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Old 03-06-2012, 09:23 PM   #1
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Suspension lift for Dummies

Hey guys, I am interested in lifting my jeep, probably around 2.5 inches. All the lift kits I have seen have new springs, and either new shocks or shock adapters. The thing is, I live in SoCal, and don't want a "Brah Mobile", so I want to do the job right. I have no idea what (if anything) else I should do, and while searching on here, they are so spread out that I get lost. I have no problem searching and researching individual parts, but any help on what should be done so its right, would be so helpful. Thanks guys

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forgot to mention, i have a 2012 JK sport, the only "mods" so far is new wheels and tires

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Old 03-06-2012, 09:26 PM   #3
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What tire size are you running now?
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Hey guys, I am interested in lifting my jeep, probably around 2.5 inches. All the lift kits I have seen have new springs, and either new shocks or shock adapters. The thing is, I live in SoCal, and don't want a "Brah Mobile", so I want to do the job right. I have no idea what (if anything) else I should do, and while searching on here, they are so spread out that I get lost. I have no problem searching and researching individual parts, but any help on what should be done so its right, would be so helpful. Thanks guys
What's a Brah Mobile...to you?

You're right, most lifts do come with springs, shocks, or adapters. If you're in the market for a 2.5" lift, that's pretty much your only option, unless you wanna jack it up with a hydraulic lift and have look cool in the driveway.

A good lift in the size you're looking for is the TeraFlex 2.5" lift with Bilstein 5100 shocks, $750 from Northridge 4x4. Tons of peeps running those. Rock Krawler also makes excellent stuff.

What do you wanna do with your Jeep? Mostly road use, some light wheeling, climbing Everest? All of that goes into choosing a lift, wheels, tires.

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forgot to mention, i have a 2012 JK sport, the only "mods" so far is new wheels and tires
What size wheels, what backspace? What size tires?
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:24 PM   #5
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i have 265-75-16 on there now, now i just need the clearance. i believe thats a 31.5" x 10 tire...i have no idea what the backspace on the wheel is, i can find out tho. i have no rubbing or anything else when i travel full left and right, and i like the way the wheels look on it, so i would like to keep them if i can manage.

a "brah mobile" is VERY typical in SoCal, all the rich kids lift their trucks and never manage to take them off the road, except maybe to park in a gravel parking lot, and even then they will go slow. i will be mostly road use, with what i hope becomes a regular wheeling addiction--ive had it 12 days and had to climb under it and spray it with the power washer to clean all the mud off it already-my 1st dealership "tuneup" is tomorrow and wanted it clean, so i think i might get pretty serious about it. i want to upgrade the bumpers and throw a winch on the front, and do my best to make it more or less indestructible, while still maintaining a daily driver. i just have to wait for the money tree to grow in the front yard....
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:25 PM   #6
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speaking of brah mobiles-i pulled into auto zone to get some windshield cleaner the other day (covered in mud, i had to spray the window with water so i could use the mirror), and parked next to a 2009 F250, all lifted, fat ass tires on it, and one of the most beautiful wax jobs ive ever seen on a vehicle. thats a brah mobile
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speaking of brah mobiles-i pulled into auto zone to get some windshield cleaner the other day (covered in mud, i had to spray the window with water so i could use the mirror), and parked next to a 2009 F250, all lifted, fat ass tires on it, and one of the most beautiful wax jobs ive ever seen on a vehicle. thats a brah mobile
Lol well from my limited time on here a lot off the off roading, rock crawling guys n gals on here like to keep their jeeps in one of two ways, waxed or muddy I say don't be afraid to keep your Jk looking all shiny, she'll still know she's a tough mudder!
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:38 PM   #8
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alright, theres a reason i named this Suspension Lift for Dummies...
i am looking at the northridge website now, and think i found what you were telling me people are running on their rigs....what is a track bar and track bar tower, bumpstop spacers(these are for the max travel on the springs, right?) and what does a rear stabilizer end link stabilize?

and how hard is this to do in the driveway?
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:40 PM   #9
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i have no problem with keeping them waxed, they just do it in socal so they can get worse gas mileage....and look cool.nothing wrong with a good looking vehicle at all. as soon as i got the opportunity (just happened to be the next stop) i went into a self serve car wash and got rid of all the mud....just makes me think of a funny example
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:55 PM   #10
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Well for lift stuff, I just had mine put on. So far it's just a BB (budget boost). A Rubicon Express 2". Came with new shocks, front and rear bump stops and front and rear spacers. I'm pretty new to all of this stuff too as I just got my 12 Jk in jan. Once my lift was on the rear was 2" to the right. Turns out if you do a lift you should get a rear track bar bracket (one that goes with the height of your lift). I got a Teraflex one for about $40. Still have to get it on though :/ As far as I know I might need some new sway bar links...
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I have the 3 inch
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:58 PM   #12
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BDS kit and I'm very happy with it running 275/65/R18 I believe they are almost 33'. I'd upgrade your whimpy stock steering stabilizer this kit came with one. It took me a while to pick a kit but BDS offers the best bang for its buck at 750$ and a lifetime warranty by the manufacturer no BS. Jared-
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:59 PM   #13
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Oh and spacers go above your springs, part of what lifts the jeep. The bumpstops keep your tires from jumping up into your fenders. The track bar... Well I think it helps keep the vehicle centered...could be wrong. You might be able to do it in the driveway/garage. I'm sure some on here have.
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BDS kit and I'm very happy with it running 275/65/R18 I believe they are almost 33'. I'd upgrade your whimpy stock steering stabilizer this kit came with one. It took me a while to pick a kit but BDS offers the best bang for its buck at 750$ and a lifetime warranty by the manufacturer no BS. Jared-
where did you find this one? i havent found one that had that kinda price, or a warranty.
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:16 PM   #15
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nevere mind, i googled bds kit.....im a genious
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:21 PM   #16
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Yeah check it out mate I got the 3 inch cause the next step they offer is 4.5 but you will need to do something about your front driveshaft..
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they offer is 4.5 but you will need to do something about your front driveshaft..
i think 4.5 is too much for what i want out of it now, and before i go replacing the front driveshaft on a brand spanking new vehicle, i might as well blow the sunuvabitch out....thanks for the help
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:29 PM   #18
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Yeah no problem you probably don't even have any rust on those puppies yet.
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:35 PM   #19
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12 days old....3200 miles, drove from San diego to Pensacola, with a few extra stops along the way......there better not be any rust!!
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Hhah right on good luck hope you eventually find exactly what your looking for!
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:47 PM   #21
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im sure i will, thanks for the help....haoppy wheeling!
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Old 03-07-2012, 01:10 AM   #22
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Unless you're planning on getting larger tires, you probably don't want to go higher than 2.5" or it will give you the 'roller skate' look. Since your tires are on the smaller side, might want to do a 2" lift. I think Rubicon Express makes a 2" kit.

