Take a look at the brackets to see if the bezel is thicker one side of the mount holes. I found out my brackets were by one side flush mounted and the other had a gap. Flipped the bezel and it mounted flush.

Just a thought.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:16 PM   #64
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Well Crutchfield got back to me and I had no idea they were free air speakers so the gap doesn't even matter anymore lol. Its hard to see and the speakers look like they fit perfect just under closer investigation you see the gaps and such. I'm going to leave them as is. Thanks guys!
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So, for someone who has zero sound/speaker experience. I am getting ready to add a single channel amp to run to the sub (was told that would help existing sub hit a bit harder)...is that right? will it sound better just doing that?

Also, for sound bar speakers, are the Polk dxi 651s and db 650s that are referenced above something I can install myself? easy as unplugging the existing speaker from a plug and plugging the new one in? I have a 2013 Sahara
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Can anyone answer my question above? I figured there was more than plug in and screw in, but maybe not?

Will just adding an amp help the sub?
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Can anyone answer my question above? I figured there was more than plug in and screw in, but maybe not?

Will just adding an amp help the sub?
You will need to cut the connector and wire the speakers unless you get ones like the Kicker that is specifically designed for the JK.
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What does that entail? Again, no experience here. I assume "cut the connector" means I would cut the wires so that the connector would detach and throw the connector away. What would "wiring the speakers" entail? If I bought the Polk speakers from Crutchfield or something, would they have instructions on this and/or a new connnector?
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It means figuring out which wire is which and splicing them together. Check with Crutchfield and see if they have a plug and play speaker option.
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You will need to cut the connector and wire the speakers unless you get ones like the Kicker that is specifically designed for the JK.
Wrong! You are getting some bad advice, Bigkevj. Crutchfield has plug and play speaker adapters for virtually every car on the planet. You WILL NOT need to cut any wires.

As for the sub, the amp will probably help some...but replacing the sub will make a big difference. I have a 500-watt single channel amp that I will be wiring up to a Polk MM840 sub as soon as I can get around to it. The sub fits in the stock enclosure...though you will need to get a bit creative with the grille. I'm using a grille made for Rockford Fosgate subs.

The wiring to the sub is also a weak link. You should run heavier gauge wiring from the amp to the sub.
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Wrong! You are getting some bad advice, Bigkevj. Crutchfield has plug and play speaker adapters for virtually every car on the planet. You WILL NOT need to cut any wires.

As for the sub, the amp will probably help some...but replacing the sub will make a big difference. I have a 500-watt single channel amp that I will be wiring up to a Polk MM840 sub as soon as I can get around to it. The sub fits in the stock enclosure...though you will need to get a bit creative with the grille. I'm using a grille made for Rockford Fosgate subs.

The wiring to the sub is also a weak link. You should run heavier gauge wiring from the amp to the sub.
Did you read my next post after he mentioned crutchfield?
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Can only shallow speakers fit in the soundbar? I know when I had my TJ, Crutchfield told me the same thing, that only shallow speakers would fit. However I was able to fit normal depth speakers in it just fine with no quality issues. Is this also true for the JK soundbar?
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Can only shallow speakers fit in the soundbar? I know when I had my TJ, Crutchfield told me the same thing, that only shallow speakers would fit. However I was able to fit normal depth speakers in it just fine with no quality issues. Is this also true for the JK soundbar?
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Yes.
Wait... Yes to which question? I asked too many questions in my post and now I confused myself, hahah.

So, yes only shallow speakers will fit?
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Wait... Yes to which question? I asked too many questions in my post and now I confused myself, hahah.

So, yes only shallow speakers will fit?


