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Old 01-06-2011, 10:19 AM   #1
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Had my SpiderTrax 1.5" spacers installed today at this shop.

The guys there were nice, very professional, and the price for the install along with a (full synth) oil change was just an incredible deal. Royal Purple with a K&N oil filter for $65?? Tossed on the spacers for $5. Crazy.

Anyway, onto the pics. If the upload works right, they should be front before, front close up before, front after, front close up after, and a downward shot after.

The tires/wheels now sit just a touch outside the fenders. (You can't tell that from the front pics, but you can see it in the downward one.) Looks really good I think.

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Why is there a truck bed with no cab in the third picture by the door of the store, and nice shoes...

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Why is there a truck bed with no cab in the third picture by the door of the store, and nice shoes...
Did not notice that--it almost looks shopped.

Fixed the shoes.
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looks good MTH.

forgive my ignorance, what is the bar behind the front bumper and in front of your grill?
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Omg that's hilarious
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looks good MTH.

forgive my ignorance, what is the bar behind the front bumper and in front of your grill?
looks like a hoop, light bar
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looks good MTH. forgive my ignorance, what is the bar behind the front bumper and in front of your grill?
It's a light bar for lights that aren't there.

You can see it (with lights) here. My plan at the moment is to grind off the three light brackets, bedline over the grind marks, and leave it as is--like a bare bones grille guard.
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My plan at the moment is to grind off the three light brackets, bedline over the grind marks, and leave it as is--like a bare bones grille guard.
Using my remarkably rudimentary "photoshop" skills, this demonstrates my eventual plan for the front bumper/grille . . . .
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Fixed the shoes.
I thought he was talkin bout the tires!
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a number of people just remove the plastic bumper cover...i think the JKs look better w/o it all together.
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Looks good MTH, but I have a question. Why are JK owners putting spacers on in the first place? I ask because it seems like a lot of JK owners are doing this recently without changing wheels.
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I think it would look a lot better with the bumpers center chrome piece removed but I really like the stubby look. I think you might like it better with a couple more inches removed on each side.
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I would have to ask why put the spacers on - especially if the tires are the same and there's no issue with rubbing, etc.

Basically, they charged $5 to rotate your tires without actually rotating / balancing them - but will admit, the price on the RP oil change is very good.
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a number of people just remove the plastic bumper cover...i think the JKs look better w/o it all together.
Yeah, I've debated it. Ultimately, I like how it matches the grey grille on the Mountain Edition. But for my grey grille, I'd ditch it.

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Looks good MTH, but I have a question. Why are JK owners putting spacers on in the first place? I ask because it seems like a lot of JK owners are doing this recently without changing wheels.
Thanks. My guess for most JKers is that spacers are much cheaper than new wheels or fenders.

However, that's not why I did it. Spacers are one more thing to worry about, so I really would have preferred to just get new wheels with appropriate backspacing. But, for me, I really love my Mountain Edition wheels and haven't seen a comparable aftermarket wheel. (If you've seen one, by all means let me know.) Even one of the guys at the shop wanted to buy them from me if ever sell them.

So, I'll be keeping (and carefully watching) the spacers until I see an aftermarket wheel I like with less backspacing.
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I would have to ask why put the spacers on - especially if the tires are the same and there's no issue with rubbing, etc.

Basically, they charged $5 to rotate your tires without actually rotating / balancing them - but will admit, the price on the RP oil change is very good.

I thought the same thing before I got mine. I did mine mainly because my new front XHD bumper and winch pulled my front end down. I was mainly correcting that but got a higher lift then expected. And it is amazing what a couple inches does to the look of the Jeep. The stiffer springs I put in raised mine 1 1/4" and many said that a leveling 1" spacer in front would level the factory look and it did. I am very glad I did mine.
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I would have to ask why put the spacers on - especially if the tires are the same and there's no issue with rubbing, etc.

Basically, they charged $5 to rotate your tires without actually rotating / balancing them - but will admit, the price on the RP oil change is very good.
As to why, pure aesthetics. I may eventually go to 33s with a small lift, so rubbing could conceivably be an issue later. But really, pure aesthetics.

The rotation analogy is pretty close course, but in fairness they do have to actually put on the spacers, apply lock tight, torque the nuts on the spacers, and then torque the nuts on the wheels. It took a lot longer than $5 worth of labor time--and they charge quite a bit more to rotate the tires!

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I think it would look a lot better with the bumpers center chrome piece removed but I really like the stubby look. I think you might like it better with a couple more inches removed on each side.
I'm looking at this stubby kit, and I was really just guessing during my "photoshop" session. But you might be right on the couple more inches idea.

I've revised the pic to reflect removing the chrome piece. It's a close call, but I still think I like it with it.
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I thought the same thing before I got mine. I did mine mainly because my new front XHD bumper and winch pulled my front end down. I was mainly correcting that but got a higher lift then expected. And it is amazing what a couple inches does to the look of the Jeep. The stiffer springs I put in raised mine 1 1/4" and many said that a leveling 1" spacer in front would level the factory look and it did. I am very glad I did mine.
No no, sorry for the confusion. I got WHEEL spacers, not spring spacers. My wheels are spaced out an extra 1.5".
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I thought the same thing before I got mine. I did mine mainly because my new front XHD bumper and winch pulled my front end down. I was mainly correcting that but got a higher lift then expected. And it is amazing what a couple inches does to the look of the Jeep. The stiffer springs I put in raised mine 1 1/4" and many said that a leveling 1" spacer in front would level the factory look and it did. I am very glad I did mine.
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lol, what I get for not reading it all. I have been considering the wheel spacer put hear conflicting reports on them. Especially becoming lose. I like to see how you like them over time.
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But, for me, I really love my Mountain Edition wheels and haven't seen a comparable aftermarket wheel. (If you've seen one, by all means let me know.) Even one of the guys at the shop wanted to buy them from me if ever sell them.

