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Old 09-01-2013, 05:59 PM   #61
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That is $770 for tire carrier and bumper. How can you compete with that? And the fact that it moves the weight to the frame. That is what I was really comparing. I wasn't saying that the others were less then $800.
I didnt know it existed, so i stand corrected. It may be your taste. IF you want that bumper and tire carrier.

The hinge offers the versatility to choose any bumper.

I personally would opt for the teraflex hinge and the stock bumper until I could afford to upgrade the bumper later if cost is whats driving your decision.

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Old 09-01-2013, 06:24 PM   #62
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I didnt know it existed, so i stand corrected. It may be your taste. IF you want that bumper and tire carrier.

The hinge offers the versatility to choose any bumper.

I personally would opt for the teraflex hinge and the stock bumper until I could afford to upgrade the bumper later if cost is whats driving your decision.
But doesn't the hinge still rely on the thin sheet metal body?

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Old 09-01-2013, 08:10 PM   #63
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Plus ya have the $110 shipping on the highrock. It's nice though.
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But doesn't the hinge still rely on the thin sheet metal body?

Actually I just watched the teraflex movie and according to it there is plenty of support under the sheet metal to support the weight.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:30 PM   #65
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Plus ya have the $110 shipping on the highrock. It's nice though.
I live close enough to pick it up myself but I know that doesn't apply to many but they offer a discount for WF members which could help pay for the shipping or make it free.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:58 PM   #66
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One thing about some tire carriers is that they aren't centered which looks awful IMO. The TF tire carrier plus MC bumper is about $400 cheaper than most combos and about 100lbs lighter. I'm very happy so far with this combo.
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The off center thing. I still don't believe that bothers some people.
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Old 09-01-2013, 10:33 PM   #68
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The off center thing. I still don't believe that bothers some people.
Makes me wanna walk outside and strike a garden gnome. An off centered spare would make me go off the deep end.
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The off center thing. I still don't believe that bothers some people.
Off centered axle annoyed me also so I bought a trackbar. My hoist is off center in my garage and beats me down looking at it. Worse yet it makes it harder to center my Jeep to remove hardtop. I need things to be centered.
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That is $770 for tire carrier and bumper. How can you compete with that? And the fact that it moves the weight to the frame. That is what I was really comparing. I wasn't saying that the others were less then $800.
Well for one, you have to have THAT bumper and tire combo. With my TF hinge, I've had it with a Mopar Offroad bumper, No bumper, a Rugged Ridge Aluminum bumper and currently the AEV bumper that came with my MW3.
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$470 is just the hinge, correct? Don't you need to use the TF tire mount with the hinge?
No. You can use the stock tire holder. Works fine for most bumpers with up to 35" tires.
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But doesn't the hinge still rely on the thin sheet metal body?
No. Hinge mounts solid. As others have said, once you get it, you won't worry about it. It will take the weight.
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Old 09-02-2013, 08:29 AM   #73
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So I got mine off of ebay for $474 free shipping and have had it for 3 weeks. It's so solid and so sound. No rattles No worries. I even stood on top of my 35" with the tailgate open and nothing it's just that quality.

Back when I was just running a stock carrier I would cringe every time I saw a bump in the road or had to get over something....you all know the feeling
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So this will hold a 35" tire, 10gal of gas , high lift, and cb antenna with no rattles and will not ruin the weak metal body that the hinge is attached to even after a few years of taking big bumps off road?

I love the idea, my only concern is the attachment to the body is still the way it is stock. Should I be concerned about this? I always thought that this is the reason people buy the tire carriers is to take the weight off of the body and move it to the frame. Can someone please clarify for me?
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So this will hold a 35" tire, 10gal of gas , high lift, and cb antenna with no rattles and will not ruin the weak metal body that the hinge is attached to even after a few years of taking big bumps off road?

I love the idea, my only concern is the attachment to the body is still the way it is stock. Should I be concerned about this? I always thought that this is the reason people buy the tire carriers is to take the weight off of the body and move it to the frame. Can someone please clarify for me?

Watch this TF movie.. particularly at 1:47..




Makes sense to me...

