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Old 09-14-2011, 08:46 PM   #1
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Stick versus Auto

i have been reading around, and i can't really find any benefits to having a stick over an auto. From what i can tell the stick moves around a lot, and the auto has more protection. Are there any other big differences? thanks.

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Sticks more fun to drive IMO

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Stick equals:
$1000 in your pocket
More gears
More control (over shift points...but the auto-stick does help the auto)
Something cool about rocking a stick

I'm looking at an auto myself....but I do like sticks.
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wait what? why would anyone want auto. Autos are for limo drivers and people who tow, stick is for drivers. i usually wind up paying more for cars to get stick, just because why would I want to deal with a computer some intern programmed years ago trying to decide what gear to be in, when i can just step on the clutch and make the thing drive right. granted auto is better in the cities, easier to drive, and has a better resale value, but seriously. 4 gears on the 2011 auto vs 6 on the manual. put jeep in proper gear and enjoy. if something like the stick moving around bugs you, youve clearly never driven stick!
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wait what? why would anyone want auto. Autos are for limo drivers and people who tow, stick is for drivers. i usually wind up paying more for cars to get stick, just because why would I want to deal with a computer some intern programmed years ago trying to decide what gear to be in, when i can just step on the clutch and make the thing drive right. granted auto is better in the cities, easier to drive, and has a better resale value, but seriously. 4 gears on the 2011 auto vs 6 on the manual. put jeep in proper gear and enjoy. if something like the stick moving around bugs you, youve clearly never driven stick!
Good points but Auto is better for rock crawling

And op ..... The Auto vs Manual question is all personal preference and asked way to many times on here.
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Way easier to eat a burger and drive an auto.
Hogwash. I know a guy that can roll a um cig and drink an ummm coke shift gears and use his blinker all at the same time.
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i have been reading around, and i can't really find any benefits to having a stick over an auto. From what i can tell the stick moves around a lot, and the auto has more protection. Are there any other big differences? thanks.
I kind of like it when my stick moves around a lot. When it moves so much that I can't grab hold of it, now that would trouble me.

REALLY? you would decide based on it moving around too much? I'm dumified!.....I made that word up cause I couldn't think of a real word....
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I kind of like it when my stick moves around a lot. When it moves so much that I can't grab hold of it, now that would trouble me.

REALLY? you would decide based on it moving around too much? I'm dumified!.....I made that word up cause I couldn't think of a real word....
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Old 09-15-2011, 05:35 AM   #10
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while reading around i found a post that said the stick ride higher up than the autos. is this true? i know an auto trani weighs more than a stick, so it would make sense. most of my driving will be in town. thanks for the help
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Good points but Auto is better for rock crawling
And op ..... The Auto vs Manual question is all personal preference and asked way to many times on here.[/QUOTE]

I know this is asked a lot on here. but they all say opinion. as a semi-new driver i don't have much experience, so i don't have 1.
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just looking for a difference in #s.
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Good points but Auto is better for rock crawling
And op ..... The Auto vs Manual question is all personal preference and asked way to many times on here.
I know this is asked a lot on here. but they all say opinion. as a semi-new driver i don't have much experience, so i don't have 1.[/QUOTE]

Your right, all opinions but your going to be driving it. I love manual--some hate it.

What do you mean "too high" ?

If I were to get a 2012, auto would be an option. Pre 12 was no option.

I actually learned to drive manual on a jeep, it's easy because with the torque you can slowly let off the clutch pedal and the jeep will move unlike a car where you have to balance the clutch and gas to prevent bucking and/or stalling
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Good points but Auto is better for rock crawling

And op ..... The Auto vs Manual question is all personal preference and asked way to many times on here.
Thast was true in the past, but the anti-stall feature has made that a non issue.
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It's easier to do the Jeep wave with an automatic and if you have a 4 door there's more room, unless you have the soft top folded down, in which case you should get the hard top.

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it's easier to do the jeep wave with an automatic and if you have a 4 door there's more room, unless you have the soft top folded down, in which case you should get the hard top.

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I didn't ever say anything was "too high".
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The biggest bonus with having a stick is the overabundance of innuendos you can use on the ladies.

They both ride the same height. If the auto is heavier, guess technically there could be a millimeter or two difference.
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I didn't ever say anything was "too high".
"rides higher up"

What do mean by that?

Edit: mykill answered that
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on one of the other threads someone said that the automatic trani jeeps ride lower than the sticks.
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on one of the other threads someone said that the automatic trani jeeps ride lower than the sticks.
Oh, nah... They the same.

The skid plates underneath might be different-- clearance wise, but somebody else may know this
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Some of the drivers might be higher. Ever wonder why Jimbox spends so much time out in the desert?
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Some of the drivers might be higher. Ever wonder why Jimbox spends so much time out in the desert?
They got those psychedelic cactus out there too, don't they?
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granted auto is better in the cities, easier to drive, and has a better resale value
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one...
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Some of the drivers might be higher. Ever wonder why Jimbox spends so much time out in the desert?
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They got those psychedelic cactus out there too, don't they?
Cause they can't keepup !!!



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Thats allright Jimbox Im sure you bug some of the sticks-shift guys also.
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Cause they can't keepup !!!

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wait what? why would anyone want auto. Autos are for limo drivers and people who tow, stick is for drivers. i usually wind up paying more for cars to get stick, just because why would I want to deal with a computer some intern programmed years ago trying to decide what gear to be in, when i can just step on the clutch and make the thing drive right. granted auto is better in the cities, easier to drive, and has a better resale value, but seriously. 4 gears on the 2011 auto vs 6 on the manual. put jeep in proper gear and enjoy. if something like the stick moving around bugs you, youve clearly never driven stick!
Or people with physical limitations.
Or people like me who HATED the clutch feel and position in the JK.

You could lock out OD on the old 4 speed auto, hold 1st or 2nd if you needed to, and the new 5 speed has auto-stick.

Clutches are not your friend in deep mud. I'm not sure how fast you can bang the gears on the JK's 6 speed, but that momentary loss of power while you shift CAN get you into trouble as well. Autos are easier to get going in slippery conditions, but learning how to properly slip a clutch can help with that. Autos are better in high traffic areas. On a personal note, I don't have to worry about my wife burning a clutch up and I like to be able to sip my coffee while driving.

Sticks are more fun to drive, but fun is subjective. Sticks generally put more power to the tires. If you tow a lot, a stick MIGHT be better, at least until you get a tuner for your auto.

In a performance car, I'd prefer a manual. In my Jeep, I prefer an auto.
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Hogwash. I know a guy that can roll a um cig and drink an ummm coke shift gears and use his blinker all at the same time.
But most people on the road can't manage to think and drive at the same time, so..........

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