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Superchips Flashcal vs AEV Procal

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#1 ·
Does anyone have knowledge of these products? Is it a toss-up or does one do things that the other doesn't?
 
#3 ·
i run the superchips flashpaq and i see quite the difference in horsepower/torque. been using it for 2 months now, been using the 91octane perfomance. only problem is the price of gas but eh i dont really care hahahaha
 
#4 ·
Nice looking rig. I'm considering the Flashcal; it appears to be a new product from Superchips that has functions similar to the Procal.
 
#5 ·
I assume you mean the FlashPaq?

The FlashPaq differs from the Procal in that it essentially "tunes" by changing the auto shift points, while the Procal won't. Besides that, pretty much the same features... adjust speedo for aftermarket tires, adjust tpms etc etc...

If you have a manual, it's especially not worth twice the price, in my opinion.

Another thing, afaik, the Flashpaq is only compatible with up to 2010 models, so if you have a newer Jeep than that, you're out of luck.

I'm picking up the Procal myself, once my new wheels and tires are installed.
 
#7 ·
When I ordered my tires&lift from Quadratec, they mentioned the Flashcal...said it's a newer Superchips product. I want to determine how it differs from the Procal so I can decide which one to use on mine.
 
#16 ·
Yeah, this is one of those annoying things about QT and other online retailers....they don't mention when you order something if the item is in stock or not, even though they allow the payment to process through your bank account. I was told by both QT and Northridge4x4 that they have not received the new Superchips Flashcal's yet. Called them both 5 days ago and was told that they are due to receive them from superchips in about 7-10 days. Ah, such is life. :)

Anyway, I'm also curious to see how it compares to the Procal (so far seems very similar, minus the dip switches), and I also have one on order.
 
#21 ·
Ubear, I can only speak from my own experience.....put the tires on, man! Don't let a few mph on the speedo discourage you. If you're worried about that, just download a free speedo app on your phone that will give you GPS speed in the meantime.

About the shift points....well, yeah it's annoying at first, but it also depends on your driving style and whether you will be highway vs city driving. Again, I would not have taken my 35's back off because of the annoyance.

I did not get any error codes with new (bigger) tires. Only the TPMS light because to my knowledge, there are no TPMS sensors on my new wheels. I did end up using a Procal for now, especially when I found out that the Flashcal would not arrive for another week.

I'd go for it and slap on the new shoes! :punk:
 
#22 · (Edited)
Anyone know what the 'ESP stability optimization' might be? I want to fully disable the nannies without spending 5 or 6 hundred bucks on a programmer. I googled it but can't find any real info on it but I'm guessing they are just talking about adjusting for tire size, not disabling it.
 
#33 ·
Received from Quadratec, updated the firmware from the Superchips website (using the software for Flashpaq), and used it to calibrate tire size and tire pressure on my Jeep. It is super quick and simple to use and works great! I like the fact that it is capable of receiving software updates or new functions in the future, and it has a backlit display.
 
#35 ·
Mine arrived about a week ago. It's still in the box, but I plan to try it out soon. Thanks for the update. Will give my thoughts/opinions once I try it out. Have to restore my defaults with the procal first, though.
 
#40 ·
Speedguy, I think the only real difference is that you have a '13 and I have a '11. I think the shift points in my transmission are based on speed and not rpm, but I can't say for sure. Anyway.....after putting on the 35's, it was annoying to have the jeep shifting at crazy times. I just drove with the O/D off and it solved that bogging down problem on the highway. Calibrating the speedo helped with this when accelerating and general around town driving (used my procal). But I think you and I have different transmissions, so with everything else being the same, I would calibrate the speedo and see what happens.
 
#41 ·
I received mine last week to adjust tire size and tpms for the 35's that went on Saturday. The website was down into Sunday but I finally was able to do the software update and try it out. It took the tpms adjustment no problem, same when trying lamp delay and lane change but... Tire size adjustment kept failing. I went ahead and tried adjusting the gear ratio to see what happens and it did the same programming failure. The last try before giving up was clicking on 4hi and 4lo options. Thinking it was to adjust lockers I was surprised it only shows transfer case ratio adjustments. I called Superchips Monday on the programming failures and the guy was confused about the problem, said I was the first call on this and opened up a case. After being on hold and coming back for more questions he told me to plug it back into my computer, check for updates, and try again. Needless to say that didn't work so I will be calling back tomorrow. A quick google search shows someone else on another forum has the same issue. Hoping just a new product glitch... I will ask about the locking options too, maybe I am missing something but the programmer is simple and only has so many options.
 
#49 ·
Update: I was able to get the FlashCal updated on the 3rd try - used the same USB port as the first attempt. Be advised that it does take a while to analyze and update the programmer, about 15 minutes for me. Finally got the message saying it was updated with the latest software.

Also, I was able to load the software to disable the TPMS completely. This is a free add-on, but if you do not go through the shopping cart process on SC's website, you will only be able to set the TPMS down to 10psi.

