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Old 09-20-2010, 11:25 AM   #1
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Stuck then caught in flashflood

This happened a while back but I thought I would share my story with this site too. Ignore anything such as "yesterday" etc as this happened in July.
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So me and my buddy went off-roading yesterday and I recently found this great area to do such a thing.
There's a wide open field with some big hills but you also got your trails that go back into the woods.
Well I followed this trail into the woods, and to make a long story short I went down a small steep hill, which is pictured below.



So I get down there and it's a nice area and below is a picture of what it looked like.


We hung around there for a little bit and decided to go ahead and try to leave. So I put my Sahara in 4-low and try to get back up that hill. Well the hill is mostly wet sand so I wasn't getting any traction there. I found this other place but i ended up getting me stuck. See picture below:


We tried and tried to get that thing off of there but it just wouldn't move. I ended up messing up my transmission to the point where it wouldn't go in gear. So we called some friends and we got this one guy over there but he wasn't able to do anything and then it started raining. So we all ran back to his car, leaving my Jeep there by the river....alone.
We start heading down the road and it absolutely starts pouring rain down. 3.2" of rain came down within 45 minutes.
So I get home, tell my brother the situation and we load up another car with equipment and go back down there.
When we got there the water had already risen a lot so we start getting out our wenches and jacks and other various equipment and we aren't able to move it an inch. I was sawing through a limb that was wedged between the front tires when the saw slipped and went right through my fingernail and about 1cm into the skin/fingernail. At that point, I'm panicking so I take off running, yelling for help, just running through this field but I knew there had to be people around because there were fresh tire tracks from a tractor. I run up over this hill and see a fence and a barn/stable area and I start running towards that. I had to squeeze between a gate and a fence post but I didn't see the fence post had barbed-wire on it so I ended up slicing open my upper arm. I finally come across these two guys who were working. And I was lucky to come across them because they had a lot of farm equipment like tractors that would pull the Jeep out. We headed down there in a truck first because they wanted to see what they could do and once we get back down there they realize there's nothing they can do. So they leave us to go get a tractor which took about 5-8 minutes.

By the time they get back, I was looking at something I never want to see again:




So once they get back with the tractor I knew we weren't loosing this car. They came rollin' in with the biggest chains I've ever seen. They told me to get back into the car, start it and put it into neutral. I stepped down that bank into the water and it came all the way up to my belt. So I have to jump in the car like that. So they hook the chains to the tractor and hook a tow line to my car and start haulin' that baby out. Well once I've been hauled it over where I was stuck it starts going up the hill that was infront of me. Well things were going smoothly until all the sudden the tow line broke from where it was attacked to my Jeep. At this point though the car was close enough that we didn't need the tow line anymore and just hooked the chains up to it. It was smooth sailing from there.

He towed it all the way back to his house were we called AAA and had a flat-bed come pick it up and take it to the Chrysler Jeep Dodge dealership.

So at this point the Jeep is in the shop with a messed up transmission and it may be a while before we get it back because they are short handed right now in the Transmissions Department.

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The important thing is you were OK.
The lesson here is get better tires at the minimum before you go play in the soupy stuff.

edit: d'oh, just saw the "happened in july" thing.

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Old 09-20-2010, 11:36 AM   #3
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Read this on the other site a while back...good story, lol. Hope you have gotten better tires.
How did things work out??
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:42 AM   #4
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are you trying to pull the jeep out with ratchet straps?!? go get yourself a good tow strap with loop ends, not metal hooks.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:49 AM   #5
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Read this on the other site a while back...good story, lol. Hope you have gotten better tires.
How did things work out??
Haven't gotten better tires because I cannot afford them yet.
Things worked out great, I actually had the Jeep back in 2 days. Might have been 1 day, I'm not too sure.

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are you trying to pull the jeep out with ratchet straps?!? go get yourself a good tow strap with loop ends, not metal hooks.
The straps were just there to give a little extra support to the Jeep. Since then, I have gotten an 8000lb tow strap.
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I remember this story from JF.
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If it was just a day or two, then it's likely the transmission was not shot and it was just that pesky plastic linkage washer.