The answer to your question should actually have been yes and no. Speaking of the Polks, which you mentioned earlier, the non-s version actually has a shallower top-mount depth than the s-version. The difference is in how far the tweeter protrudes from the front of the speaker. If you want to re-use the factory grille, then yes, you must use the shallow mount, though some people have cut a hole in the factory grille for the tweeter protrusion. If you want to use Polk's grille, no problem...from what I have read. However, I bought the shallow-mount 651s speakers anyway after reading good things about them. I don't need the lower frequency extension of the non-s version since the sub will take care of that. I have yet to install them. Crutchfield has detailed specs on their site. You can learn a lot from studying those.
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I called Crutchfield about the Polk 651s because it doesnt say for sure on their site if the price is for 1 or 2. The guy on the phone told me they would not work on my jeep. I said i know they will cause people on this forum have installed them, and he said they will not. I asked about the bracket that I would need, and then he said they would work after all. Great help.
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yeah i was wondering that also, Crutchfield says that the 6" wont fit yet everyone on here has them.. they need to fix the website
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:20 AM   #78
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I just put dB651s in all for positions in my Jk. Fit great. Get them from crutchfield with the brackets and harnesses
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do the Polks sound that much better than the stock infinity/alpine with the factory amp?
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do the Polks sound that much better than the stock infinity/alpine with the factory amp?
Yes. Having heard Polks, Harmon &kardon, kicker, boston acoustics, bose and many others, I will buy Polks from here on out. They are very bright but with a little EQ tuning their perfect. Super clear and clean.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:44 AM   #81
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Got the 651s Polks in the sound bar yesterday. holy crap are they better! I am running to get two more for the dash!
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can anybody confirm if the kicker 6.5 (77KICK10 i think is the part number) speakers come as a pair or separate? i want to order some, but my parts guy has no info if the come saparate or not, that way i know to order one or two, thanks!
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can anybody confirm if the kicker 6.5 (77KICK10 i think is the part number) speakers come as a pair or separate? i want to order some, but my parts guy has no info if the come saparate or not, that way i know to order one or two, thanks!
They comes as a pair. Looks around you they will run around $70-$75 a pair.

They are only so-so upgrade at best....
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They comes as a pair. Looks around you they will run around $70-$75 a pair.

They are only so-so upgrade at best....
I agree - the Polks are way nicer IMO than the kickers. Worth the extra 10$ to get the adaptor brackets and wire connectors if you want plug and play like the kicker kit would be. You can find all the stuff you need on amazon or crutchfield.
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I popped JL C2- 525X in my sound bar and JL TR600-CX1 into my dash. Sounded ok until I attached the alpine power pack to my stock deck and now it sounds amazing. I love JL product.
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replacing speakers all around.

Sorry guys, Im new here and have been reading this thread with great interest.

I just bought a 07 Sahara Unlimited. It came equipped with he Infinity system but I cant help but feel that the system is worn and I think a dash speaker may even be blown.

my question is, are the speakers in the sound bar the same size as the speakers int he dash?

and is there a Sub that I could place into the original enclosure in the back? I want to keep the factory look. the speakers are my priority, the sub not so much.

You keep talking about the Polk speakers. would 4 of those suffice?
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Edubiton...I cant speak for a 07. I have a 13 Sahara 2 door.....I bought 4 of the polk speakers and they fit fine in all 4 spots....and sound great.
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You keep talking about the Polk speakers. would 4 of those suffice?
The JK speakers are 6.5". All four are the same size. The Polk speakers are a drop-in replacement. You'd need to splice the wire to them or buy some adapters. I prefer cutting off the OEM connectors and wiring them directly.

I've read that you'd need the slim version, or db651s to mount in the soundbar and front speaker boxes to avoid issues. I went with Polk MM6501 components in the front so I didn't have the tweeter mounted in the speaker to contact the grille. I used the regular 651 speakers in the soundbar and didn't reuse the stock grilles, so again, no worries with contacting the stock grilles.
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thanks guys. Looks like this may be a simple headache free upgrade.
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I did the Polk db651s. they are the shallow mount speakers, and did them in all 4 spots. Crutchfield has them buy one pair get one pair 50% off through today I believe. I know Crutchfield is a bit more expensive than finding them on Amazon, but they come with the mounting brackets and wiring adapters....makes it very easy.

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