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Old 07-26-2011, 04:21 PM   #1
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Talking TeraFlex 1.5 leveling kit on stock JKU



Considering this as my first (only?) lift and going with new wheels at some point in a few months, possibly 33s. For those of you with this kit, do you need to add any thing else? Qtec site has a statement in there where I "may" need additional work. Any truth to that? I hate the word "may" when considering buying my first real mod.

You can run a 33-34" tall tire with this kit. If you prefer to run the factory wheels you may need wheel spacers for proper clearance.

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Will NOT need anything else until you run into 35" or more. If your getting 33" with new wheels you will be buying a wheel with the proper back spacing anyway. No worries, btw I absolutely love the kit.

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No, nothing else will be needed. If you go with 33x12.5 tires on your stock wheels, you will need spacers at that point. Or go with wheels with 4.75 backspacing or less.
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That's great to know because I'm looking at doing the same thing in the future.

Post pics when you get it done so we can see!!
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Will do. Are they hard to install or am I better of taking them to a dealer or Jeff Daniel's Jeep? I'm NOT mechanically inclined....
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:38 PM   #6
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Are they hard to install or am I better of taking them to a dealer or Jeff Daniel's Jeep? I'm NOT mechanically inclined....
If you've got tool and time, you should be able to do it yourself. Q-tec allows you to download PDFs of the directions for most of their kits.

Here's a description from another thread regarding a similar lift should give you the idea of what's involved:

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Unless you have a coil compressor, you'll need to droop the axles farther than you think to get your coils out and reinserted with the spacers over them.

You'll need a level concrete/asphalt surface, a floor jack, two (preferably four) jack stands, a good selection of socket wrenches, a torque wrench, and several hours. It looks like you're doing bumpstops too, so I guess a drill is in order though I've never done bumpstops. If you haven't used the floor jack already, practice raising and lowering the pumpkin of the Jeep just a few inches or so thereby getting used to the hydraulic release.

Jack up front axle slightly; jack stands go under it; front wheels off; disconnect lower portion of sway bar links; disconnect lower portion of shocks; disconnect the brake line bracket; jack up front axle quite high; jack stands go under frame behind wheel well area; lower hydraulic release allowing axle to droop; make sure to keep an eye on the brake lines; periodically try to twist coils and eventually they'll come loose or you need to raise Jeep higher to get more droop; remove coils and coil isolater will probably fall out; I assume you install the bumpstops at this point; put coil isolater back unless told not to by the directions; insert coil spacer and coil; jack axle back up and remove jack stands from frame area; lower jeep to point where wheels can be reattached and the tires will only be an inch or so off the ground; put jack stands back under axle; reattach sway bar links, shocks, and brake line bracket; put back on wheels; remove jack stands from front axle. Make sure shocks and wheels are torqued to spec.

Repeat on rear axle. Check torques after 500 miles.
If that sounds too aggressive, you could of course have a dealer do it, but I'd definitely price check against a decent local 4x4 shop.

The impact on your warranty will be minimal no matter who does the install and having the dealer do the work doesn't matter in that regard one way or the other.
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Thanks Mike! Yea, I saw the PDF, but I'd break something.

Tell me to build a PC or infrastructure IT/IS systems from common household items and keep it secure, I can do it.

Tell me to tighten a bolt, and I often look like a dog who is being read Atlas Shrugged.
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Not difficult at all. Qtec send the directions in the box. Took me a friend about 3 hours total time and that was including the case of adult beverages.
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I dunno. If it costs me 100 or more and have piece of mind that it won't shoot off on the ride home, I am inclined to pay.
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I dunno. If it costs me 100 or more and have piece of mind that it won't shoot off on the ride home, I am inclined to pay.
I'd guess $400ish.
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I dunno. If it costs me 100 or more and have piece of mind that it won't shoot off on the ride home, I am inclined to pay.
Just have a lift party and provide the beer and pizza and I'm sure you can get it handled. There have even been some folks who have simply disconnected the sway bar end links and lower shock bolts, loosened the control arms, flexed the corners one at a time with a jack, pull the spring, install the spacers, reverse the procedure. Even know of a couple guys who didn't even remove the tires and had the whole thing done in 45-60 minutes. Of course, I'm sure this would be different if you went with the performance leveling kit, which is new coils versus spacers.

I have the spacer kit sitting at my house right now awaiting my return from vacation.
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Just have a lift party and provide the beer and pizza and I'm sure you can get it handled.
That's a good idea. Somebody on the forum that lives nearby may be willing to help. ESP123 helped install mine.
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Considering this as my first (only?) lift and going with new wheels at some point in a few months, possibly 33s. For those of you with this kit, do you need to add any thing else? Qtec site has a statement in there where I "may" need additional work. Any truth to that? I hate the word "may" when considering buying my first real mod.