Either way, you are lucky given your expedition into the outback without proper preparation. One of you should have had a winch, or at least a proper tow strap and perhaps a CB radio. Furthermore, it never hurts to have a few extra linkage washers in the gove box.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:58 AM   #8
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I remember this story from JF.
Haha, yea. I posted it there a few days after this happened.
Had some free time on my hands today and decided I'd share the story here too.
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The lesson here is get better tires at the minimum before you go play in the soupy stuff.
Additional suggestions for anyone reading this story:

1. Wheel with a buddy (as in a second vehicle).

2. Get a winch and recovery gear (as in a tree hugger, snatch block, clevis shackles, pull-pal, etc.)

Either of these two would have gotten you out before things got worse, and it would have ended up being just another fun day on the trail. I realize #2 can get kinda expensive, but #1 is free (and usually more fun) .
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Okay so I have a 2 month old 2010 JK Sport and I have the 17" Goodyear wrangler ats. My wallet will simply not allow me to upgrade the tires until these wear down, which obviously could be 15k miles or more. So what is it safe to do with these tires until that point? I want to do mild off roading is all, and Id like to know the tires limits. Im not new to jeeps, this is my third one, but I haven't gone off roading in them more than 10-15 times and always in a stock Jeep.
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Okay so I have a 2 month old 2010 JK Sport and I have the 17" Goodyear wrangler ats. My wallet will simply not allow me to upgrade the tires until these wear down, which obviously could be 15k miles or more. So what is it safe to do with these tires until that point? I want to do mild off roading is all, and Id like to know the tires limits. Im not new to jeeps, this is my third one, but I haven't gone off roading in them more than 10-15 times and always in a stock Jeep.
Driver skill can be just as important. I believe you mean 32" GY SRA on the 17" wheels. Mine handled a 30" blizzard just fine. YMMV
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where are the linkage washers under your jeep and how do you fix one if it becomes disconnected on the trail?
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Great story. I was wondering what Chadwick had been up to.
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Okay so I have a 2 month old 2010 JK Sport and I have the 17" Goodyear wrangler ats. My wallet will simply not allow me to upgrade the tires until these wear down, which obviously could be 15k miles or more. So what is it safe to do with these tires until that point? I want to do mild off roading is all, and Id like to know the tires limits. Im not new to jeeps, this is my third one, but I haven't gone off roading in them more than 10-15 times and always in a stock Jeep.
I've seen some stock JK X's do some impressive things on the rocks. With the stock tires though, you probably want to avoid mud deeper than a few inches. You'll never know what your Jeep can do until you try it though, just wheel with a buddy or two, preferably between the two.
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Haven't gotten better tires because I cannot afford them yet.
Things worked out great, I actually had the Jeep back in 2 days. Might have been 1 day, I'm not too sure.



The straps were just there to give a little extra support to the Jeep. Since then, I have gotten an 8000lb tow strap.
Only an 8000lb strap, do you have any idea the force generated when recovering a stuck vehicle? I never buy anything less than a 4" 30,000lb recovery strap. Remember there is a huge difference between a "TOW" & a RECOVERY strap.
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where are the linkage washers under your jeep and how do you fix one if it becomes disconnected on the trail?


Do a search. Here's a link on another board:
Official "How I permanently fixed my tcase linkage problem" thread - JkOwners.com - The Community for Jeep JK 4x4 Owners

Badfish on this board has a solution (scroll half way down):
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/not...y-44382-2.html
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My jeep is identical to this one... It's an 08' Sahara, can't wait to take it mudding.
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So once they get back with the tractor I knew we weren't loosing this car.
They should have hooked the chain around your neck to pull your head out... it's a Jeep, not a car.
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They came rollin' in with the biggest chains I've ever seen. They told me to get back into the car,

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...So they hook the chains to the tractor and hook a tow line to my car...

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Well things were going smoothly until all the sudden the tow line broke from where it was attacked to my Jeep.

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At this point though the car was close enough that we didn't need the tow line anymore...


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So at this point the Jeep...
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Only an 8000lb strap, do you have any idea the force generated when recovering a stuck vehicle? I never buy anything less than a 4" 30,000lb recovery strap. Remember there is a huge difference between a "TOW" & a RECOVERY strap.
I only use the 8000lb strap for mild situations. If it's something that I know the strap can't handle I'll call in a buddy that I know can do it.
I actually had to do that a few weeks ago. My buddy's Uncle got is Ford Expedition stuck in some mud and I knew I wasn't gunna be able to pull him out so I had to call in a friend with stronger equipment.

Haha, I know I called the Jeep a car a lot, that's my bad YAHA
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Seeing as though it was a state of panic moment - he may have been wishing it was a car and could just get totaled from there - Glad to hear it all turned out well, and I am going to remember to pick up a couple "plastic do-hickeys" at the dealer today when in for a oil change...
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They should have hooked the chain around your neck to pull your head out... it's a Jeep, not a car.





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Yea yea, I know. It's not a car, it's a Jeep.
Forgot to change that before I posted this story on the forum.
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They should have hooked the chain around your neck to pull your head out... it's a Jeep, not a car.





Someones panties must be all bunched up today...

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