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Old 03-24-2012, 03:46 PM   #1
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Which lift to go with? I'm kinda torn between which lift I want to go with! My local shop highly recommends BDS lifts and u hear nothing but good things about this shop form everyone around town. I kind if like the Rock Krawler long arm kits. But it involves welding so I still will have to take to a shop to have it put on. But I also like the rough country which I believe I can put on with a buddy. The money is no problem if i have to wait a month or 2 to save up for it that's fine with me also. And the way it looks they all 3 have the same warranty. I keep leaning towards the Rock Krawler but then something in the back of my head keeps saying I'll be fine with a cheaper lift. Oh and I have the 2012 2 door with the 6 speed.

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Don't got with a cheap lift. By cheap, I don't mean inexpensive. The RK long arm kits are, by most accounts, really nice. But, like you said, gotta be welded.

What size lift are you looking at, and why? How often do you anticipate wheeling, and in what terrain? What size tires you wanna run? Is your Jeep a DD or more of a toy? Are you building a battleship or do you just wanna cruise a few fire roads from time to time?

Are you gonna scream if I ask one more question?

So...whassup, yo?

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Don't got with a cheap lift. By cheap, I don't mean inexpensive. The RK long arm kits are, by most accounts, really nice. But, like you said, gotta be welded.

What size lift are you looking at, and why? How often do you anticipate wheeling, and in what terrain? What size tires you wanna run? Is your Jeep a DD or more of a toy? Are you building a battleship or do you just wanna cruise a few fire roads from time to time?

Are you gonna scream if I ask one more question?

So...whassup, yo?
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Old 03-24-2012, 04:09 PM   #4
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Wolf pretty much nailed everything I would ask/say, so I have nothing to add here. :d
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Old 03-24-2012, 04:11 PM   #5
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I'm not being mean, Vas. Just need more info to help out.

On another note, had my ZZR 600 back on the road the last couple weeks. Never had it in service before April since I've lived in WI. Pretty cool.
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i'm not being mean, vas. Just need more info to help out.

on another note, had my zzr 600 back on the road the last couple weeks. Never had it in service before april since i've lived in wi. Pretty cool.
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Don't got with a cheap lift. By cheap, I don't mean inexpensive. The RK long arm kits are, by most accounts, really nice. But, like you said, gotta be welded.

What size lift are you looking at, and why? How often do you anticipate wheeling, and in what terrain? What size tires you wanna run? Is your Jeep a DD or more of a toy? Are you building a battleship or do you just wanna cruise a few fire roads from time to time?

Are you gonna scream if I ask one more question?

So...whassup, yo?
Well I'm thinking the 5.5" long arm by RK I'm going to run 35's at first. Then move up to 37's after I re gear. Maybe. I know they make a 5.5" mid arm which from what I can tell is all bolt on, so I could do that my self with the help of a buddy. I do plan on wheeling a lot when I am off of work, work 28 days on a boat and 14 at home. It will be used a lot for around town but also want to do some hardcore wheeling. When the wife will let me. Lol and also plan on maybe taking a few road trips in it.
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Can't wait to get my zx10r out. If the wife lets me. She wants me to stop riding since we got married. That the whole reason of getting the jeep.
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Well I'm thinking the 5.5" long arm by RK I'm going to run 35's at first. Then move up to 37's after I re gear. Maybe. I know they make a 5.5" mid arm which from what I can tell is all bolt on, so I could do that my self with the help of a buddy. I do plan on wheeling a lot when I am off of work, work 28 days on a boat and 14 at home. It will be used a lot for around town but also want to do some hardcore wheeling. When the wife will let me. Lol and also plan on maybe taking a few road trips in it.
That's like a $2500 lift! Would definitely be badass though. Might as well go ahead and throw a regear in there as well as driveshaft(s). Or go for that long arm coil over setup at $5k! lol

I'm not sure I would go with a 5.5" lift and 35s though. A lift that big is usually ran with 37"-40" tires. A 3" lift and flat fenders would allow plenty of clearance for 37s.
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Well I'm thinking the 5.5" long arm by RK I'm going to run 35's at first. Then move up to 37's after I re gear. Maybe. I know they make a 5.5" mid arm which from what I can tell is all bolt on, so I could do that my self with the help of a buddy. I do plan on wheeling a lot when I am off of work, work 28 days on a boat and 14 at home. It will be used a lot for around town but also want to do some hardcore wheeling. When the wife will let me. Lol and also plan on maybe taking a few road trips in it.


First of all, you don't need anywhere near that high a lift to run 35's, or even 37's. You're looking at several thousands of $$ just for the lift with an RK mid- or long-arm system. But I think you probably know that.

Still, whether that's what you need, or simply what you want, it's up to you. I can't deny that RK's mid- and long-arm systems rock.

