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Old 08-19-2010, 07:43 AM   #1
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Tailgate bar with the top down

I was wondering what everyone else does with the tailgate bar when taking their soft top down. I used to unzip the windows on each side up to the top, then slide the bottom out of the tailgate bar and throw the window flap on roof hinged at the zipper on top. Lately though, I've been just popping the whole bar off and throwing it on the roof before I bring it down. Seems quicker for me, but am going to end up doing some damage?

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Old 08-19-2010, 08:11 AM   #2
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I don't know. I leave it in. all I do is zip out the side windows, unhook everything in the front, and fold it all down. I don't even bother unzipping the rear window, so I never mess with that bar.

on days where I only want to zip out the windows, but leave the top up, I only unzip the rear. I push it down into the cargo bay, and throw 2 snatch straps on it to hold it down. once again, not messing around with that bar

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Old 08-19-2010, 08:33 AM   #3
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I unhook the rear bar and roll the window up then lower the top.
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I remove the window and bar. Store them at home, and pray it doesn't rain....
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If I'm reading the OP correctly, you are leaving your windows attached and folding everything down? That's a big mistake that is going to cost you money. Your windows need to be treated very gently. I would suggest getting one of these: Bestop 42810-09 - Bestop HOSS™ Window Storage Duffle in Charcoal For Bestop and Factory Zip Out Vinyl Windows - Quadratec If you leave your windows attached and fold them with the top, they will get scratched. Once they get scratched they start to turn opaque. Then they start to crack.

I carefully roll me windows in the Bestop window duffel and I replace the window bar in it's place on the back of the Jeep. The tailgate keeps it in place.
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Mine stays attached to the rear window. I either leave it at home with the windows, roll it up and strap it, or roll it up in the cloverpatch, but I have never removed it from the rear window.
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:04 AM   #7
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I always unzip the sides of the rear window, then roll the bar and window up together to put in the elastic loops before dropping the top. keeps it safe
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I unhook the rear bar and roll the window up then lower the top.

I do the same thing.
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I don't know. I leave it in. all I do is zip out the side windows, unhook everything in the front, and fold it all down. I don't even bother unzipping the rear window, so I never mess with that bar.

on days where I only want to zip out the windows, but leave the top up, I only unzip the rear. I push it down into the cargo bay, and throw 2 snatch straps on it to hold it down. once again, not messing around with that bar

What model wrangler do you have? I don't understand how you can lower the top without unhooking the rear window in some fashion in order to get the rigid corners out of the way.

BTW...I flip the corners up on to the top before letting it down. With that and the rear window and bar rolled up, it all folds and tucks down nicely with nothing flopping around while driving.
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I always unzip the sides of the rear window, then roll the bar and window up together to put in the elastic loops before dropping the top. keeps it safe
Same here, just roll it all up and throw the top back. I have never removed the bar from the window no need.
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What model wrangler do you have? I don't understand how you can lower the top without unhooking the rear window in some fashion in order to get the rigid corners out of the way.

BTW...I flip the corners up on to the top before letting it down. With that and the rear window and bar rolled up, it all folds and tucks down nicely with nothing flopping around while driving.
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once that stuff above the windshield is unhooked, and that thing above the doors, I just swing the entire thing back. I never unzip the rear window, just remove the side windows and throw them in the backseat. those corners at the rear disconnect themselves once there's no stretch and everything just folds on top of itself.

when I swing it back up, 75% of the time the corners stay lined up because of that bar, so they self attach.

only problem I have is connecting it back to the windshield, especially below 70. it's a real mother. I have a foot gap sometimes to stretch out to make it latch.
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Why not just remove the rear window from the bar, roll up all the windows then reinstall the bar.
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Why not just remove the rear window from the bar, roll up all the windows then reinstall the bar.
That's what I said.
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Sorry Tom did read your entire post.
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oops.....I mean did "not" read your entire post.
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If I'm reading the OP correctly, you are leaving your windows attached and folding everything down? That's a big mistake that is going to cost you money. Your windows need to be treated very gently. I would suggest getting one of these: Bestop 42810-09 - Bestop HOSS™ Window Storage Duffle in Charcoal For Bestop and Factory Zip Out Vinyl Windows - Quadratec If you leave your windows attached and fold them with the top, they will get scratched. Once they get scratched they start to turn opaque. Then they start to crack.

I carefully roll me windows in the Bestop window duffel and I replace the window bar in it's place on the back of the Jeep. The tailgate keeps it in place.
I live in IL , so come May my soft windows are all out. if it rains it rains. I take the bar and window out roll it up and store it at home. had jeep before and left the soft windows in or folded, and they get scratched and crack you can't see out of them. they are very delicate when it comes to dirt and folding. would never store them in the car. That's $400 of equipment you can loose out on if someone grabs them out. no car alarm keeps someone from jumping in and out with anything they can grab.
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Thanks for the replies. I thought I'd save time by not having to slide the bottom of the window out from the tailgate bar each time by just popping the bar out and tossing it on the roof, but it sounds like it'd be just as easy to unzip the whole thing and take it out. Definately not leaving any of the windows in when the top comes down though.

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