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Old 01-14-2013, 09:21 PM   #1
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Steering and ABS/ESP Problems after Coil Swap

I switched from 14/55 coils in a stock 2010 2 dr Sport to 18/59 coils (and shocks) from a 2013 4 dr Rubi. The part numbers switched were still available for 2010 2 dr models. I gained 2.25" of lift and had problems recentering the steering wheel. After a few short drives, the ABS, ESP and ESP/BAC lights came on.

I recentered the steering wheel 6 times and it still pulled left or right every time. I got an alignment today as my pre-alignment numbers were bad for the front D&P toe and passenger rear toe (camber and caster okay for all). It still pulls slightly to the right and all 3 ABS lights are still on.

My DTC is U1417 which is "improbable left wheel placement". I have removed and cleaned the driver's rear ABS sensor (not dirty) and my Jeep is sitting in the dealer's lot for diagnosis tomorrow.

What did I do wrong?

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Wow not sure, I am new to the JK series, I just put on a 2.5" lift (springs & shocks) by Rough County ended up with 3 inches of lift in front and 2.5 in the rear. I did install a rear tracking bar relocation bracket. My steering wheel is straight and it does not pull. at 2 to 2.5 inches of lift your axle should be no more than 1/4" out of center. when you find out what is going on please post I am very curious what the cause is.

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I will. I'm hoping I didn't mess up the ABS sensors or wires, but I was very careful when switching the suspension.
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Sensor is $15 and takes 1/2 to replace
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:46 PM   #5
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I'm still under 3/36 warranty, but where do you purchase sensors that cheap?
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Anywhere. AZ/PA .. Napa is more.
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I'm still under 3/36 warranty, but where do you purchase sensors that cheap?
It'll be under warranty as long as you didn't mess it up!
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It'll be under warranty as long as you didn't mess it up!
That's why I went for Mopar parts my first "real" mod. The first dealer said I may be to blame since I checked my own sensors, so I went to another.
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Do you have a part # Jeeper?
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I suspect one of the following:
A) steering wheel still not centered.
B) damaged ABS sensor harness during spring install.
C) all of the above.
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I suspect one of the following:
A) steering wheel still not centered.
B) damaged ABS sensor harness during spring install.
C) all of the above.
A) I did it several times, would this not be corrected during an alignment?
B) Possible, but I was careful. Hopefully warranty will cover this.

Every time I tried to center the steering wheel w/ the tires straight I'd come back into the garage after a test run and the steering wheel would be off center again. Why?
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A) I did it several times, would this not be corrected during an alignment?
B) Possible, but I was careful. Hopefully warranty will cover this.

Every time I tried to center the steering wheel w/ the tires straight I'd come back into the garage after a test run and the steering wheel would be off center again. Why?
Sometimes an alignment tech will align the front end and never bother to check the steering wheel.

You didn't accidentally adjust the tie rod?
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Sometimes an alignment tech will align the front end and never bother to check the steering wheel.

You didn't accidentally adjust the tie rod?
Not to my knowledge. The only thing I adjusted was the drag link. If VERY new to this though; this is my first 4x4.
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Not to my knowledge. The only thing I adjusted was the drag link. If VERY new to this though; this is my first 4x4.
Sometimes it takes less than one full turn of the adjuster to go past center and be off the other way with the steering wheel.

When you swapped springs, did you unplug the rear sensor harnesses before lowering the axle?
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Sometimes it takes less than one full turn of the adjuster to go past center and be off the other way with the steering wheel.

When you swapped springs, did you unplug the rear sensor harnesses before lowering the axle?
No, I didn't but I disconnected the E-brake and the lines on both sides of the rear.

After an alignment should I still be pulling left or right?
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Thanks for the link. If my problem isn't covered by warranty I'll go here.
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No, I didn't but I disconnected the E-brake and the lines on both sides of the rear.

After an alignment should I still be pulling left or right?
If you mean when the you have the steering wheel centered and your Jeep steers left, yes, its possible after an alignment if the tech didn't bother to center the steering wheel.

In other words you alignment could be within factory specs but if the steering wheel isn't centered, it won't drive straight.
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If you mean when the you have the steering wheel centered and your Jeep steers left, yes, its possible after an alignment if the tech didn't bother to center the steering wheel.

In other words you alignment could be within factory specs but if the steering wheel isn't centered, it won't drive straight.
I figured the alignment would fix the steering wheel centering problem (especially after I informed them about the coil swap and centering issues), but i have a 12K mile warranty and will bring the Jeep back if after the dealership is done w/ the ABS light problem. Thanks, guys
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Wow not sure, I am new to the JK series, I just put on a 2.5" lift (springs & shocks) by Rough County ended up with 3 inches of lift in front and 2.5 in the rear. I did install a rear tracking bar relocation bracket. My steering wheel is straight and it does not pull. at 2 to 2.5 inches of lift your axle should be no more than 1/4" out of center. when you find out what is going on please post I am very curious what the cause is.
EZE, the diagnosis was the rear wheel sensor failed. That's the same one I took out to clean, but apparently it was just broken. It was covered under the 3/36 warranty, but if it wasn't I would have changed it myself.
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Did you get the steering wheel centered?
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The alignment place said they did, but I'm bringing it back tomorrow. Idiot lights are off for now.
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Here's a good tutorial on re-centering the steering wheel should you need it.

http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-...-end-alignment
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thanks for letting me know, I will keep that in mind if I get that error code
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thanks for letting me know, I will keep that in mind if I get that error code
No worries. You should be fine if you haven't had any codes so far.

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