You can save money if you get shock adapters instead of shocks, but new shocks that are correct for your lift size will give you a better ride.

Btw, what tires did you get? All terrain? Are you sure they're 265-75-16?
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You shouldnt need a lift at all to clear 31's... Stock Rubi tires are 32's.
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Where in SoCal are u? I'm in LA
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I'm looking into getting a Zone 3" lift for my '12 JKU. If you look in the special deals for members section you will see a few different vendor deals on the kit. There is even one with a video of what the install entails. Basically for ~$400 (Depending on which discounts you qualify for and who you go with) You get new Springs, Shocks, Rear Trackbar Brackets (to keep the rear end centered after the lift), Rear swaybar brackets (The old rears move to the front to compensate for the lift), new bumpstops and exhaust spacers since you need to move the exhaust slightly on the '12's to clear the front driveshaft on a lift. There is also some hardware to slightly move the brakelines to ensure you have enough slack at full extension.

That seems like everything you would want in a entry level lift kit. You could also potentially add an adjustable front trackbar to keep that more centered, but from what I've seen/read, the difference isn't worth bothering with on the front.
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2.5 TF bought with adapters.
Replaced with 5100's soon after

Like mentioned TF and RK's stock mod are great starter kits.

I've added TF's LCA's and ordered their front adj track bar. The kit uses a bracket for extending the rear.

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Unless you're planning on getting larger tires, you probably don't want to go higher than 2.5" or it will give you the 'roller skate' look. Since your tires are on the smaller side, might want to do a 2" lift. I think Rubicon Express makes a 2" kit.

You can save money if you get shock adapters instead of shocks, but new shocks that are correct for your lift size will give you a better ride.

Btw, what tires did you get? All terrain? Are you sure they're 265-75-16?
the tires fit just fine with the stock suspension, i just want more...and the ability to put bigger tires on it too when its time for new ones. when i was asked last night what size, i literally went out and took a picture of the tire with my cell, so yeah, im sure thats the right size. when i bought tires, i was immediatlly looking to put about 5000 miles on it, so they are more of a street tire.

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just left San Diego, and will be back in Azusa in 2 months or so
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Gotcha.

If you wanna install a lift that fits your current setup, but is still flexible enough to allow you to run larger tires in the future, go with the 2.5" lift. No need to mess with aftermarket driveshafts with the 2.5, and it'll accommodate up to a 35" tire, if you decide to go that way later on.

Adjustable trackbars and control arms often aren't included with lifts that size, because they're not always necessary. The TB's simply recenter your axle IF it gets pushed outta whack when you install your lift. The adj CA's are for setting your Jeep's caster. No other reasons to get either one.

Best bet, if you do go with a 2.5" lift, is to install it, then drive the Jeep and see how it rides/handles. If your steering feels twitchy on the freeway, then your caster is probably less than it should be (~ +4º - +6º), and you should add a pair of adjustable lower front control arms.

Your kit should come with springs, shocks, new sway bar end links and brake line relocation brackets. Some kits have new bump stops or extenders for existing bump stops. You don't need a new steering stabilizer unless your stock one is broken. The stocker is skinny, but it's just as good as most of the aftermarket ones. Don't waste your $$.

To run a 2.5" lift such as the TF with Bilstein 5100's (which is not listed on Northridge 4x4's site...you gotta call Dave and order it), you want wheels with backspacing around 4.5", or less. The smaller the #, the more your Jeep's wheels will stick out. Don't go too low, however, or it'll put unnecessary stress on your wheel bearings.

Since you've got a '12, if you buy new shocks with your kit you'll also need a TF exhaust spacer to give you more clearance between your stock driveshaft and the exhaust pipe crossover. Otherwise, the two will hit when you offroad, or when you disco your sway bar. The TF exhause spacer is around $50 and is simple to install.
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With that tire/wheel combo, I honestly wouldn't lift it. If you really want clearance, go with flat fenders. That way, if you decided you want 35's for your next wheels, you'll already be able to clear them or at worst, add a small lift and clear them. Just my two cents but even with sway links disconnected, I doubt you'd rub your current setup in even some relatively tough wheeling.

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