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Old 03-24-2010, 09:02 PM   #1
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Taking the doors off.

Today while I had some time I figured I would take off the front of the roof and the doors. I watched the dvd manual 3 times, and could find nothing on door removal. Looked through the paper work and only found paper work for the two front sections of the roof. But with 36 years in the automotive industry at AMC and Chrysler I was able to figure it out. Damn near put a dent in the drives side with the mirror when the door swung forward. Didn't know that I could move fast enough to stop it, but I did. Was interesting driving with no doors. It was more interesting driving with no mirrors. Wisconsin doesn't require them if there is a inside mirror. I'll have to look for some kind of mirrors I can put on when the doors are off.

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I have been reading about this topic around here. There is a mirror relocation kit that uses the stock mirrors and moves them to a bracket on the side by the windshield from the doors. I have also read that you can pick up a motorcycle mirror and put it into the hinge hole. I'm thinking this is what I'll do. If i can find a mirror for cheap it will be perfect.

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Old 03-24-2010, 09:11 PM   #3
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m/c mirror is a good idea. I think I'll go off to the land of EBAY and see what they have. Thanks.
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Wisconsin doesn't require them if there is a inside mirror. .
I may be wrong here but I thought it was a federal law that required at least one outside mirror on the drivers side?
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You can buy a long stem M/C mirror off ebay for cheap. I think I'll do that as I don't like the plastic covers that go where your mirrors were when you use the relocation kit. I need something because driving without doors equals
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I may be wrong here but I thought it was a federal law that required at least one outside mirror on the drivers side?
It is a state issue. Ga only requires one mirror and the inside mirror meets the standards.
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The only problem with the Mirror Relocation Brackets, is that the Passenger Side Mirror is almost useless. The Brackets mount the Mirrors a little more forward, which moves the Passenger Mirror out of view for the Driver.

I'd go with the Motorcycle Mirror on the Hinges, as mentioned above. You'd be able to use both the Driver's and Passengers Mirrors, with that setup.

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Damn near put a dent in the drives side with the mirror when the door swung forward.
That dimple is VERY common on Jeeps. Here at work, our brand new '10 JK got that dent with only about 50 miles on the Jeep. Some jerk in marketing forgot to put the retaining strap back on. And I'm still getting crap for it
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The only problem with the Mirror Relocation Brackets, is that the Passenger Side Mirror is TOTALLY useless. The Brackets mount the Mirrors a little more forward, which moves the Passenger Mirror out of view for the Driver.

I'd go with the Motorcycle Mirror on the Hinges, as mentioned above. You'd be able to use both the Driver's and Passengers Mirrors, with that setup.

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Adding - for those of you who run around with no doors - do you really have to take the back window out? I never did with all my CJs and didn't have any problems. I note that the owner's manual for the Wrangler says to take the window out if going over 40 mph....

Fixed that for you ---
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Adding - for those of you who run around with no doors - do you really have to take the back window out? I never did with all my CJs and didn't have any problems. I note that the owner's manual for the Wrangler says to take the window out if going over 40 mph....

Fixed that for you ---
The worry is that the back of your Jeep will "overfill" with air and it will blow out your soft top. So you just need somewhere for that air to ho. Unzipping a back window a little might be enough, or it might not be enough air to cause a problem, as in your case.

But a door-less Jeep scoops in a LOT of air when you're going fast, and it's worth thinking about how to deal with all that air.
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Adding - for those of you who run around with no doors - do you really have to take the back window out? I never did with all my CJs and didn't have any problems. I note that the owner's manual for the Wrangler says to take the window out if going over 40 mph....

Fixed that for you ---
CJ tops snapped to the body. JK's have a plastic edge that fits in a slot.
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Post a link to those Ebay motorcycle mirrors when you find it.
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I run the relocation brackets and stuck one of those little convex stick on mirrors in the corner of my passenger side mirror. Helps a lot with passenger side visibility. Oh, and if anyone goes this route, don't buy the Mopars. They are just the Rugged Ridge with an extra $20 in cost. It even says Rugged Ridge handles the warranty!
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I had the mirrors that relocated and they rusted to the Jeep...was pretty bad on my TJ. On my JK I have mirrors that fit in the door hinge when I take the doors off. This is similar to what i have: Olympic 4x4 Products 117-124 - Olympic 4X4 Products Safari Mirrors for 76-10 Jeep® CJ-5, CJ-7 & CJ-8 Scrambler, Wrangler YJ, TJ, JK & Unlimited - Quadratec
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I run the single Mopar relocation bracket- took 10 minutes to install, cost ~$70, and came with a new mirror, so you keep the OEM's on the doors, and can keep that one as a spare. No shipping charge, too- go to your dealership and ask for it in the parts department- Mark W.
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P.S. The door bolts are Torx T-50's, and that dent is on both Briana's and my JK's- stupid wind Mark W.
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Today while I had some time I figured I would take off the front of the roof and the doors. I watched the dvd manual 3 times, and could find nothing on door removal. Looked through the paper work and only found paper work for the two front sections of the roof. But with 36 years in the automotive industry at AMC and Chrysler I was able to figure it out. Damn near put a dent in the drives side with the mirror when the door swung forward. Didn't know that I could move fast enough to stop it, but I did. Was interesting driving with no doors. It was more interesting driving with no mirrors. Wisconsin doesn't require them if there is a inside mirror. I'll have to look for some kind of mirrors I can put on when the doors are off.
So what did you learn that the rest of us can use so we don't damage the doors during removal. The last doors I removed were off a YJ.

Thanks

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