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Old 09-14-2012, 01:49 PM   #121
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I think the usefulness of these shade tops would depend solely on the climate you live in. A varying climate like in the eastern U.S. is one where I just fail to see how a shade top would be worth it. You're folding the top back to get the open air and view of the sky, then you're covering it back up with a shade top? Seems a little ridiculous if you think about it. That's 50% of your view cut down instantly. And then when it rains, you're soaked unless you fold the main top back down again, rendering the shade top useless. The small amount of time you actually get to USE the shade top wouldn't make it worth it to me with the weather changing so much here. I'd much rather just wear a hat and leave the top open.

Now, in the desert southwest where it's hot and dry a lot of the time... that's a different story. This shade top might be great out there.
We had another record hot summer in the Midwest & the shade in those upper 90s and 100 degree days made having the top down be bearable. Otherwise it would have been top up for me. The spyderweb shade kept things much cooler.

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Old 09-15-2012, 06:30 AM   #122
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we had another record hot summer in the midwest & the shade in those upper 90s and 100 degree days made having the top down be bearable. Otherwise it would have been top up for me. The spyderweb shade kept things much cooler.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:26 AM   #123
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Whenever I put up my soft top I struggle with removing those 2 outside spider-balls along the front windshield. They are a pain in the butt to get back on as well. I have decided to start using black zip ties in these 2 corners and leave the spider-balls in the glovebox. I keep a back on 8" black zip ties and a small set of snips so I can zip it and snip of the tail. Much easier. When I need to put my soft top up, I cut the zip tie.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:32 PM   #124
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I just got my JKini today, drove over to their shop here in Orlando and picked one. No shipping and no tax, that was kinda cool.

I put the top on with my freedom panles off and the rest of the hard top still on, it was kind of a pain but doable. I then tried to put the freedom tops back on and realized that not only did I need to take the three spider balls off the windshield but I also had to take the two that were threaded through the the holes in the sound bar. I could not get the center bolts to thread all the way on with the spider balls in place because the cords kept catching the wheel as I was threading the bolt.

Has anyone else had this problem? I can go back to the shop here in town but they are closed till monday so I thought I'd ask here. If I cannot work around this, I may return it to them and go get the dirty dog shade in its place.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:35 PM   #125
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I don't screw the bolts back in when I put the freedom panels back on. And I usually only take the two spider balls off the front and leave the middle one on. It's easier I've found and I haven't had any leak issues not using the middle twist down or bolts.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:52 PM   #126
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The middle front has an offset grommet to leave it attached to the side of the loop and clear the hardtop center swing latch.

On the JKU I do not think it was intended to use the spiderballs in the center roll bar. There are small cover flaps that should cover the holes when the top is off, I believe to pad them so wind flapping does not pound the metal roll cage and make noise or remove paint. When the top is on you fold the cover flaps back and allow the panel screw knobs to pass through. The long spiderballs you are using in the center I use in the outside front corners wrapped around the visor mounts. That way when the small spiderballs are removed, the top is still in place between the visor and roof, not drooping or flapping around. Also makes removing/installing the small spiderballs easier - they only serve to add full tension.

I just completed a 10-day 3700 mile road trip in my 2013 JKU-S through Oregon. Idaho, Utah, Colorado, and Yellowstone. Replaced the stock tires/wheels in Salt Lake City (at 1500 miles on them) due to sharp rock punctures on Hells Canyon area forest roads.

Temps in Moab were in the upper 90's each day and Colorado was cooler (especially at 13K feet). Rained threated but missed most of it. The Ultramesh worked very well. I opened the SunRider soft top most days and closed it up each night or when the temps dropped and we got too chilly. Only have to remove the 2 small spiderballs on the outside front loops for either hard top or soft top. Getting the rear spiderballs on during initial installation was a royal pain. They need to be 2" longer.
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Old 09-16-2012, 11:15 AM   #127
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Just finally installed mine today after waiting for the 2 rainy months. It's always hot and muggy in Florida and add in direct sunlight baking my crainium as I'm sitting at a long stop light makes driving with the top down not real enjoyable. So far i love it and can't beat the price.
Just watch the video and pause it as you go step by step and its not too bad to install. Tried about a month ago to do it after quickly watching the video and trying to do it right after, did not work well. Took it off and put the top back up because it started to rain.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:46 AM   #128
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:48 AM   #129
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JKini only covers from the windshield to the soundbar, yes. Unfortunately they don't seem to make an UltraMesh version, only the darker TrailMesh.

