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Old 03-26-2012, 09:14 PM   #1
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Question Stock Rubi Unlimited - What Can't it Do?

Hi folks,

I am a new Rubi owner and want to know, what can this thing do out of the box? The reason for the question is that I am trying to prioritize upgrades/enhancements and I can't buy everthing all at once ! So, I am figuring I should focus on recovery equipment first (winch, high-jack, etc.) and also some major conveniences such as air compressor, CB (some would say an neccessity), and extra fuel containers (mounted where?).

I would love to hear what you all think about where I would get the most for the hard earned investment.

A little background: I am in Norhtern Colorado and intend to hit the local trails first. Some are challenging, but most have bypasses, if I need them. I know I want to get out and enjoy the trails as soon as possible, but I can't afford to drop $2K or $3K at one pop to make it happen (over time, sure, but not all at once). So what should I focus on first?

I am also intereted in brand recommendations, but I don't want to start a brand war, so your opinions are welcome, as long as they aren't opinions about other peoples opinions

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Probably can't scale the north face of Eiger.

Probably.

Somebody else may show up here in a few mins and set me straight, but...

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Well, I guess before I tackle the Eiger, I should get a parascope air intake, so's I can cross the Atlantic!

THanks for the welcome! I really like this forum!
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Might think of a lift for clearance. Colorado has some pretty rough trails. Still like wolfs bumper.
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Where in northern CO? I'm headed up to Estes Park this weekend trying to find some trails. It seems like everything is closed for winter though
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Well, I guess before I tackle the Eiger, I should get a parascope air intake, so's I can cross the Atlantic!

THanks for the welcome! I really like this forum!
I believe he '12 has addressed the periscope issue, if only to really piss off peeps with earlier models. Could be wrong.
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Well, it can't float !

You should just go with some other buddies and learn a little about all your added trinkets--

Then you'll know what mods are NEEDED, if any !

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Get some skids to protect the underside. Especially if you have an Auto with the tranny cooler lines running exposed under the tranny.

I did a Jeep Jamboree two months after buying mine and was amazed what it will do stock. I was running trails with lifted rigs only difference was I'd get hung up more often and have to take a better line.

It is hard to hear it dragging through the rocks on a $39K vehicle and hadn't even made two payments yet. Good luck!!
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Well, it can't float !

You should just go with some other buddies and learn a little about all your added trinkets--

Then you'll know what mods are NEEDED, if any !

Good luck

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Good advice. I haven't been able to get out yet, but have plans to in the near future. i am also enrolled in a Bill Burke class in May. THat should alos help.
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Get some skids to protect the underside. Especially if you have an Auto with the tranny cooler lines running exposed under the tranny.

I did a Jeep Jamboree two months after buying mine and was amazed what it will do stock. I was running trails with lifted rigs only difference was I'd get hung up more often and have to take a better line.

It is hard to hear it dragging through the rocks on a $39K vehicle and hadn't even made two payments yet. Good luck!!
Also good advice (about the tranny lines - I do have the automatic). And yes, I do cringe at the thought of the first grinds over the rocks, but hey, I didn't buy it for the pretty undercoating.
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You asked what the first thing you should focus on is. IMO it should be your driving skills. Go out with your stock Jeep on some trails with experienced drivers or even take an off road course. So many people think that the first thing they need is a winch. The first thing you need to learn are your own capabilities. Don't worry about a winch until you are ready to wheel alone.

Start out with recovery gear and armor. Then progress from there.
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Where in northern CO? I'm headed up to Estes Park this weekend trying to find some trails. It seems like everything is closed for winter though
I'm just outside of Loveland. Most of the trails above 9000 ft are closed until June at the earliest, but there are some lower trails (thin Boulder canyon or Big Thompson Canyon - before you get to Estes Park). There are also a couple of trails in Medicine Bow just across the border in Wyoming that might be passable this time of year.
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You asked what the first thing you should focus on is. IMO it should be your driving skills. Go out with your stock Jeep on some trails with experienced drivers or even take an off road course. So many people think that the first thing they need is a winch. The first thing you need to learn are your own capabilities. Don't worry about a winch until you are ready to wheel alone.

Start out with recovery gear and armor. Then progress from there.
Yep. Couldn't agree more. I am enrolled in the Bill Burke course coming up in May. Any opinions on his classes?
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Good advice. I haven't been able to get out yet, but have plans to in the near future. i am also enrolled in a Bill Burke class in May. THat should alos help.
Bill Burke? That guy owes me money!

