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Old 02-16-2013, 06:09 PM   #1
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Stock JK Tire Carrier Question...

What's the biggest tire the stock tire carrier can handle?

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Old 02-16-2013, 06:12 PM   #2
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32". It is rated for 50 lbs which is about the weight of the stock 32" wheel and tire. You can put a 33" on there but will need an extended bump stop and will exceed the 50 lb limit. Would probably be OK on road but off it will eventually put stress on your tailgate and hinges.

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Old 02-16-2013, 06:22 PM   #3
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Yeah but there's enough indentation for a 35.... Does anyone out there put a 35 on it?
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I have a 33 on there. The wheel and tire combo weighs less than the stock Rubi setup. I have no issues nor needed any special hardware.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:43 PM   #5
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Over the years I've seen plenty of posts where people used 35 inch tire on the stock carrier. Sometimes it works, sometimes it cracks, sometimes it pulls on the welds on the hinge. Your best bet is to stick with the 50 lb limit on the carrier otherwise you are just rolling the dice on whether or not your carrier/tailgate will hold.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:59 PM   #6
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Surely you mean 50 extra lbs.??? A stock wheel and tire weigh more than 50 lbs...
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:12 PM   #7
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My setup: 285/75/17 KM2's at 62 lbs. eavh.. and AEV Pintlers @ 24 lbs. each.. for a total weight of 86 lbs. for each tire/wheel combo.. Surely the tailgate can handle 86 lbs. ?!?! If not, these cars were built for wimps... Flat out.
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I'm a little concerned here too... Where did you get 50 lbs from? I am planning on getting DT's later on... If I remember correctly, they weigh 50 lbs without a wheel!



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Old 02-16-2013, 07:17 PM   #9
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i have a 35 on .... no issues but I am also developing a carrier with a simular operation as to the teraflex hd
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:18 PM   #10
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Oh my 35's are BFG km2 they are on the light side and smaller side of 35's
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:18 PM   #11
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The 50lb weight limit is stated in the OM I believe
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:28 PM   #12
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I've got 285 BFG ko's with AVE Savegre's. I didn't want to buy an aftermarket bumper/carrier now, so I took off the stock carrier and keep my tire in the back. I've read too many warnings about door sag/weld breaks with heavier tires on the stock carrier.

I've read it takes some time before something happens but by then it's too late.

I wasn't willing to take a chance.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:32 PM   #13
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The Dueler tires that come stock on a Sahara tip the scales at around 45 lbs... I don't know about this 50 lb weight limit... Anybody have a page in the manual? I have the PDF and couldn't find it...

If it is 50 lbs, Jeep is probably just trying to cover their you-know-whats just in case someone throws on some 35's and it damages the gate... I call shenanigans on Jeep with this one if it is indeed 50 lbs.
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i have a 35 on .... no issues but I am also developing a carrier with a simular operation as to the teraflex hd
No issues, yet you're developing a carrier..
Why?

If this tailgate can't handle 86 lbs. in total, meaning you have to buy reinforcements or new bumpers, then this vehicle, the Jeep, is for pussies. Sorry.
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The Dueler tires that come stock on a Sahara tip the scales at around 45 lbs... I don't know about this 50 lb weight limit... Anybody have a page in the manual? I have the PDF and couldn't find it...

If it is 50 lbs, Jeep is probably just trying to cover their you-know-whats just in case someone throws on some 35's and it damages the gate... I call shenanigans on Jeep with this one if it is indeed 50 lbs.
And...the stock Moab wheels are about on par weight-wise with AEV Pintlers! So basically, my KM2 weighs 17 lbs. more than the Sahara tire--that's all the extra weight, 17 lbs., that's on my tailgate...

And now I should be thinking of a tire carrier??? What, to go along with all the other numerous things that should've come stock from the factory??? Let's see: a lift, bigger tires/rims, door sill guards, hood locks, gas cap cover/lock, tinted windows (the fronts), etc... I like my Jeep, but the whole situation is annoying as hell sometimes...
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The weight of the Sahara tire is 45 lbs, so i can only add 5 lbs in accessories??? That makes no sense. The manual has been worded incorrectly. Think about that...It just makes no sense???? Lol
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On a serious note, I'd like to hear from someone mechanically-inclined, like an engineer, not just some Jeep slappy or apologist...

Please answer me this: Will 17 lbs. extra warp my tailgate or its hinges over time?
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The silence is deafening...
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:33 PM   #20
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The weight of the Sahara tire is 45 lbs, so i can only add 5 lbs in accessories??? That makes no sense. The manual has been worded incorrectly. Think about that...It just makes no sense???? Lol
That's 45 lbs WITHOUT a wheel (Does Jeep use the lightest 18" alloy wheels EVER?)... I agree on the wording or something's up...
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Your answer................. If you hit the right dip at the right angle you WILL start popping the spot welds on the inside of the tailgate.......I have seen it in person, not mine but a guy I know that is a little more abusive on his jeep than I am. Hope that helps you a little. Also you can find the pictures of the welds popping on another web site.

P.S. We have been running 35's on our stock spare tire holder for about 2-3 years now. BFG KM2's......but I most likely would not with a 35" Toyo tire. I'd have to see how much heavier the toyo is. PARTY ON !!!!!
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Your answer................. If you hit the right dip at the right angle you WILL start popping the spot welds on the inside of the tailgate.......I have seen it in person, not mine but a guy I know that is a little more abusive on his jeep than I am. Hope that helps you a little. Also you can find the pictures of the welds popping on another web site.

P.S. We have been running 35's on our stock spare tire holder for about 2-3 years now. BFG KM2's......but I most likely would not with a 35" Toyo tire. I'd have to see how much heavier the toyo is. PARTY ON !!!!!
Obviously, you're not too worried about popping welds then...
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What's a stock Rubi wheel/tire combo...mid-70's (lbs.)...?

I think these carriers can handle 100 lbs without issue...
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Plenty of people hang 35's on the stock carrier without a problem. I wouldn't do it with 35" Nittos though
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What's a stock Rubi wheel/tire combo...mid-70's (lbs.)...?

I think these carriers can handle 100 lbs without issue...
According to specs, the LT255/75R17 BFGoodrich Mud Terrain runs right at 48 lbs... Add about 25 lbs for a stock 17" alloy wheel and you are looking right at around 73 lbs... A far cry from Jeep's own recommendation of 50 lbs.
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According to specs, the LT255/75R17 BFGoodrich Mud Terrain runs right at 48 lbs... Add about 25 lbs for a stock 17" alloy wheel and you are looking right at around 73 lbs... A far cry from Jeep's own recommendation of 50 lbs.
Right on. So if Jeep is willing to throw 73 pounds on the back of a Rubi out of the factory, then anyone putting 100 pounds or less on a stock tire carrier should be fine and well within its capabilities.
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How about this? Does the bumpstop have to be touching the tire at rest, or just be close to it?
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Will it makes me feel a little safer if Jeep is putting 73 lbs on it. My new 35's are 67 lbs and the MB's are 20 lbs for 87 lbs total. So they are only 14lbs more then stock. Still getting the Teraflex HD Hinged Carrier soon though just in case but the stock carrier should hold till then
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How about this? Does the bumpstop have to be touching the tire at rest, or just be close to it?
Mine doesn't touch and there's no issue.
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Mine is on the back and is resting right on the bumper. I am however worried it will do damage eventually and I am thinking about either mounting somehow inside or getting a bumper with a carrier.

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