If you decide to go that route, this is what I would do: Get an RK mid-arm system initially (not necessarily 5.5"...I think that's overkill), install it yourself and run it with the 35's for awhile. Then, if / when you decide to go with 37's (which the mid-arm will still accommodate, btw) run it for a little bit and see whether or not it'll still do the job for the way you use your rig.

Good thing about the mid-arm is, you can upgrade it to the long-arm later on. Not without cost, of course, but you'll have some of the basics in place.

Before you decide, however, take a look at lifts by Clayton and Full Traction (if you haven't already). And don't worry so much about lift height...3" with flatties will clear 37's, and maintain a decent ctr of gravity. No point really going much above that unless you want skyscraper suspension; the tires dictate your ground clearance. The lift just allows you to run the larger tires.

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Clayton Off Road - Jeep Lift Kits - Jeep Cherokee Lift Kits - Jeep Wrangler Lift Kits - Jeep Suspension Lift Kits

Full-Traction Suspension - Suspension Lift Kits and Systems
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Old 03-24-2012, 04:58 PM   #11
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Can't wait to get my zx10r out. If the wife lets me. She wants me to stop riding since we got married. That the whole reason of getting the jeep.
Dude, that's why prenups exist.

Non-negotiable in my mind.
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I'm not sure I would go with a 5.5" lift and 35s though. A lift that big is usually ran with 37"-40" tires. A 3" lift and flat fenders would allow plenty of clearance for 37s.
^^^ What 4fit said.
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Okay thanks for the info, I'm sure I'll be going with the RK 3.5 mid arm to start with. With this will I have to do anything with the driveshafts? Or can I get by with it?
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Dude, that's why prenups exist.

Non-negotiable in my mind.
Oh I thought hard about a prenup, and she even said she would sing one. That's when I mad the mistake and didn't do it. She just don't want me on sport bikes anymore, and not to do track days. But I can get a chopper.
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Oh I thought hard about a prenup, and she even said she would sing one. That's when I mad the mistake and didn't do it. She just don't want me on sport bikes anymore, and not to do track days. But I can get a chopper.
We all get out-maneuvered from time to time.
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Okay thanks for the info, I'm sure I'll be going with the RK 3.5 mid arm to start with. With this will I have to do anything with the driveshafts? Or can I get by with it?
You know, that's something I'm not sure of...how a mid- or long-arm lift will affect the driveshafts. If I had to guess, I'd say you'll need at least a new front, simply because the 3.5" will lift your Jeep and put the ds at a fairly severe angle. Whether or not it'll cause the same potential for contact between the stock ds and the exhaust pipe, I can't really say. The angles with a mid-arm lift are gonna be a little different than with a standard lift.

Budget for it, and if you find out otherwise, throw that $$ into another mod.

Or take your wife out to dinner and talk her into letting you keep your sport bike. A food post-nup.
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Another thing that hasn't been mentioned: You're gonna have to address your front axle, one way or the other. Don't know if you've got a Rubi or one of the other models, but for 35's/37's you'll wanna look into either a sleeve & gusset job (more welding) or a chromoly axle. And possibly even a larger axle (depending on what you've got) for the 37's.

And a rear bumper w/tire carrier.
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Another thing that hasn't been mentioned: You're gonna have to address your front axle, one way or the other. Don't know if you've got a Rubi or one of the other models, but for 35's/37's you'll wanna look into either a sleeve & gusset job (more welding) or a chromoly axle. And possibly even a larger axle (depending on what you've got) for the 37's.

And a rear bumper w/tire carrier.
I was hoping with a 35 I wouldn't have to do anything to the axle. So from the sound of it I'll have to have a shop install it.

And I already found the bumper I want by lod. Back and front bumper and rock sliders.
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I was hoping with a 35 I wouldn't have to do anything to the axle. So from the sound of it I'll have to have a shop install it.

And I already found the bumper I want by lod. Back and front bumper and rock sliders.
If you are really going to be doing that hardcore wheeling like you said, then I would absolutely reinforce that axle, no question about it. Even if you have a D44, I would still do it. Or, like wolf said, could always upgrade to a ProRock or Dynatrac. But when I think hardcore, I think serious Moab trails, carnage canyon, Rubicon, etc. Your definition of hardcore might not be as extreme as mine.
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I was hoping with a 35 I wouldn't have to do anything to the axle. So from the sound of it I'll have to have a shop install it.
If you've got a Rubi (Dana 44...your profile doesn't say, and you haven't said) you're much better equipped to run 35's than with the Dana 30 (other models). Either way, if you plan on going up to 37's, you're gonna have to deal with it.

Don't know what you're looking at from LoD, but this version of their rear bumper should do everything you want, and cook your dinner, to boot.

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I just have a spot so guess it a dana 30.

And that's the bumper I want!!! Was also looking at Smitty bilt which is a lot cheaper. But the lod just seems like the one for me.

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