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Old 07-11-2013, 12:27 PM   #1
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Stock tires for winter

Hi Everyone,
I have a 2013 JK. I was wondering if the stock tires can handle winter snow. I'm in the North East, which has heavy winters at times.

i ask because I do not see any sips on the stock tires.

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Do you have a Sport, Sport S, Sahara, or Rubi?

Some handle snow/ice better than others. But not matter what, a Wrangler can usually handle winter if you drive smart.

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I have a Rubi. Sorry did not mention it earlier.
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Have had no issues w/ our first '08 JKUS or our current '10 JKUR. The Rubicon is worse in the rain though.
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It is really about sipes on wet surfaces.

Just in case this pops up again......

OEM tires by model.

Goodyear Wrangler ST (base Sport)



Goodyear Wrangler SR-A (Sport S/Freedom Edition)


Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor (Moab)



Bridgestone Dueler A/T RH-S (Sahara)


BFGoodrich MT T/A KM (Rubicon)


BFGoodrich MT T/A KM2 (Rubicon 10A)
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It is really about sipes on wet surfaces.
Had always intended to take the thing in and get the KM's siped but hadn't gotten around to it and now we've ordered the new one.
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Thanks for the pictures and labeling them.

Looks like the Rubi has no sipes. I used to have snow tired form my Mazda and they were all siped.
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The MT tires on the Rubicon are not good for packed snow and ice. Yes, you can use them and they aren't outright dangerous but they are far from optimal. If you take it easy and slow you should be ok. If you drive like an idiot you will end on a ditch and/or rear end someone.
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Thanks for the pictures and labeling them.

Looks like the Rubi has no sipes. I used to have snow tired form my Mazda and they were all siped.
Yup, sipes make all the different in the world.
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It is really about sipes on wet surfaces.

Just in case this pops up again......

OEM tires by model.

Goodyear Wrangler ST (base Sport)

Goodyear Wrangler SR-A (Sport S/Freedom Edition)

Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor (Moab)

Bridgestone Dueler A/T RH-S (Sahara)

BFGoodrich MT T/A KM (Rubicon)

BFGoodrich MT T/A KM2 (Rubicon 10A)
Just learned some good stuff. Thanks :-) but what does moab mean
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The stock Rubi BFG MTs suck in all but deep snow- terrible on ice and packed snow. I switched them out for the Goodyear Silent Armor ATs which I am using all year around. Great tires- quiet, good in rain and great in winter (lots of siping).

By the way, "but what does moab mean" Surely you jest. Aside from being a Jeep Wrangler special edition model, Moab (as in Utah) is where the wheeling angels go- Off road heaven.
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If you want the last tire you''ll ever buy, get Nokian's. Ever since I bought them about 6 years ago. I'll never use another tire. You really can't debate a Finnish company that holds pretty much every significant patent on tires when it comes to snow and inclement weather performance. Link: http://www.nokiantires.com/
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I bought Goodyear Duratracs for my first winter in Utah this year. I thought my Nitto Terra Grapplers would be good because they're siped like crazy, But they actually scared me on packed snow when I was up north visiting family last winter. So Nitto's go bye bye.
I don't have room in the garage for an extra set of winter tires. Duratracs are severe weather rated and pre drilled for studs.
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i drove my (new last Nov) 13 rubi from Nov thru May here in the Canadian prairie and like others have said the bfg mt km's are not ideal without siping but they'll pass if you drive carefully. Now that i have 8000 miles on them they're looking a little less ideal as the edges have started to wear so i don't think i'll go another winter with them. Likely going to pick up the Duratracs or maybe BFG ATs since Costco has them at a reasonable price.
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Just learned some good stuff. Thanks :-) but what does moab mean
Moab is both Jeep Mecca, and one of the 2013 Wrangler special editions.

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the 225/75r16 has more space for water to escape from the tread while the others are not like that, all the bad reviews I have read are the bigger sizes which are not as good. I don't know why they are different but they are. the ones pictured above are a bigger size, not the 225/75r16, the 225/75r16 does have more than the one pictured above.
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Learned some great stuff, thanks for these pics! Was wondering why my bfgs MT werent the greatest. the pics clarified that for me. never realized they had no sipes! since i got my jeep in the summer i didnt realize their performance in the snow for quite some time. Thanks for the pics, plus pointing out some good tires. Probably gonna try to get the duratracs for next winter or something very similar.
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Only question in reference to tire Pics do all Saharas have the same tires no matter which "Edition"?
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Only question in reference to tire Pics do all Saharas have the same tires no matter which "Edition"?
The 2013 Moab was the only Sahara based special edition that didn't come with the standard Bridgestones. That one came with GY Silent Armors. I almost got one of those editions because of the tires.
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If you want the last tire you''ll ever buy, get Nokian's. Ever since I bought them about 6 years ago. I'll never use another tire. You really can't debate a Finnish company that holds pretty much every significant patent on tires when it comes to snow and inclement weather performance. Link: Nokian Tires - The best winter tires for northern conditions / Nokian Tires
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Nokian Hakkapeliitta Is the best winter tire in the world, bar none... If I had a RWD only vehicle like a mustang or vette etc.. These would be a must in the snow.....

I dont know if they make them in sizes the JKUs fit. I know the Stock SRA was good on the snow....

Until I burried the bumper, frame and axles in the snow that is
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Would love to see stock Sahara Bridgestone Dueler A/T RH-S versus Duratrac on ice and light snow. Suspect the Bridgestone might be better. BUT in deeper snow, no doubt the Duratrac would be superior.
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Would love to see stock Sahara Bridgestone Dueler A/T RH-S versus Duratrac on ice and light snow. Suspect the Bridgestone might be better. BUT in deeper snow, no doubt the Duratrac would be superior.
I would be interested in that as well.

Here are the Duratracs. While not stock, they finally come in stock sizes.

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Would love to see stock Sahara Bridgestone Dueler A/T RH-S versus Duratrac on ice and light snow. Suspect the Bridgestone might be better. BUT in deeper snow, no doubt the Duratrac would be superior.
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I would be interested in that as well.

Here are the Duratracs. While not stock, they finally come in stock sizes.

I can get REAL CLOSE...and IMO, now that I am "trusting" the TC in the JK the Duratracs are better.
Before I was driving the '12 JK Sport like I used to drive my '04 TJ in that you "paid attention" when starting out and if you started to feel a tire slip you got out of the gas. Granted the TJ was a 5 speed and the JK is an Auto, but after I put Duratracs on the JK I wanted to see if it changed how it drove very much. So I didn't back out of the gas when we had 3"s wet snow and more falling, with ruts on the main road. I just put it in 4hi and drove it like the pavement was dry, and it performed as if it was. Granted I could feel the "nanny controls" sometimes, but it is very easy to drive the JK more aggressively in the snow with Duratracs.

The reason I say I can do the comparrison...my wife's DD is a '14 JKU POLAR edition...with the Bridgestones...and last Winter, and a couple times this winter, I have driven the Polar in the snow.

Now they are not EXACTLY the same..one is a JK Sport and the other is a JKU Sahara with a HT and fairly loaded...so a much heavier vehicle....and the SPort is now on an OME 2" Sl with a heavier front bumper and a winch....IMO those things do make a difference. Bottom line when the JKU needs tires, in another year or so, yep Duratracs for it as well. They working fine for me!!
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