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Old 07-18-2011, 12:34 PM   #1
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Sunrider Soft Top Problem on JK 4dr

I have a 2010 4dr that I recently put the factory soft top on. I quickly found that the vertical plastic "L" strips that are forward of the soft top side windows, that catch around the rear door jambs will not stay in place. Especially at highway speed, these strips let go of the corner and allow wind in the sides that causes a bubbling effect on the whole top. I suspect that this will cause undue wear on the stitched seams and eventually a tear.

I am considering running a thin strip of velco inside the door jamb and on the part of the plastic strip the meets the jamb, but I worry that the summer heat will cause the velcro glued backing to come loose.

Has anyone had this issue and have you come up with solution?

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Old 07-18-2011, 12:47 PM   #2
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You're installing the windows wrong.

Answer is here.

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MTH (Mike), thanks for the quick reply. I want to make it clear that the problem I am having isn't with the windows. The vertical plastic strips that catch the rear doors won't stay in. I can't see what would keep the appropriate level of tension to let the strip catch the door jamb. The windows zip in fine and the velcro seals around the removable windows all work fine. The link you gave me wasn't crystal clear that my particular problem is being addressed. I certainly understand that the doors themselves aren't meant to hold the strips in place. I thought putting my own velcro on the strips might keep them in the jambs.

Did I miss something there? I don't want to appear naive. I read the manual step by step as well as the factory insert that was provided when I installed the top. I am pretty mechanically inclined. I also greatly appreciate and assistance, advice, and feedback.

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You're not installing the "L" into the channel on the door surround properly.... Re read the link MTH posted....
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:10 PM   #5
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Watch this video. You'll see exacxtly what Mike is talking about. You are definitely not "getting" it.

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Old 07-18-2011, 01:16 PM   #6
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MTH (Mike), thanks for the quick reply. I want to make it clear that the problem I am having isn't with the windows. The vertical plastic strips that catch the rear doors won't stay in. I can't see what would keep the appropriate level of tension to let the strip catch the door jamb. The windows zip in fine and the velcro seals around the removable windows all work fine. The link you gave me wasn't crystal clear that my particular problem is being addressed. I certainly understand that the doors themselves aren't meant to hold the strips in place. I thought putting my own velcro on the strips might keep them in the jambs.

Did I miss something there? I don't want to appear naive. I read the manual step by step as well as the factory insert that was provided when I installed the top. I am pretty mechanically inclined. I also greatly appreciate and assistance, advice, and feedback.

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I hear ya'.

You're still doing it wrong, and the link is still the answer.

The "plastic strip" you're referring to is sewn into the window panel, right? It comes off with the window when you remove it and sort of "fits" into the seam between the door and the black plastic "door surround" that's attached to the Jeep? Does that sound right?

If you only zip the zipper a few inches, you'll be able to FOLD that plastic strip toward the rear of the Jeep and tuck it into a channel in the door surround. Then you zip the rest of the window.

Walk out and try it and you'll see what I mean.
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Thanks everyone. I wasn't able to watch the video because my job computer is WebSensed and restricts media, but the thread that schooled MTH and InfernoGirl suddenly became clear when I saw the drawing. I also appreciate the noogie fromDagg about not "getting it". Now I feel like part of the family. It's like Groundhog Day from MTH's thread. I will try this undocumented remedy as soon as I get home. Of course, where it is 90 degrees out, I will certainly have the top down for the evening.
P.S. F the guy who wrote the manual. This stuff should be made clearer.
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You're an engineer or IT person aren't you.
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It's like Groundhog Day from MTH's thread. I will try this undocumented remedy as soon as I get home.
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P.S. F the guy who wrote the manual. This stuff should be made clearer.
You couldn't be more correct. This comes up all the time. Every few weeks, somebody asks.

And that of course doesn't even include the people I see driving with them on wrong all the time who never think to ask at a place like this. Heck, most of the ones on the lot at my local dealership are similarly on wrong.

There should be a way to make it clearer. Let us know if you can't get it.
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You're an engineer or IT person aren't you.
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Sadly no, they get paid a hell of a lot more. Cop. Daggo either you were the guy that wrote the crappy manual or you are just a funny ballbuster.
Really though, I appreciate the Forum, I'm happy to be a member, and I am thankful for all of your help. I hope I learn a few things and am able to help other new Jeep people.
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I will report back tomorrow if you all were right. (I'm sure you are).
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This seems a lot easy than my '08.
does anyone know if the '10 or the '11 sunrider top can be swapped out onto an '08?
I heard they improved the top and I'm wondering if its worth trying to chase one down.
Thanks!
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I am definitely a ballbuster. Often engineers and IT people can't see what's right in front of them. When something is simple they tend to maje it more difficult. It can be a very difficult thing to explain to someone what they just don't understand. that video is the best explanation tool I've found. Take a look at it when you are home and you will have a moment.
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This seems a lot easy than my '08.
does anyone know if the '10 or the '11 sunrider top can be swapped out onto an '08?
I heard they improved the top and I'm wondering if its worth trying to chase one down.
Thanks!
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Yes, as long as the new door surrounds are included. The only real difference is the drip rail above the doors.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:47 PM   #15
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So low and behold I found a guy with the dual top and he's letting the soft top and surrounds go. Can you have the door surrounds on under the hard top?
He said he needed to take the hard top off to pack those up.
Soft top is 3 weeks old and still in the box.
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Ooh, and forgot to add? Is it worth upgrading the top or it's a minimal upgrade? Would my dollars be better spent on other mods?
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So low and behold I found a guy with the dual top and he's letting the soft top and surrounds go. Can you have the door surrounds on under the hard top?
He said he needed to take the hard top off to pack those up.
Soft top is 3 weeks old and still in the box.
It sounds like he had the dual top and never removed the soft top.
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That's what I'm wondering. Does the dual top ship with the softtop door surrounds on the vehicle with the hardtop on the jeep and the softtop in the box?
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The door surrounds and the windows should be in a box as well as the rear window bar and rear clips. The material and frame is stored in the vehicle and is supposed to be removed ASAP to prevent damage to the top. That being said, people have reportedly had them on for a while without issue.
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MTH, Daggo66, and InfernoGirl,...I humbly thank you. When I got home from work tonight, I tried the appropriate method and it worked. I am indebted to you all! Soft Top is air tight.....or close.
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MTH, Daggo66, and InfernoGirl,...I humbly thank you. When I got home from work tonight, I tried the appropriate method and it worked. I am indebted to you all! Soft Top is air tight.....or close.
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