On the plus side, there's a cutout at the rear of the shade, making it easy to open/close the rear-center freedom top clasp. The full-size shades lack this cutout, so I'm not sure how folks secure this latch.

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Old 09-18-2012, 09:56 AM   #130
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What is the secret to putting on the JKini version with the hardtop on? Freedom panels are off, but getting the straps between the hardtop and the sound bar is next to impossible and then attaching it the way they suggest is actually IMPOSIBLE once you DO thread it thru there. I dont want to take the whole hard top off just to put this thing on.....
I am sorry to report that you will have to remove the hard top completely to install the JKini the first time. Once it is installed the JKini stays in place and will never have to be removed.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:04 AM   #131
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I just got my JKini today, drove over to their shop here in Orlando and picked one. No shipping and no tax, that was kinda cool.

I put the top on with my freedom panles off and the rest of the hard top still on, it was kind of a pain but doable. I then tried to put the freedom tops back on and realized that not only did I need to take the three spider balls off the windshield but I also had to take the two that were threaded through the the holes in the sound bar. I could not get the center bolts to thread all the way on with the spider balls in place because the cords kept catching the wheel as I was threading the bolt.

Has anyone else had this problem? I can go back to the shop here in town but they are closed till monday so I thought I'd ask here. If I cannot work around this,
Please come by the shop so we can show you how this is done. We would love to help!
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:03 PM   #132
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I am sorry to report that you will have to remove the hard top completely to install the JKini the first time. Once it is installed the JKini stays in place and will never have to be removed.
I didn't have to remove the whole hard top in my jeep and I got the jkini on just fine, may not have been to your specific directions but it definitely works the right way still
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:37 PM   #133
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I got my Unlimited Shade Cage from Krawl yesterday but will not install until Spring. Shoulder surgery is a b__ch. I'm already waiting for Spring.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:29 AM   #134
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I didn't have to remove the whole hard top in my jeep and I got the jkini on just fine, may not have been to your specific directions but it definitely works the right way still
Hey OrangeCrushGirl, your install looks good! Going under the sound bar with the rear straps may cause a headroom issue for some. That is the reason we designed the JKini to go over the sound bar. Nice work with your install and I am glad you like your top!!!
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #135
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As a dealer for Spiderwebshades in Sunny and hot Southern California, we run the Spiderwebshades on 3 of our shop JKs. They are a very good alternative to no top or a bikini top. On my JKUR, I run the JKini, then the full size shade on top of that so the front seats have a little more shade for those hot days on a slow 4 low rock crawl trail. When your above 6000 feet, you burn a little easier and this took care of that for me, and you still get the open air of the Spiderwebshades.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:31 PM   #136
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Quasi installed my TrailMesh for my JKU. Love it! I have to go back and install the shade a little tighter.
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To users of the full four door Spiderwebshade:

I installed mine and am having a slight issue with some buffeting across the top of the soundbar with the shade. I've read some that say putting a towel under there helps. That's not as clean a solution as I'd like. There must be a better fix.

These are my thoughts.

1) Place a small strip (~24") of black window trim seal across the top of the soundbar. The shade would contact that instead of the plastic soundbar.

2) Open the velcro covers over the hard top screws and secure that point through the hard top holes. I don't have a hard top so those holes are free. What mechanism could I use to put down through the shade from the top that would still put tension on the top to keep it from flapping? I'd wan the top to be flat so I could still put the soft top on and not have a bulge up there.

I'd prefer option 2 but I'm not sure how to implement it.

These two holes where you see spider balls are what I'm talking about using.



But I can't wrap around the soundbar because I have the full 4-door version. There are two holes in the shade though that line up with those two holes.
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I am really considering a red 4d trailmesh for my new 10A JKUR (white with red). Or maybe blue, or grey. Grey is probably the coolest temp color, but red or blue would look real good. I wish I could see all three on my Jeep, so I could decide.
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Hi guys! I'm really interested in these shades for my 2014 JKUR in the hot southern california sun, but I have two concerns. Note that I only want to cover the freedom panel area, over the driver and passenger.