Seriously, man. Take off the doors. Remove the top. Find a dirt road (legal, please) and let 'er rip. No need to pay somebody for it, IMO. You're in one of the most capable off-road rigs on the planet...Enjoy!

No classroom necessary, even from such a world-class off roader as smiling Bill!

You think I'm ragging on you. I can sense it.

But you're wrong. I can be a touch sarcastic, but aren't we all? Anyway... Look around. Click on links and read. Use the Search function. INVESTIGATE!

Daggo's advice in post #12 is sound.
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But you're wrong. I can be a touch sarcastic, but aren't we all?

Not me.
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it wont get 40 mpg.
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it wont get 40 mpg.
Lucky to get half that
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well...the stock sport can apparently do a ton after reading this review Sitemap - Autoblog maybe multiply that by a couple best I can help!
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Absolutely. I wouldn't upgrade a danged thing until you repeatedly find you need it. Money cannot buy off-road experience. I would however buy recovery gear and always go off-roading with a friend.

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You asked what the first thing you should focus on is. IMO it should be your driving skills. Go out with your stock Jeep on some trails with experienced drivers or even take an off road course. So many people think that the first thing they need is a winch. The first thing you need to learn are your own capabilities. Don't worry about a winch until you are ready to wheel alone.

Start out with recovery gear and armor. Then progress from there.
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Out of the box it will scare the carp out of you in capable hands.

Depends FTW!

Some basics...

Hi-lift, swag mount, chain for winching etc etc etc etc
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I'm just outside of Loveland. Most of the trails above 9000 ft are closed until June at the earliest, but there are some lower trails (thin Boulder canyon or Big Thompson Canyon - before you get to Estes Park). There are also a couple of trails in Medicine Bow just across the border in Wyoming that might be passable this time of year.
I thought for sure things would be opening up soon because of the total lack of snow, guess it's still hanging around from February

It's not difficult, but old Fall River Road in RMNP should be fun when it opens
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What skid plates would people recommend as adding first? Tranny and the front steering/sway bar one?
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I know skids were mentioned and I like the reasoning that it protects the undercarriage from scrapes and damage. However, I am probably a little more anal about things and would rather not be up against my skids if I was being honest. I would rather get a little lift and some larger tires to get over the obstacles rather than slide over them along with some recovery items so that "just in case" you get stuck you can get you and your loved ones back safely.

Everyone's thoughts are different as far as equipment but my funds were dispersed by the following:
* Safety/recovery. Winch/compressor combo.
* Lift and tires/wheels to get some altitude to go over the obstacles.
* Re-gear to get my mechanical advantage back that was lost with larger tires.
* Beefed up axles (front & rear), front axle housing and driveshafts.
* Dual battery setup.
Then some cosmetics and a few other "custom" touches. Continuing as a Jeep is never really "done".

As far as hiring someone to teach you driving skills, you could probably get some good pointers just by going with some experienced trail runners from your area. It seems whenever we go there are all ranges of driver experience and I don't have any problems with newbies asking questions and trying to help them.

I look at it as I was a newbie once so if I can help someone else then great. I am sure there are more people like this out there as well.

For the most part a stock Rubicon is a very capable unit. Mods are just to get a little further a little quicker and with a few less scrapes and scratches.

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I thought for sure things would be opening up soon because of the total lack of snow, guess it's still hanging around from February

It's not difficult, but old Fall River Road in RMNP should be fun when it opens
Fall River Road in RMNP is a beautifull drive, but not much of an offroad adventure. Lots of cars even go up there.
Your Jeep is more than capable of something a little more exciting, even first time out. I would suggest something along the lines of.
Old Flowers Road, right out of Fort Collins Co. TrailDamage.com - Old Flowers Road. My son and I took a stock 4x4 Ford Ranger, so the Jeep is more than you'll need for this trail.
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Out of the box it will scare the carp out of you in capable hands...
I tell ya what........I would be mighty pissed off if my new Rubicon caused one of these to come out of one of my orifices!
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I tell ya what........I would be mighty pissed off if my new Rubicon caused one of these to come out of one of my orifices!


I actually laughed out load after seeing/reading that. I didn't pick up on that when I read it in the post.

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Depending on how your going to go offroading (by yourself, night, etc.), my thoughts were winch and more lighting.

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