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Old 07-22-2012, 03:03 PM   #1
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Suggested upgrades to improve but keep my Sport "mostly" stock?

So I am loving my new Sport and have been spending some time reading here about all the cool things that folks do to their Jeep to adapt them for their own needs/wants.

My deal is that I drive mine daily. I live in Alaska and we have trails but I am not into big mud bogging and rock crawling. I just want to make my Sport a squeak more off-roadable and functional without lifting, changing rims or totally tanking my milage.

So I started with neoprene seat covers and Husky floor mats. These are pretty much necessary here in order to keep your Jeep from being trashed in a short amount of time. I have ordered a hitch as that is how I carry my mouton bikes.

That is about as far as I have got. I would like to replace the stock Wrangler S/Ts with something a little more trail worthy. Recommendations here would be appreciated. Should I be thinking BFG A/T or something else? Slightly larger tire for the stock rim or better for me to stay stock?

Seems like quick disconnects for the sway bar could not hurt. What say you?

What about a rear locker for the Dana 44? Worth while? What about the front Dana? Seems like the option for the extra traction could come in handy on those 22" of snow overnight times!

I guess I am looking for worthwhile upgrades/accessories that keep the basic stock configuration of the Sport but offer worth while improvements for off road (and on road for that matter.)

I will continue to search and read threads here but any suggestions for the noob?

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How about a new front bumper with a winch? Might get you out if you're stuck alone there
in the snow...?

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Great suggestions! Keep in mind as a noob, I will need more specific information. All of this tire size and spacer talk is wicked confusing. Even after reading the most excellent tire sticky I am more confused than ever. Every bigger tire thread immediately runs into "lifts," "leveling kits" and "spacers." I believe my stock tires are 225/75/16. I want to keep the stock rims but spacers would be ok. Would like to avoid a lift and I have yet to figure out what a leveling kit does.:bang head:

I guess I am trying to build an off-road equivalent of a "sleeper."
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How about some recovery gear, fire extinguisher, first aid kit, come along, and CB radio to start. I would think in Alaska some emergency survival/cold weather gear that would be kept in a "action packer type bin would be up there on the list. How about some tools, air compressor and a tire plug kit?
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How about some recovery gear, fire extinguisher, first aid kit, come along, and CB radio to start. I would think in Alaska some emergency survival/cold weather gear that would be kept in a "action packer type bin would be up there on the list. How about some tools, air compressor and a tire plug kit?
Really great point! I have a First Aid kit, Survival Kit in a can, flares, coveralls, tow strap and gloves in there now. I put full cold weather gear in every vehicle in the fall and take it out in the spring. I like the idea of a fire extinguisher, come along or/and a winch. Air compressor and tire plug kit is gold, need to do that!

I have not had a CB since the late eighties. I had one in my Bronco II with a 100 watt linear amp (illegally) that I used to shoot skip with and talk (briefly) with folks all over the world, even Australia once!! Might be fun to have a CB again. I did not know many folks still used them in this age of cell phones.

Got a "short" list of tools that Jeepers should always have along?
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Really great point! I have a First Aid kit, Survival Kit in a can, flares, coveralls, tow strap and gloves in there now. I put full cold weather gear in every vehicle in the fall and take it out in the spring. I like the idea of a fire extinguisher, come along or/and a winch. Air compressor and tire plug kit is gold, need to do that!

I have not had a CB since the late eighties. I had one in my Bronco II with a 100 watt linear amp (illegally) that I used to shoot skip with and talk (briefly) with folks all over the world, even Australia once!! Might be fun to have a CB again. I did not know many folks still used them in this age of cell phones.

Got a "short" list of tools that Jeepers should always have along?
I keep something very similar to this 263-piece Mechanic's Tool Set with 3-Drawer Lift-Top Tool Chest- Craftsman-Tools-Tool Sets-Mechanics Tool Sets in the Jeep. Many will disagree and say that it makes more sense to have exactly what you need in pouches. I like having a more complete toolset with me mainly because the tools needed may change with various mods on your rig and there will be times when you may find yourself helping out someone else on the trail with another type of rig.

