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Old 09-26-2011, 03:30 PM   #1
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Looking for recommendations

I'm planning on swapping out the bulbs in my factory fogs with yellow ones and then getting the mopar/rugged ridge light bar for a set of 6" street legal driving lights in white. I don't want to spend the cash for HID.

i prefer metal housing, shock resitant, stone guards, black (non chrome). I've used various vendor off-road lights before in the past on trucks, but not street legal ones.

any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old 09-26-2011, 04:07 PM   #2
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I would recommend upgrading the stock headlights...I have a bunch of aux. lights on my JK that never get used anymore.

The H4 upgrade was by far the best lighting upgrade that I've done, the rallylights.com kit is about $215 and that's with a bulb upgrade, I'm running Cibies now, but the Hellas that came in the kit are great lights...

This is just for you to consider....the kit is legal too(E code).

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Old 09-26-2011, 04:25 PM   #3
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I would recommend upgrading the stock headlights...
Do oncoming drivers flash their brights at you thinking your lights are on bright?

Happens to me in my '07 with stock headlights and no lift.
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Careful

Careful swapping the fogs out, too much wattage will melt the housing unless you are swapping out the entire assembly. Plus there are new laws on foglights too. I plan on swapping my headlight bulbs out too for the sylvania ones.

I run a Mopar bumper light bar and 2 Warn 6.5 inch remote lights they put off plenty of light and doesn't blind too many people as they are coming. They are also legal in most states @ 55 watts. The remote switch is nice because you don't have to drill any holes in the dash.
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:06 PM   #5
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Do oncoming drivers flash their brights at you thinking your lights are on bright?

Happens to me in my '07 with stock headlights and no lift.
The Cibies are so well focused that there is no stray light....the pattern is perfect(IMO).

I should add, these are H4's....

Here's a pic of all three, from left, Hella, Cibie, stock..the diffusion on the Cibie and Hella really aims the light well, the stock has no diffusion. I've run all three and there is quite a difference.

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Old 09-26-2011, 05:08 PM   #6
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Has anyone else put amber bulbs in their fogs? I thought that might be an interesting change.

I plam on changing out my stock headlight bulbs BUT........I wonder weather the Sylvanias are a reasonable option to the higher cost Phillips . I had the Syl's in my Nissan Frontier and they were a big improvement.
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:19 PM   #7
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The only about putting ambers in your fogs is that you can't increase the wattage by too much because of the limitations of the fog housing and the melting factor. Ambers will reduce the actual light output of the dim fogs already, but I think they would look good from the front though.

Not sure if I want to spend the extra money on Philips vs. Sylvania, I haven't seen any comparisons yet.
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:24 PM   #8
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I Changed out my whole light to the pilot lights from autozone and put 85 watt piaa fog light bulbs .great improvement , been in there for over a year now with no problems
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Is there is a difference between the 2010 vs 2011 fog light assembly? I had heard that the 2 were different. 85 watt amber fogs would be great.

Here are the Warns that I added to mine.
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No they switches in 2010 from 09 heres a pic its just getting dusk
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Nice... I will have to look into changing mine out. I might go with amber though cause of all the snow we get here.
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Like the idea of the wireless lights. Not too fond of the housings. Does anyone else make the wireless lights?
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http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/ here is a thread that i touch on before hope the link works doing this from my iphone
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Like the idea of the wireless lights. Not too fond of the housings. Does anyone else make the wireless lights?

The housings aren't bad, a little narrow yes, but the reflectors ar good and show a lot of light about 400ft or so. I have had them about 2 weeks and they seem to hold up well. Had them through some water and no leaks in them. I think Warn is the only ones who make a wireless light and it is easy to install. The Mopar bar is a little shaky though cause it is a bolt on.
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Nope didnt work just search " pilot lights"
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The housings aren't bad, a little narrow yes, but the reflectors ar good and show a lot of light about 400ft or so.
Do you think the horizontal "deflectors" can be removed with no problems?
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For on-road, I use "Navigators" and LUMINICs-yellow for the headlites--stock fogers



Off -road KC Daylighters and all the mod lights are rotatable 180°-



Ain't it just peachy keen ??