So, I'll be keeping (and carefully watching) the spacers until I see an aftermarket wheel I like with less backspacing.
Mamba made some - in that exact color - but I haven't seen them for a few weeks on the quadratec site... AEV Pintlar's are probably the closest.

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Mamba made some - in that exact color - but I haven't seen them for a few weeks on the quadratec site... AEV Pintlar's are probably the closest.

I love my ProComp's
Thanks. Those AEV's sure are pretty. With my spacers, I'm effectively down to 4.5" of backspacing on a stock wheel (6" bs - 1.5" spacer = 4.5" of bs), which is aesthetically about as high as I'd want to be. The Pintlers have 4.7", so they're close and will be on my "maybe" list. Ideally, I'd really like to be at about 4" of bs. I like the tires bumping out a bit!
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Do you know how long the lugs are on the hub? In other words, what is the smallest wheel spacer you can get? I seen some 1.25 that was at a decent price. Wish I could get some for $5 though
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With my Bushwacker pocket flares, i'm using the 1.5" spidertrax adapters and my ProComp alloy wheels have 4.5" BS, so they're at 3" actual back space and it's perfect with the flare edges !!





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Do you know how long the lugs are on the hub? In other words, what is the smallest wheel spacer you can get? I seen some 1.25 that was at a decent price. Wish I could get some for $5 though
You actually mount the spacers to the stock wheel lugs, and then mount the wheels to new lugs that are on the spacers. You can see it here.

For that reason, they're technically not "spacers," they're really "adapters." True spacers--which just go over the stock wheel lugs and leave you less lug to hold your wheel--are super dangerous.

There are some companies besides SpiderTrax that make spacers, but SpiderTrax seem to be the industry leader. For the Wrangler, they make 1.5" and that's it as far as I know. You've just got to make sure that you check the lugs--both on the wheels and the spacers--a few miles after the install and then at each rotation thereafter.

Does that answer your question?
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With my Bushwacker pocket flares, i'm using the 1.5" spidertrax adapters and my ProComp alloy wheels have 4.5" BS, so they're at 3" actual back space and it's perfect with the flare edges !! JIMBO
That is exactly why I don't have those flares. I love'em and prefer them over flat flares, but I expect they'd look ridiculous over my stock wheels, even with the spacers.

I have come to believe, by the way, that you are probably the fifth member of the A-Team. If you gave me one guess--just one--to try and pick out which member of the WF mounted an M-60 to his roll bar, it'd be Jimbo every time.
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Heh Heh,thanx-I don't know if I should be flattered, or flattened !!


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That is exactly why I don't have those flares. I love'em and prefer them over flat flares, but I expect they'd look ridiculous over my stock wheels, even with the spacers.

I have come to believe, by the way, that you are probably the fifth member of the A-Team. If you gave me one guess--just one--to try and pick out which member of the WF mounted an M-60 to his roll bar, it'd be Jimbo every time.
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Heh Heh,thanx-I don't know if I should be flattered, or flattened !! JIMBO
Either way is fine with me--just don't shoot! It's a compliment, your Jeep always looks really slick.

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I have been considering the wheel spacer put hear conflicting reports on them. Especially becoming lose. I like to see how you like them over time.
Translation: "If you die, please let us know and I won't get them."

Yeah, I read all that stuff too. My conclusion was that--properly installed--they should be fine.

The bottom line is that just like any other mod that touchs important parts (lifts, anyone?), there is risk. I plan to check the lugs tonight and then again at each rotation.

The "horror stories" are oft repeated but, in actuality, few and far between. I haven't seen anything on WF where an actual member had a problem with SpiderTrax spacers, though many members undoubtedly use them. There was a story on JK-F a while ago where somebody did have a problem with another company's.

In any event, my expectation is that I will never find them to be loose. If I do, I'm taking them off.
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Heh Heh, the only trouble with the Spidertrax adapters-is operator in-attention !!


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Either way is fine with me--just don't shoot! It's a compliment, your Jeep always looks really slick.



Translation: "If you die, please let us know and I won't get them."

Yeah, I read all that stuff too. My conclusion was that--properly installed--they should be fine.

The bottom line is that just like any other mod that touchs important parts (lifts, anyone?), there is risk. I plan to check the lugs tonight and then again at each rotation.

The "horror stories" are oft repeated but, in actuality, few and far between. I haven't seen anything on WF where an actual member had a problem with SpiderTrax spacers, though many members undoubtedly use them. There was a story on JK-F a while ago where somebody did have a problem with another company's.

In any event, my expectation is that I will never find them to be loose. If I do, I'm taking them off.
If they're installed correctly (remove star washers) and torqued with good torque wrench--ALWAYS checked (with torque wrench)on tire rotations--they're fine !!

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