Besides a basic tool set a Torx set will be handy(buy the tamper proof set) and a socket for the axle nut which I can't remember if its a 35 or 36mm socket. Big hammer, snap ring pliers, vise grips, and a C-clamp are great to have around.
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Love this thread. A recruiter has contacted me a few times lately about taking a job in a remote village in Alaska....the wife has half-jokingly said OK, but lately seems more serious about saying OK....so I have begun thinking about the very same things the OP has mentioned. If I were to take the job, what would I need to do to my Jeep to get it prepared for the AK environment.
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Love this thread. A recruiter has contacted me a few times lately about taking a job in a remote village in Alaska....the wife has half-jokingly said OK, but lately seems more serious about saying OK....so I have begun thinking about the very same things the OP has mentioned. If I were to take the job, what would I need to do to my Jeep to get it prepared for the AK environment.
Man I would love to live in Alaska for awhile but its a hard sell to the wife for me since we live in Socal. I would imagine an engine block heater and snow chains would be essential.
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I also always have gorilla tape for various repairs to include blown coolant hoses. A spare serpentine belt is easy enough to throw in. I upgraded my headlight bulbs along time ago and keep the old ones in the little cubby with my jack along with spare fuses, spare wire, zip ties, and 550 cord.
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I was directing the "spacer" remark at him.

When using oversized tires, stock rims with poor backspacing. Wheel spacers are
needed so they will fit (width) and not rub the control arms or sway bar links.
They fit on the factory hub and push the wheel/tire out more.

Lift spacers or budget boost are blocks that go on top of the stock coil springs to give lift. Usually used to allow a bigger tire (diameter) to fit. But again, using the stock rims, wheel spacers are still needed also.
A Leveling kit is a budget boost but the blocks are bigger up front to level the jeep
Ex. 2" front and 1" back.

Most coil and spacer lift kits do similar. They will lift the front more to level and allow for a heavier bumper/winch.
The rear might be a little less and the jeep will average out at the advertised lift height.

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As far as the tire question goes I would just pick up some Rubi take offs since you are not lifting it there is no real reason to go bigger. The Rubi tire are actually great tires and will perform really well under most conditions, not to mention they can be had for cheap. Doesn't make any sense to me to buy a 33in tire which will only give you a half inch more ground clearance or so over the Rubi tires for a lot more money.

In short I think some Rubi take offs would be best in cost, performance, and MPG's.
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Love this thread. A recruiter has contacted me a few times lately about taking a job in a remote village in Alaska....the wife has half-jokingly said OK, but lately seems more serious about saying OK....so I have begun thinking about the very same things the OP has mentioned. If I were to take the job, what would I need to do to my Jeep to get it prepared for the AK environment.
Where and doing what? Some "remote villages" are the real deal and are usually miserable for reluctant spouses. However, there are a number of reasonable communities that will give a fantastic Alaskan experience without being too far off the grid. Actually the stock jeep will handle Alaskan roads and highways very well. Off-road can get pretty mucky.

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I would imagine an engine block heater and snow chains would be essential.
Most folks here use studded snow tires. I almost never see anyone use chains. School busses have auto chains. Studs are necessary in my opinion. Some will disagree, but my Liberty has narrowly escaped disaster a couple of time hanging on those priceless bits of steal!! Without a garage, one really should have a block heater. Even with a garage, interior Alaska will get to 60 below and within 5 hours of shutting the engine off, it will likely not start again. Especially my skookum, bullet proof, all aluminum Pentastar!

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I also always have gorilla tape for various repairs to include blown coolant hoses. A spare serpentine belt is easy enough to throw in. I upgraded my headlight bulbs along time ago and keep the old ones in the little cubby with my jack along with spare fuses, spare wire, zip ties, and 550 cord.
More great tips!

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I was directing the "spacer" remark at him.

When using oversized tires, stock rims with poor backspacing. Wheel spacers are
needed so they will fit (width) and not rub the control arms or sway bar links.
They fit on the factory hub and push the wheel/tire out more.

Lift spacers or budget boost are blocks that go on top of the stock coil springs to give lift. Usually used to allow a bigger tire (diameter) to fit. But again, using the stock rims, wheel spacers are still needed also.
A Leveling kit is a budget boost but the blocks are bigger up front to level the jeep
Ex. 2" front and 1" back.

Most coil and spacer lift kits do similar. They will lift the front more to level and allow for a heavier bumper/winch.
The rear might be a little less and the jeep will average out at the advertised lift height.

Make sense ?
Perfectly! Thanks so much!!

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As far as the tire question goes I would just pick up some Rubi take offs since you are not lifting it there is no real reason to go bigger. The Rubi tire are actually great tires and will perform really well under most conditions, not to mention they can be had for cheap. Doesn't make any sense to me to buy a 33in tire which will only give you a half inch more ground clearance or so over the Rubi tires for a lot more money.