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Do you think the horizontal "deflectors" can be removed with no problems?

yes they are just plastic clip ons with screw tighteners. They come off in a snap and could probably be swapped out with whatever you wanted to replace it with.
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That really does look awesome 'JIMBO........really wicked. Luv it! I removed the JEEP logo and the front looks a LOT cleaner MHO.....
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Wait a minute cu in, thats like driving without your drivers license--if a cop stops you, how's he gonna know WHO YOU ARE and what you're driving-


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That really does look awesome 'JIMBO........really wicked. Luv it! I removed the JEEP logo and the front looks a LOT cleaner MHO.....
It' all come out in the wash-

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I upgraded my factory headlights to the Delta Quad. Love the look of the housing, but the bulb sucked. So, I put in the new sylvania zxe bulbs and it is awesome!!!
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Looking for recommendations

I'm planning on swapping out the bulbs in my factory fogs with yellow ones and then getting the mopar/rugged ridge light bar for a set of 6" street legal driving lights in white. I don't want to spend the cash for HID.

i prefer metal housing, shock resitant, stone guards, black (non chrome). I've used various vendor off-road lights before in the past on trucks, but not street legal ones.

any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Buy or build a harness that goes to the battery vice the CANBUS. Then upgrade to the Cibie or Hella H4. With Hella 60/55 the light is a huge improvement. If it isn't enough then get some Osram bulbs. I have a set of Hella 100/80W bulbs from Amazon for < $12 a pair! Driving lights may not be needed with real headlights!
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I'm looking at swapping out the fog light bulbs only, not the lights themselves. I seem to be doing a lot more driving in fog. Yellow/amber bulbs seem to reflect less in fog (same as for snow, but i don't worry much about snow in GA). I'd keep the same wattage so no worries about melting anything or blowing any fuses.

The fogs on my jeep are perhaps the best factory fogs I've ever had on a vehicle, i'd rather drive with my fogs on than the high beams. For this reason, that's why I want to add a light bar with street legal driving (white) lights.

Have the best of both worlds, yellow/amber for fog/snow (I have family in midwest I sometimes visit in winter) and white for general night driving.

I was trying to find something in the 55w range. I just like the look of the black housing and stone guards.

Then for the little off roading I do (forest service/wildlife management area), a set of 100W off road lights mounted to the windshield would be a good addition to the driving lights I put on the light bar.

Pilot I think makes a wireless kit, saw it at the local pepboys. The pepboys here sells a few models of kc and hella lights. I thought about going wireless, then I saw someone put the switch in the a pilar, that's a cool idea so I may go that route.

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Has anyone else put amber bulbs in their fogs? I thought that might be an interesting change.

I plam on changing out my stock headlight bulbs BUT........I wonder weather the Sylvanias are a reasonable option to the higher cost Phillips . I had the Syl's in my Nissan Frontier and they were a big improvement.
I did amber lamin-x, since no alternative exists for the 2010-up fog bulbs. for driving lights, i went with a set of IPF 968's. pics are in my jeep profile (no shots with the lamin-x yet)
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Dammit I never should have clicked on this thread.... after looking at it I went to Amazon and got new bulbs for my headlights, brackets for lights next to my wind sheild and some KC lights to put on.
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Dammit I never should have clicked on this thread.... after looking at it I went to Amazon and got new bulbs for my headlights, brackets for lights next to my wind sheild and some KC lights to put on.
Always makes you want to buy something more.
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I did amber lamin-x, since no alternative exists for the 2010-up fog bulbs. for driving lights, i went with a set of IPF 968's. pics are in my jeep profile (no shots with the lamin-x yet)
How is the lamin--x? I thought about doing that to mine.
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I know what you mean so far this forum has cost me hundreds of dollars and I'm nowhere near set ....

AND I've learned to read my owners manual (which the forum told me about also)........

Today I made several shifts into 6th and didn't have a problem.........will it ever end?
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How is the lamin--x? I thought about doing that to mine.
It worked out great, actually. Great lens protection and a nice amber color for fog and snow. Pretty easy to cut and apply as well. I highly recommend it.
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It worked out great, actually. Great lens protection and a nice amber color for fog and snow. Pretty easy to cut and apply as well. I highly recommend it.
Cool thanks. I will give it a try

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