Procal vs FlashCal ?? Here's my first impressions:

The procal is super quick once set up and plugged into the obd port. Horn chirps almost immediately to signal the changes. But, having to unplug and reset dip switches each time you change something is a bit tedious. The FlashCal has everything you need on display, so you just toggle through everything with the unit still plugged in and your ignition switch on. Each update takes longer than the procal, but the time saved without re-positioning dip switches probably makes up for it. It also has a long enough cord to hold the programmer and remained plugged in.

The Procal has a steering wheel center adjustment. FlashCal does not.

Procal let's you disable TPMS right out of the box. FlashCal requires additional software (a free, 5 minute download).

I have yet to figure out the locker adjustment on the FlashCal....it isn't an option and there's no mention of it on the website or in the manual.

FlashCal reads and displays DTC's, then gives you the option to clear them. Procal only allows you to clear them.

Other than that, the two seem very similar. Sorry for the long-winded post, but I wanted to give as much info to fellow members as possible. I ran with my Procal for a few weeks, so I will do the same with the FlashCal and report back on any issues/problems if anyone is interested.
 
#55 ·
Update: I was able to get the FlashCal updated on the 3rd try - used the same USB port as the first attempt. Be advised that it does take a while to analyze and update the programmer, about 15 minutes for me. Finally got the message saying it was updated with the latest software.

Also, I was able to load the software to disable the TPMS completely. This is a free add-on, but if you do not go through the shopping cart process on SC's website, you will only be able to set the TPMS down to 10psi.
Glad to hear you got it to go. My first couple attempts trying to update the programmer went the same way. Now it links and works with my computer no problem... Just not having the same luck when attempting to program the Jeep.
 
#50 · (Edited)
Alright we can but this to bed.....I just got off the phone again with Superchips. He confirmed that there is NO locker option for 4hi only gear change. I expressed my frustration with the poor wording on both their and all of the vendor sites and said it is very misleading. Now I will have to pay for return shipping which although small I am not happy about. here is the email trail with superchips. Sorry you will have to read from the bottom up.


Aftermarket transfer case ratios.

Ron

TECHNICAL SUPPORT
WEB-MONITOR
SENIOR TECH
Ron Rapp
rrapp@superchips.com
1-888-227-2447
Superchips Inc.
1790 E.Airport BLVD.
Sanford, Florida 32773

From: Travis Warner [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:08 PM
To: Ron Rapp
Subject: Re: Jeep Flashcal

so what is transfer case high low locking options then?

On Apr 12, 2013, at 02:05 PM, Ron Rapp <RRapp@Superchips.com> wrote:

• Corrects speedometer for tire upgrades between 22.5” - 44.25”
• Speedometer recalibration for gear /axle swaps up to 5.38 and beyond
• Transfer case Hi and Lo locking options
• ESP stability optimization
• Engine idle adjustability for winching
• Street legal TPMS adjustability (Off-Road options available for download)
• Daytime running light options (2011-12 models only)
• One touch lane change
• Radio delay options
• Headlamp delay options
• Horn chirp and exterior lighting flash options when locking doors with keyless entry
• Reads and clears diagnostic trouble codes
• Internet updatable


The product does not have the ability to lock the axles.

Ron

TECHNICAL SUPPORT
WEB-MONITOR
SENIOR TECH
Ron Rapp
rrapp@superchips.com
1-888-227-2447
Superchips Inc.
1790 E.Airport BLVD.
Sanford, Florida 32773

From: Travis Warner [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:41 PM
To: Ron Rapp
Subject: RE: Jeep Flashcal

the person reporting the problem has a 2011 Rubicon 4 door.

Travis

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: Ron Rapp <RRapp@Superchips.com>
Date:
To: Travis Warner <>
Subject: RE: Jeep Flashcal

What is the year of the Jeep?
Ron

TECHNICAL SUPPORT
WEB-MONITOR
SENIOR TECH
Ron Rapp
rrapp@superchips.com
1-888-227-2447
Superchips Inc.
1790 E.Airport BLVD.
Sanford, Florida 32773

From: Travis Warner [mailto:
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:04 PM
To: Ron Rapp
Subject: Jeep Flashcal

I spoke to Ron earlier on the phone. There is a thread on wranglerforum.com about problems with the flashcal stating there is no option to use the rubicon lockers in 4hi as well as a few other issues. The poster also says there is nothing in the manual about using lockers in 4hi. Only gear ratios for 4 hi and low. Can you please confirm for me or to the forum that there is a option to use lockers in 4hi if you have a rubicon? Here is a link to the thread as well.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/superchips-flashcal-vs-aev-procal-227055.html


Travis
 
#51 ·
You're right - it is misleading. Big difference between "transfer case hi and lo locking options" and "aftermarket transfer case gear ratios." Poor wording indeed.

It's not necessarily a deal breaker for me yet, but I suspect there will be some other unhappy folks out there who thought they could use their lockers in 4hi with it.

Thanks for digging into this, twarner776. It's sad that you have to deal with the hassle, but you might have saved some others from the same headache, and you helped solve the mystery for me.
 
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