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Old 08-26-2013, 10:13 PM   #1
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Teraflex Hinged Carrier.....Genius.

I dont know how they did it, but I do know that its one part that i would suggest to anyone. Mainly, because it makes any bumper one that the tire will swing with the tailgate.

I wanted a low profile rear bumper but was scared to run without the tire. I'd never bought anything from Teraflex before. I do enjoy their videos tho, I find that wood guy pretty entertaining, while informative.

I was going to 37s, and didn't want a separate swing away tire carrier. I HATE those.

My favorite part is that they say to set the tire against the rear door. Meaning that you dont want to leave any space from the tire to the tailgate. No more spacers holding the tire. Its super tight to the body.

One other point that I like Is that Im holding a 37 on the 3rd highest setting, so with the brake light relocation bracket, (moves the brake light in front of tire, rather than above) I actually have better rear visibility now with the 37 KM2 rather than the 34 duratrac (on the stock tire carrier)

Point being, you can hold a larger tire lower so that you can gain rear visibility.
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I installed mine today too, you think it will hold up long term with that single connect point? Feels strong but still not sure about the weight on that single side; that tire is heavy.



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I totally understand the stronger piece attachment but everything is still being connected and held by the hinge! Isn't the hinge the weakest point? If so, what's the point???
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I run my TF with 315's Duratracs and have had zero problems. I don't think running 37's would be a problem.
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very nice ... first the lift then replenish and this will be the first purchase. It looks great. Question - what did you use under the door to hold it in place?

By the way Teraflex customer service is fantastic, they have been very helpful to me.

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I totally understand the stronger piece attachment but everything is still being connected and held by the hinge! Isn't the hinge the weakest point? If so, what's the point???
The problem with the factory setup is that the tailgate carries the load, which eventually leads to popped spot welds, cracks, and noise. The Teraflex setup has a much stronger hinge and takes the load off the tailgate. The hinge attachment points on the Jeep are reinforced and can handle the load. Essentially you end up with a swing away tire carrier with a tailgate bolted to it, rather that a swing away gate with a tire bolted to it.
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The problem with the factory setup is that the tailgate carries the load, which eventually leads to popped spot welds, cracks, and noise. The Teraflex setup has a much stronger hinge and takes the load off the tailgate. The hinge attachment points on the Jeep are reinforced and can handle the load. Essentially you end up with a swing away tire carrier with a tailgate bolted to it, rather that a swing away gate with a tire bolted to it.
Hm time to look at it from a different perspective... stock setup still has the load on the hinges. Its exactly the same setup (oem) as the theraflex if you look at it, just that the whole setup is the hinges only. It just so happens the teraflex extends beyond the hinges to act as a brace for rigidness up to the point where the tire is held so the gate does not "flex" under vibration. Same concept as stock, just reinforced at the hinges and through the gate's body (think of it as a truss). The tire is still bolted to the tailgate through the teraflex brace, it just does not rip apart the inside welds due to the added rigidness of the brace. If you pull and push the tire, some load will still be transferred to the inside of the tailgate (as its still bolted to it), its just too little due to the added strength.

It seems to hold up well to regular usage, but I really want to know what happens when the tire is smacked going down an obstacle or during an unfortunate event that you get rear ended. I believe the full force will somehow affect the insides of the tailgate where the tire mount is bolted on.
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This looks great! Hmm... This vs. an off center Warn tire mount (use with the Elite rear bumper)...? Looks like it'll fit a 35" tire just fine. Curious how it'll hold up in the long run though. Certainly seems tougher than the stock setup, but is it as strong as a bumper attached tire carrier? Wondering if it even matters if a 35" tire is as big as I'll go... Deep thoughts...
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This looks great! Hmm... This vs. an off center Warn tire mount (use with the Elite rear bumper)...? Looks like it'll fit a 35" tire just fine. Curious how it'll hold up in the long run though. Certainly seems tougher than the stock setup, but is it as strong as a bumper attached tire carrier? Wondering if it even matters if a 35" tire is as big as I'll go... Deep thoughts...
In the long run it will be more than fine, specially for a 35.
As for your other question, it will never be as strong as a steel carrier arm attached to a steel bumper. But it is miles lighter and more convenient for some, not many need the protection offered by steel carriers.
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After watching a spare tire getting bent upward from a steep angle climb I pretty much ruled out tire carriers attached to the tub.