Concern 1: The video says you have to have the *entire* hard top off to properly install the spiderweb shade. OK, I guess I can buy pizza and beer for my neighbors to help me lift the top off and then put it back on, but is there any other way to do this with a one-man team? I live in an apartment complex and don't have a hard top lift. I would also like to be able to install and remove the shade on the road, since I wheel with my girlfriend.

Concern 2: So you say that the hard top can be re-installed with the spiderweb shade installed, but is there a video of this anywhere? Obviously you'd have to take the spider balls out of the threaded freedom panel bolt holes, so....I have to buy pizza and beer for the neighbors next time I thread the spider balls through?

This looks like an epic product, but the fully understanding the flexibility of installing it on-the-go, and without removing the rear third of the hard top is holding up my purchase. Thanks in advance for your 2 cents!
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Also, how does this shade compare to the Rugged Ridge Eclipse?
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Hi guys! I'm really interested in these shades for my 2014 JKUR in the hot southern california sun, but I have two concerns. Note that I only want to cover the freedom panel area, over the driver and passenger.

Concern 1: The video says you have to have the *entire* hard top off to properly install the spiderweb shade. OK, I guess I can buy pizza and beer for my neighbors to help me lift the top off and then put it back on, but is there any other way to do this with a one-man team? I live in an apartment complex and don't have a hard top lift. I would also like to be able to install and remove the shade on the road, since I wheel with my girlfriend.

Concern 2: So you say that the hard top can be re-installed with the spiderweb shade installed, but is there a video of this anywhere? Obviously you'd have to take the spider balls out of the threaded freedom panel bolt holes, so....I have to buy pizza and beer for the neighbors next time I thread the spider balls through?

This looks like an epic product, but the fully understanding the flexibility of installing it on-the-go, and without removing the rear third of the hard top is holding up my purchase. Thanks in advance for your 2 cents!
I have the full spiderweb shade cage. I think you could install the jkini without the top off. I have the full length and it would be tough, but I think doable. These are highly adjustable, you can bungee in one place if another doesn't suit. You can get longer and shorter ball bungees on line, to make installations easier and varied.
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Mike, you can also reinstall the front spider balls with the freedom panels on so you don't lose them. There was another spiderweb shade thread earlier this summer that I posted some pictures in. Let me know if you can't find it and I will try to.

We have the full version, not the jkini and we took the top off to install. Not sure what the difference is with the shorter one. Putting the whole setup back on with the spiderweb shade installed was a piece of cake. The only trick is that you have to turn the freedom panel latches THROUGH the spiderweb shade. You won't be able to reach them (unless you are able to because it is shorter) with the shade on. But it's super simple and pretty obvious once you actually have the shade in hand. I'd shoot you a video, but we are in Austin house hunting right now and time is tight.

And for what it's worth, the spider balls don't thread THROUGH the bolt holes directly, at least not on the full shade. We have ours attached to the outside cage. Maybe you could put yours around the sound bar, rather than through the freedom bolt holes?

Hope this helps!
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Maybe you could put yours around the sound bar, rather than through the freedom bolt holes?
That's the kicker. I'm concerned I won't be able to thread the bungees between the rear third of the hard top and the sound bar. I just put some rubber conditioner on the seals and that whole area looks pretty tight. I may have to loosen all of the bolts and tilt the rear third up to thread the bungees through, but it's good to know there are spider balls (what a stupid name) long enough to do this...

Thanks for all of the detailed info and quick responses folks!
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Went ahead and pulled the trigger on the JKini-4D (Black). Total price was $65.98 shipped to CA with promo code WF10. We shall see...
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Also, how does this shade compare to the Rugged Ridge Eclipse?
That's what I want to know too. I wonder if it is easier to reach the freedom latches with the Eclipse. Any thoughts?
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If you email them with questions and leave your # they will call you within a day. The guy in the install video is the one who has called me back twice. This company is amazing. Top notch. Its nice to talk to a human instead of emails. You won't be dissapointed in this product.
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If you email them with questions and leave your # they will call you within a day. The guy in the install video is the one who has called me back twice. This company is amazing. Top notch. Its nice to talk to a human instead of emails. You won't be dissapointed in this product.
Happy with my order and excited for it to arrive. Got an email back and a call back in less than 12 hours.

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