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Old 03-30-2012, 01:24 PM   #1
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Steering issue, need advice

Ok... D.W. and shimmies all fixed. Now (prob had before but with other issues never noticed) when steering the car pulls even when holding wheel steady in turn. Also, the wheel now seems to have multiple "dead center" points. I use the bottom stitching as a reference. Sometimes its dead center, others its stitch to the right...
What the hang nail is my baby doing??

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Ok... D.W. and shimmies all fixed. Now (prob had before but with other issues never noticed) when steering the car pulls even when holding wheel steady in turn. Also, the wheel now seems to have multiple "dead center" points. I use the bottom stitching as a reference. Sometimes its dead center, others its stitch to the right...
What the hang nail is my baby doing??
What did you do/repair?

Alignment off?

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Old 03-30-2012, 02:09 PM   #3
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Ball joints, both sides, upper and lower. Steering arms. Bolt kit.
Alignment done.

Am I missing something?? Help...lol, my 5 yr old wants to take it to the beach topless. But not if something is wrong....
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:13 PM   #4
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If you have a Procal, do the Steering Wheel Centering thingy.
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Steering should have been done along with alignment.
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:21 PM   #6
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The weird thing with it is that I am constantly moving the wheel....almost like play??
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:41 PM   #7
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Maybe you lost a wheel weight?
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Have someone crank the wheel back and forth, look to see if something doesn't look right.
I don't trust garages

Do you have the alignment sheet?
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:46 PM   #9
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And where is MA are you?
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:49 PM   #10
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Chicopee area and no... they didn't give me the sheet.
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Everything is stock ?

Assuming they f***** up the alignment.

If your steering was off, most likely set the traction control off. That's easy to check anyways.

1) center the tires the best you can
2) look at the steering wheel. Is it centered?

Toe is the only adjustment that can be made. Stock I think is 1/4" toe-in

The project JK write up explains how to set the toe-in and steering.

If nothing is obvious, I'm in Windsor locks.
Possibly meet up?
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:29 PM   #12
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All stock except I put beefier stab. Went with teraflex. I hated the "updated" mopar one.

No traction light except if I break loose ....one corner everytime its wet out lol. And with wheels straight, wheel is off... 6 o'clock is like 545ish.

And windsor locks is a hop skip jump for me... def meet up for ideas. Ill even bring the beer if ur over 21 lol
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All stock except I put beefier stab. Went with teraflex. I hated the "updated" mopar one.

No traction light except if I break loose ....one corner everytime its wet out lol. And with wheels straight, wheel is off... 6 o'clock is like 545ish.

And windsor locks is a hop skip jump for me... def meet up for ideas. Ill even bring the beer if ur over 21 lol
Lol.... Your steering could be off but that shouldn't cause a problem but the traction control. I've read about some HD steering stabilizers pushing the steering a little.
Dunno.
I could look at it whenever.
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Old 03-31-2012, 11:28 AM   #14
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Sounds good, let me know what days of week are good for you. I work alot but can manage times well.
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Sounds good, let me know what days of week are good for you. I work alot but can manage times well.
What ball joints did you install?

I read something last night about the synergy joints taking some time to break in and loosen up??
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What ball joints did you install?

I read something last night about the synergy joints taking some time to break in and loosen up??
Mine took about 10 miles. I wonder if the people who said that didn't torque to spec.
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Ok... D.W. and shimmies all fixed. Now (prob had before but with other issues never noticed) when steering the car pulls even when holding wheel steady in turn. Also, the wheel now seems to have multiple "dead center" points. I use the bottom stitching as a reference. Sometimes its dead center, others its stitch to the right...
What the hang nail is my baby doing??
A few things here, its a Jeep not a car. (Can't believe Ken missed that) lol
You are talking stitches on steering wheel, like a mm? My wheel has never been perfect, always off barely. And, when you say it pulls while turning, does that mean it tries to straighten out by itself when turning? If so, that's normal.
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A few things here, its a Jeep not a car. (Can't believe Ken missed that) lol
You are talking stitches on steering wheel, like a mm? My wheel has never been perfect, always off barely. And, when you say it pulls while turning, does that mean it tries to straighten out by itself when turning? If so, that's normal.
LOL...ok ok ok, slip of the tounge. Forgive me, it's my first true Jeep. Its more when steering right the Jeep will all of the sudden dive for the curb. I haven't moved my hands nor increased/decreased throttle.

The ball joints are Moogs and I have already put over 100 miles on it since. It feels as if there is play in the steering. And the steering arms were already replaced.
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Something mechanical is definitely wrong. I would take it back to the shop and make them recheck everything.

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LOL...ok ok ok, slip of the tounge. Forgive me, it's my first true Jeep. Its more when steering right the Jeep will all of the sudden dive for the curb. I haven't moved my hands nor increased/decreased throttle.

The ball joints are Moogs and I have already put over 100 miles on it since. It feels as if there is play in the steering. And the steering arms were already replaced.
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Moving to Vernon lol

I believe it was Poly performance that said it. 1000 miles

I doing the synergy ball joints in a couple weeks.
Also tie rod/drag link and new ends.
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I may have accelerated the break in with an aggressive trail the day after install. but it never felt too stiff. Make sure you grease them right after installed even though they come with some already in them.

Sounds like op's issue is between drag link ends, pitman, or worse yet, the steering gear box.
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The only other thing that I can come up with is the steering box/gear. Would that make sense?
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I would have someone cycle the steering from stop to stop while you look at it and check that the end links are tight. Yet I do worry for your sake that a gear in steering box is bad allowing it to skip a tooth and dive into a corner.
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I would have someone cycle the steering from stop to stop while you look at it and check that the end links are tight. Yet I do worry for your sake that a gear in steering box is bad allowing it to skip a tooth and dive into a corner.
That's what I'm worrying about.

Any idea how hard to change the box.
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Doesn't look difficult if you remove the frame side track bar. Just need to bleed air after swapping. Make sure its the issue before you bother though.

I'm thinking pitman arm would be most difficult. Think I heard its supposed to be torqued something crazy and takes a puller to remove.
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Also, anyone close for me to drive to to give me a had to verify part? I'll bring the beer.

I need to get this settled soon. My 5 yr old likes my car too much and if I don't think its safe, she won't go too far in it.
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Also, anyone close for me to drive to to give me a had to verify part? I'll bring the beer.

I need to get this settled soon. My 5 yr old likes my car too much and if I don't think its safe, she won't go too far in it.
Come to my place tomorrow

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And you did it again
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Come to my place tomorrow

And you did it again
Hahahaha....I'm sorry. And that looks like my two cats.

Can't tomorrow, I work 15 hrs. Free wednesday , thurs pm, fri am, sat am this week. (Monday I have to bring my mother to surgeon. Looking like left leg going to be amputated.)
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Sorry to hear that. Ken will help you get it fixed.

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