You can run a 33-34" tall tire with this kit. If you prefer to run the factory wheels you may need wheel spacers for proper clearance.

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I think what they are saying there is if you put wider tires on the factory rims you may need wheel spacers due to the width of the bigger tires. Like 4fit said, if you get new wheels with proper backspacing for a wider tire this won't be an issue.
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I'd guess $400ish.
Just to install it? Or 400 including the lift price? My god, what have I done purchasing another Jeep!

Anyone in PA care to help? I own maybe a phillips head and a socket set. Kidding, I have some minor tools, but not sure I have the proper stuff. Damn!
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Just to install it? Or 400 including the lift price? My god, what have I done purchasing another Jeep!

Anyone in PA care to help? I own maybe a phillips head and a socket set. Kidding, I have some minor tools, but not sure I have the proper stuff. Damn!
Yep about $280 for the install and then around $90 to align. You can do the lift by your self with the right tools and 1-2 ton floor jacks. Read up on how to do it and see if someone around you can help who has wrenched on a JK before. Give it a try because you'll be more proud if it's done by your hands and you'll be qualified to give lift instal instructions and help to others.
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Just to install it?
Yep--it was just a guess, but figure a few hours work at what, $50 to $85 per hour or so? Like ESP123 said, then they'll want to sell you an alignment, which is probably justified with a 2" front coil spacer. I'm sure it'll vary from place to place, but that'd be my guess and it looks like it's right around what ESP123 has been told.

Have you checked out the local threads to you in the Pa section? No doubt there are folks within 30 minutes of your house who can do this stuff in their sleep.
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Going now.
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You need an 18mm and 19mm socket wrench and wrench, a 1-2 ton jack and about 2 hours max (if not enjoying company and beers). It really is a simple procedure and like others said, once you did it you will be proud of it.
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Where in PA r u?? I did a RC 2.5" by myself because most local shops want about $80.00 per hr for labor or around $90 per axle, in the end after tax and misc BS they all want about $400 just to install. PM me if you want we can probably figure out something.
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I posted in the PA forums. I am in the Green Lane state park area. About 45 min from Norristown, 20 from Collegeville/Ursinus area.
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Check your PM if you need help we can get together. I'm about an hour from you.
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Cool, replied. Just need to open up the wallet and just buy. As long as this is a decent kit, I might do it tomorrow. Is this a good one for under 150? Are there any others that are comparable that gives more value for the buck?
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Cool, replied. Just need to open up the wallet and just buy. As long as this is a decent kit, I might do it tomorrow. Is this a good one for under 150? Are there any others that are comparable that gives more value for the buck?
Lots of folks run this kit. There's not really much that can go wrong with them--pucks don't wear out. I've heard some folks having trouble with the sway links over time, though I think that's the minority.

As to price, maybe take a look at what Rough Country is offering to in that price range, they're a "discount" type of seller. Also just go to q-tec's site and sort the lift kits from lowest to highest price. Not much out there in a pre-made kit below $130 that includes a set of sway links and all 4 pucks.
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I didn't read the whole thread but is the OP installing the puck kit over the spring performance kit? Isn't the puck kit 1.75"?
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I didn't read the whole thread but is the OP installing the puck kit over the spring performance kit? Isn't the puck kit 1.75"?
I think he's going for this puck kit. According to it's Q-tec page: "This leveling kit adds 2" to the front and 1" to the rear effectively leveling the 2 or 4 door's factory rake stance. The kit comes with front sway bar links." I tend to think it "overcorrects" a little bit, though that's just me.
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You need an 18mm and 19mm socket wrench and wrench, a 1-2 ton jack and about 2 hours max (if not enjoying company and beers). It really is a simple procedure and like others said, once you did it you will be proud of it.
I would recommend a torque wrench as well. Also, I was advised by a Teraflex rep that it would be wise to loosen, but not remove, the control arm bolts as well as the track bar bolt and then retorque them once the vehicle is on the ground and has been given a good shake side to side and back to front. This will help prevent the bushings from binding up at the new angles the lift causes.
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Thanks for the info all, still did not click buy. I'm kinda scared. Hold me. I know once I start I won't stop! Lol
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Going to purchase them tomorrow once I can get in touch with the qtec rep to see if they can discount the shipping or if I can drive over and pick them up from west Chester. Have a pm to the discount tire guy for a quote on the duratracs, and just need to pick a weekend and get dirty. Pics to follow some day.
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I am considering the same kit, or AEV's version. want to add 33's soon.. lift/level first
talked to AEV- he sold me on the leveling kit (2"front,1"rear) . does anyone know if these kits are basically the same . TF and AEV / really wanted the full 2.5" TF lift, but I am just planning on 33x12.5x17 wheels Rugged ridge very soon. not looking for anything too outrageous..

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