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Old 10-07-2010, 07:41 AM   #1
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Sunrider Confusion

Ok, So When I had my TJ (2000- before the sunrider option appeared) I thought "man that would be awesome!
Now I have my JK and I'm just a bit confused. First let me say, I am folding it correctly- I get all the "w" folds, thats not an issue.
What I'm confused about is- What is it good for?

Originally I though, "this'll be great, If I want the top off, but it's too hot for my son in his car seat, I can open the sunrider and have the best of both worlds. But the sunrider opens past the rear seat (on my 4 door), so we might as well have the top off. If I run the sunrider open with the windows open and the rear all closed up- I feel like the air pressure/wind on the rear windows can't be good for them. If I run with all the windows closed, I have the same concern about the rear windows only, the air pressure pulls them in instead of out.
So....what are you guys using it for?

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I think in the manual it says something about not exceeding 30 MPH or so with the windows in...

Basically I use it as the first step in putting the top all the way down ;-)

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You're not opening it correctly. The side bow should remain latched at the sunrider hinge point.
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Daggo - even with it latched - the sunrider top opens to basically just over the back seat headrests at least it does on mine - in fact - the little flap of top that hangs down - my dealer was joking how kids love to "bat it around"

I can snap a picture if needed...
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:54 AM   #5
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Show what you're talking about? I don't have a JKU...I've got a LJ so I don't really have that issue. In any case, I tend to agree, its just one of the steps to getting the top all the way down for me
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Here's a couple pics - the second shows how far back the header beam rests when open. The first you can see how it basically creates a nice "funnel" between the sound bar and the folded top...
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:16 AM   #7
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Your pics are so close, it's hard to tell what's what for me.

Are you using the tie downs?

Something I noticed that the JK doesn't seem to include that the TJ has is a strap that hooks in the middle. It's a simple thing, but makes a world of difference. It's something you could make, and I could tell you how if you're so inclined. Unless you could sweet talk Geoff into selling you one, last I heard though Bestop didn't sell them separately.
I made up a couple for some fellow Jeepers who for one reason or another didn't have them.
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Sorry about that - was standing on the rock rails...

I do use the straps on the sides... I have always wondered why there isn't a strap for the middle...
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Mine doesn't have side straps, just the middle one.
Works just fine.
I think it would be easier than the two as well, I can just unhook it with one hand and pop it closed.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure you have it folded quite right. There really shouldn't be any drooping of the material when folded back in the Sunrider position. I made this same mistake on my JKU and it took me some time to figure out what the problem was. Actually, the way you have it folded would prevent you from completely folding it all the way back, as it will get caught on the last part of the roll bar. At least it did for me.

If you let the top fold as it "naturally" wants to, you end up with too much material hanging in front of the bows. While folding it back, you need to ensure all the material folds towards the rear of the jeep, which allows it to rest on the top. Doing it this way keeps it from drooping in the middle, as there is nothing to droop. Plus, folding it all the way back will go better as well.

Now as far as the sun beating on your little one, not much you can do, as it does open up for both rows (as you already know).

I've run the Sunrider with rear windows in/out and door windows up/down with no negative effects. Of course, I've only had it since July so I can't comment on long-term stress on the rear plastic windows.

I really like it, though. Unlike others, I'm not really comfortable taking the top totally down by myself (yet), but the Sunrider really only takes a few minutes and gives me 80 percent of that topless feeling. And I can do it myself pretty easily.

Good luck.
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^^Exactly what he said. mine doesn't droop at all. You just have to make sure that you fold back both sections so that it is a true W. I like the sunrider because it lets you get the open air feeling really quickly and allows for quick closing of the top too. Also, you dont have to mess with the rear side windows at all (kind of a PITA), you just have to unzip the rear-facing window. Don't forget to take the rear window out (or unzip it and let it flap down into the tub) because you're not supposed to drive with the sunrider open and the rear window closed above 40 mph or so.
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Yeah - I just went out and threw it back - normally take a lot of that extra material and push it back to get the flattest lay possible (wow, start the jokes now)...

I was just trying to show how it opens all the way back over the second row and there's not much that can be done about that...
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There are several videos on YouTube that will show you to properly layer the folds in the top. I have drive on the highway at over 80 mph with out an issue. If you plan on keeping the windows in then roll up the rear window to allow the air to flow out the back if you plan on going over 30 mph.
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unzip your back window a little bit to allow air to flow through your jeep to prevent the air pressure build up..
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No I have no droop in my top. When I first got it I had that problem but figured it ou pretty quick.

So it sounds like I'm using my sunrider the same way you guys are- that is, not really using it at all.

Thanks for the rear window tip with the sunrider.
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No I have no droop in my top. When I first got it I had that problem but figured it ou pretty quick.

So it sounds like I'm using my sunrider the same way you guys are- that is, not really using it at all.

Thanks for the rear window tip with the sunrider.
I can't speak for the 4dr, but I certainly use it and like it on my 2dr.
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I'm with daggo... I use the heck out of mine. I rarely take the whole top off, I love my Sunrider.

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