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Old 06-28-2012, 02:22 PM   #1
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Suggestion on Brake Controllers

I am looking to pull a trailer with my new JKU. I've read the posts about towing capacity / 3.21 / 3.73 / AT / MT so won't ask questions about that.

My interest is what brake controllers are people using? The hitch is wired for 4 pin and 7 pin. The 4 pin is fine for the trash trailer but the larger one has electric brakes so needs the controller. I pulled it (gingerly) with my Liberty without the controller but...

Thoughts / opinions / advice / experience appreciated.

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I'm thinking for light duty what ever controller you want, check craig's list.

what i'm really thinking is that if you need a brake controller then you are probably exceeding the towing capacity of the jeep and are looking for all kinds of problems when it is going to count the most.

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I'm thinking for light duty what ever controller you want, check craig's list.

what i'm really thinking is that if you need a brake controller then you are probably exceeding the towing capacity of the jeep and are looking for all kinds of problems when it is going to count the most.

Exactly, brakes aren't required on a trailer unless it's capacity is over 3000lbs, which is above the tow rating.
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:56 PM   #4
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... but if you decide you HAVE to tow with your Jeep (or any other vehicle) then I recommend the Tekonsha Prodigy controller for you electric brake equipped trailer. Sure it is pricey but it is the BOMB.

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Exactly, brakes aren't required on a trailer unless it's capacity is over 3000lbs, which is above the tow rating.

My Jeep is rated for 3500 Lbs. ?
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:15 PM   #6
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I have to agree that the Teknosha Prodigy is the best thing going. I have one in my Chevy Pickup and it is great. It has an accelerometer in it so it can vary the voltage depending on what it feels you trying to do. Most just give you a set voltage when you hit the brakes. It also has some logic adjustability that they call boost. I tow things in the 7,000 to 8,000 pound range and this brake controller makes it safe and easy.
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Exactly, brakes aren't required on a trailer unless it's capacity is over 3000lbs, which is above the tow rating.
Actually braking requirements vary by state and run from 1500 to 4500 pounds. You can check the requirement for your state here: http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm

But I agree, towing something that heavy with a light short wheel base Wrangler is not the best idea.
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Actually braking requirements vary by state and run from 1500 to 4500 pounds. You can check the requirement for your state here: http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm

But I agree, towing something that heavy with a light short wheel base Wrangler is not the best idea.
Well, I agree with this... the Wrangler could get sideways in a hurry depending on the length and weight of your trailer. If you get a sway problem (where the trailer starts whipping back and forth) the Prodigy allows you to brake the trailer to stop the sway. If you don't have a controller that allows that, you must ACCELERATE out of the sway, hitting your brakes will make the trailer want to "pass" you!

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I have 2010 wrangler unlimited rubicon that I tow an off road pop up trailer with and i use the prodigy controller as well with the 7 pin connector. In California if the trailer is over 1500 pounds it must have supplemental brakes. My trailer is 2500 lbs empty and gets close to the 3500 limit if fully loaded and when I turn off brake controller it behaves very differently when braking.
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Very interesting. The JK has a tow limit of 2000, and apparrently the JKU has a limit of 3500. The only difference in thes vehicles is the length and a little weight. Obvioulsy, the short wheelbase is is a cause for concern. I've never towed with anything less than a truck, but I now have a small aluminum utility trailer 5x10 ft, weighs 700lbs, so that I can haul stuff with the Jeep. I will be taking it easy!
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The Teknosha seems to be the general consensus. Any experience on the install? Does the JK have a "plug & play" port or am I going to be running wire to the back? All the trucks I ever had came with one so I have never had the pleasure of installing one myself. Can't be rocket science but P&P would be nice.

My trailer is 1700 lbs empty. It's rated to take much much more of a load than I ever plan to put on it (double axle). If I hit the 3500 lb mark I would be surprised. If I need to pull a 5K load of block & cement bags, I'll fix the axle seals & plug up some leaks on my 30 year old F250 but for getting firewood, plywood, sheetrock, appliances etc, the JKU should be more than adequate. I want to install the controller for an added safety factor especially since the electric brakes are already there. Seems a no brainer to me.

Someone suggested that GC brakes would fit on the Sahara. I may be looking into that too. May be unnecessary overkill but bigger is better. Anyone try it already? If so issues? Bracket compatibility? Brake line thread?
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I have a prodigy, and regardless of law why not be as safe as possible? I feel that if it will help stop the Jeep one car length sooner avoiding an accident why not, plus it takes some stress off of the Jeeps brakes.
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Someone suggested that GC brakes would fit on the Sahara. I may be looking into that too. May be unnecessary overkill but bigger is better. Anyone try it already? If so issues? Bracket compatibility? Brake line thread?
Not sure what brakes you are referring to but I have been running the Teraflex Big brake kit with no issues and it really helps. You get dual piston front calipers, 13.3" rotors, and heavy duty brake pads. I believe the pads are the same size as Ram 1500 brake pads,
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Not sure what brakes you are referring to but I have been running the Teraflex Big brake kit with no issues and it really helps. You get dual piston front calipers, 13.3" rotors, and heavy duty brake pads. I believe the pads are the same size as Ram 1500 brake pads,
Those are the $2,000 brakes right? wire tied floating rotors et. al.?

I was thinking more along the lines of a set of rotors, calipers & caliper brackets from a salvage yard turned with new pads but do not want to buy the parts if they won't bolt up directly. If it is not feasible without having a new plate machined, then so be it. I have done drum to disc conversions several times. Just a thought at this point.
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kind of like when everyone used to put Granada brakes on a Mustang.
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... but if you decide you HAVE to tow with your Jeep (or any other vehicle) then I recommend the Tekonsha Prodigy controller for you electric brake equipped trailer. Sure it is pricey but it is the BOMB.

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I agree.
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Those are the $2,000 brakes right? wire tied floating rotors et. al.?

I was thinking more along the lines of a set of rotors, calipers & caliper brackets from a salvage yard turned with new pads but do not want to buy the parts if they won't bolt up directly. If it is not feasible without having a new plate machined, then so be it. I have done drum to disc conversions several times. Just a thought at this point.
The Teraflex set is only available for the front right now and it retails for just under $700 which is a pretty good deal for what your getting. I bought mine slightly used for $300 on Craigslist.
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The Teknosha seems to be the general consensus. Any experience on the install? Does the JK have a "plug & play" port or am I going to be running wire to the back? All the trucks I ever had came with one so I have never had the pleasure of installing one myself. Can't be rocket science but P&P would be nice.
So I am looking at getting the P3. Does anyone know the answer to this guy's question. Is there a plug & play port as he put it?

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