In short I think some Rubi take offs would be best in cost, performance, and MPG's.
These are 17" inch tires and rims aren't they? The take offs are not as available around here and shipping tires and rims from the lower 48 is spendy! Would a larger 16" version of the Rubicon tire be desirable?
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Where and doing what? Some "remote villages" are the real deal and are usually miserable for reluctant spouses. However, there are a number of reasonable communities that will give a fantastic Alaskan experience without being too far off the grid. Actually the stock jeep will handle Alaskan roads and highways very well. Off-road can get pretty mucky.
Physician Assistant. The recruiter mentioned Barrow as one possible place when I last spoke to him a couple of years ago...he's been emailing me again lately and the wife is acting more and more interested.
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Just throwing my 2 cents in - I recommend new headlights - new bulbs for sure, but if you can afford it buy the led head lights. My wife could not stand to drive our jeep at night because the head lights were so yellow and bad. I put a set of led ones in and it was and possibly is the best mod I did for safety at least The lift and 35s are for show and Moab.
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Ya know honestly a winch is something that I often consider overkill for what many do with their Jeep. But being someone who grew up at about 8,000ft elevation in Colorado, I completely understand OP's 22" overnight snow concern.

So for your particular purposes it honestly wouldn't be a bad investment. Anyone who's lived in snow country knows just how slick it can get and how deep you can get buried really fast.

And OP has plenty of trees around to winch off of if such a predicament does occur. So it'd be pretty handy when your solo, even on a morning drive to work. I've been there, many a day I had to ride the snowmobile to work b/c my Bronco was buried bad enough I could hardly make out it was there.

In any event I'd definitely put a good recovery gear set in your Jeep if you haven't already. Basic survival kit is pretty standard in snow country, but you probably already knew that.
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Front and rear arb air lockers would be my first mod per your description and desires.
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These are 17" inch tires and rims aren't they? The take offs are not as available around here and shipping tires and rims from the lower 48 is spendy! Would a larger 16" version of the Rubicon tire be desirable?
Yes they are 17's. I will let someone else chime in as I have not had to worry about driving in snow for many years. Tires for the stock 16's shouldn't be too bad, without a lift I would not go with anything above a 33" tire.

In regards to the LED headlight comment I would do some research because I have heard of some people having issues with LED headlights in wintery weather. The problem has been with the headlights accumulating snow and ice while driving due to their low heat output.
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Physician Assistant. The recruiter mentioned Barrow as one possible place when I last spoke to him a couple of years ago...he's been emailing me again lately and the wife is acting more and more interested.
Hmmm...pretty remote. Don't think I would take the Jeep, severe cold weather would be really tough on it. Dark, really dark for 4 mo and -60 degrees is common! Think very hard and demand enormous $$!!

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Just throwing my 2 cents in - I recommend new headlights - new bulbs for sure, but if you can afford it buy the led head lights. My wife could not stand to drive our jeep at night because the head lights were so yellow and bad. I put a set of led ones in and it was and possibly is the best mod I did for safety at least The lift and 35s are for show and Moab.
I will check into lights if the Jeep's lights seem to be inadequate. We have a lot of dark here!

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Ya know honestly a winch is something that I often consider overkill for what many do with their Jeep. But being someone who grew up at about 8,000ft elevation in Colorado, I completely understand OP's 22" overnight snow concern.

So for your particular purposes it honestly wouldn't be a bad investment. Anyone who's lived in snow country knows just how slick it can get and how deep you can get buried really fast.

And OP has plenty of trees around to winch off of if such a predicament does occur. So it'd be pretty handy when your solo, even on a morning drive to work. I've been there, many a day I had to ride the snowmobile to work b/c my Bronco was buried bad enough I could hardly make out it was there.

In any event I'd definitely put a good recovery gear set in your Jeep if you haven't already. Basic survival kit is pretty standard in snow country, but you probably already knew that.
Yeah, even for a controlled pull out of the ditch a winch is handy. Better than some yahoo in his 1 ton dually trying "ta jerk ya out!"

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Front and rear arb air lockers would be my first mod per your description and desires.
I will look into those! Traction is you friend in the winter!

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Yes they are 17's. I will let someone else chime in as I have not had to worry about driving in snow for many years. Tires for the stock 16's shouldn't be too bad, without a lift I would not go with anything above a 33" tire.

In regards to the LED headlight comment I would do some research because I have heard of some people having issues with LED headlights in wintery weather. The problem has been with the headlights accumulating snow and ice while driving due to their low heat output.
Thanks for all the great tips!
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Just throwing my 2 cents in - I recommend new headlights - new bulbs for sure, but if you can afford it buy the led head lights. My wife could not stand to drive our jeep at night because the head lights were so yellow and bad. I put a set of led ones in and it was and possibly is the best mod I did for safety at least The lift and 35s are for show and Moab.
Which LED headlights did you install?

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