I think this hinge will be in my mod future.. However I'd like to see if I can get away with just the hinge and the factory tire carrier for a 35" KM2.. I think it should be fine.
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I see it now. It does look very promising but my main issue now is price: $500 for just the hinge and another $200 of my tire won't fit with factory carrier? They are sounding more like aev pricing.
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Here it is with the stock carrier.Duratrac 315/70/17 on 17x9 Rugged Ridge w/4.5 backspace.The tire sits right in the stock bumper cutout.I did use Daystar tirestops that were modified in lenth.I have ran this now for 4000 miles and everything is great.Also you can wash behind if needed and third brakelight cleared with no mods!Hope this helps!
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I see it now. It does look very promising but my main issue now is price: $500 for just the hinge and another $200 of my tire won't fit with factory carrier? They are sounding more like aev pricing.
You get what u pay for??
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:23 PM   #80
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You get what u pay for??
What I am saying is like before; why not at that point get a tire carrier that mounts to the rear bumper. That is my whole issue with this. I like the idea and if it was $300 or less i would be using it right now.

I am sure this is the right product if someone who just spent all of their money on a lift and 35+ tires and didn't factor in/ can't afford a real tire carrier that mounts to a bumper. So they can buy this to hold their tire now and spend the money on a bumper later down the road. I get that.

I don't have unlimited money to dump into my jeep but I would rather save up my money and wait a little while longer to get exactly what I want as well as the best thing for my jeep. That is my whole philosophy about this product. Which is why I am sort of a proponent to this tire carrier and its price.
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So if I use my stock carrier, I wonder if I can still relo the 3rd tail light. I totally like the idea of using my stock carrier. That's a $200 savings!

Funny thing? I'm still running stock EVERYTHING! Guess I have to start somewhere...lol
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There are other products, bumper mounted carriers that are centered and open in one action with the tailgate? If the cost is close, yeah, why not go with that?
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There are other products, bumper mounted carriers that are centered and open in one action with the tailgate? If the cost is close, yeah, why not go with that?
That is what I am saying.
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So if I use my stock carrier, I wonder if I can still relo the 3rd tail light. I totally like the idea of using my stock carrier. That's a $200 savings!

Funny thing? I'm still running stock EVERYTHING! Guess I have to start somewhere...lol
Yes you can relocate the 3rd brake light while running stock carrier.... but quite frankly, the 3rd brake light still works with my Duratrac 315/70/R17's so I haven't bothered.
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Now I'm torn...lol good thread though... thanks to all!
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That is what I am saying.

The thing is, I can see your point if you were running a tire that REQUIRED you to buy the $200 carrier.. but if this hinge works with the factory tire carrier (for up to 35" tires I believe), then the hinge may be the most cost effective even at ~$500.

With this hinge you don't have to worry about sag, corrosion, more than one gate to open, etc etc.

The more I'm thinking about it, honestly the more I like it.

I don't think there are too many bumper/tire carriers out there that are half decent for ~$500..

$700, yeah maybe.. but not $500..

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Here it is with the stock carrier.Duratrac 315/70/17 on 17x9 Rugged Ridge w/4.5 backspace.The tire sits right in the stock bumper cutout.I did use Daystar tirestops that were modified in lenth.I have ran this now for 4000 miles and everything is great.Also you can wash behind if needed and third brakelight cleared with no mods!Hope this helps!

Your Jeep looks great!

Where exactly did you use the daystar stops? Can you please post a pic?
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I had to move my tire higher to clear my LoD bumper. The bumper has a tool box built into it and is not cut as deep as other bumpers. The TeraFlex hinge and tire carrier were just what I needed. I have my 315x75x16 tire mounted to the 37" tire holes in the TeraFlex carrier to clear my bumper. I love the setup. I'm going to relocate my tag to the center of the tire next.

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The thing is, I can see your point if you were running a tire that REQUIRED you to buy the $200 carrier.. but if this hinge works with the factory tire carrier (for up to 35" tires I believe), then the hinge may be the most cost effective even at ~$500.

With this hinge you don't have to worry about sag, corrosion, more than one gate to open, etc etc.

The more I'm thinking about it, honestly the more I like it.

I don't think there are too many bumper/tire carriers out there that are half decent for ~$500..

$700, yeah maybe.. but not $500..

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So more then likely if you buy this then you don't plan on upgrading rear bumper correct?
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Slightly off topic, but I love the look of your wheels !

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