I like the ability to run any bumper you want tho.
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For those of you that have this carrier, how close do you mount the tire to the carrier. Do you make sure it is touching and if so do you use any other "bumpers" to ensure the tire is in contact on both sides?

I have about an inch of clearance all the way around which I like because I can clean behind the tire very easily, but want to make sure this will not cause any long term issues because of lack of support.
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For those of you that have this carrier, how close do you mount the tire to the carrier. Do you make sure it is touching and if so do you use any other "bumpers" to ensure the tire is in contact on both sides?

I have about an inch of clearance all the way around which I like because I can clean behind the tire very easily, but want to make sure this will not cause any long term issues because of lack of support.
I have it touching.. i figured the closer the better.
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Looks good and probably what the dealer should do to my new (13) when they put the lift and 315's on next week. Definently don't want the stress wearing out the hinges.
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Mine is touching and I don't run anything on the other side. No problems so far in 8K.
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Think of it this way. You could mount the hinge and carrier without the tailgate and it would work. Once you have that image in your head, now you realize that the tailgate is just bolted to the hinge and carrier.
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very nice ... first the lift then replenish and this will be the first purchase. It looks great. Question - what did you use under the door to hold it in place?

By the way Teraflex customer service is fantastic, they have been very helpful to me.

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In my pictures the stuff I jammed under the door was the foam from the artec industries rear axle truss packaging. It was very dense.
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This looks great! Hmm... This vs. an off center Warn tire mount (use with the Elite rear bumper)...? Looks like it'll fit a 35" tire just fine. Curious how it'll hold up in the long run though. Certainly seems tougher than the stock setup, but is it as strong as a bumper attached tire carrier? Wondering if it even matters if a 35" tire is as big as I'll go... Deep thoughts...
weather this carrier will hold 200lbs vs a standard bumper connected carrier that will hold 250 lbs (im making those numbers up)

Either is plenty for any reasonable tire wheel combo. Also, when you lift the hinge, you'll know it couldnt be much beefier.

The beneifits of increased rear view and tightness to the body outweigh the benefits of any bumper connected tire carrier.
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I guess the major question everyone seems to be asking is where exactly does the stock tailgate/carrier fail when too large a load is placed on it?

If it fails with the actual tire carrier piece and not the hinges, then I can understand why this would alleviate that problem. But if it fails in the hinges, this shouldn't fix anything.
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For those of you that have this carrier, how close do you mount the tire to the carrier. Do you make sure it is touching and if so do you use any other "bumpers" to ensure the tire is in contact on both sides?

I have about an inch of clearance all the way around which I like because I can clean behind the tire very easily, but want to make sure this will not cause any long term issues because of lack of support.
you want the tire pressed to the hinge. The hinge acts as the bumper stailizing the tire.

However, the hinge is probably over an inch deep so there is some space to get a rag in there.

I'll post a pic.
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I guess the major question everyone seems to be asking is where exactly does the stock tailgate/carrier fail when too large a load is placed on it?

If it fails with the actual tire carrier piece and not the hinges, then I can understand why this would alleviate that problem. But if it fails in the hinges, this shouldn't fix anything.
If you referring to the stock tire carrier, its where the stock carrier connects to the tail gate. that connection will fail before the stock steel hinges fail.

but either way, when the failure happens, you've lost the tailgate.

The point of the teraflex hinge is that its strong enough to hold the tire on its own. You connect it to the tailgate just for the purpose of opening the tailgate with the tire.

Im pretty sure if you bolted the hinge to the truck(not tailgate), but bolted nothing to the tailgate itself, it would still hold a 37" tire.

Nothing is holding the tailgate up but the teraflex hinge.
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Think of it this way. You could mount the hinge and carrier without the tailgate and it would work. Once you have that image in your head, now you realize that the tailgate is just bolted to the hinge and carrier.
I just tried to explain this exact thing, but this guy ^^ said it better.
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Looks great. What's the cheapest anyone has been able to find this?
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I love my Teraflex hinge and tire carrier. With the bumper I have (LoD tool box bumper) I needed to mount my 315x75x16 KM2's to the highest setting to clear the the bumper. The LoD bumper I have is not notched as deep as other bumpers to make room for the tool box in the bumper. The wheel and tire do not move back there at all. One of my better mods.
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Here's a shot of mine, 37x12.5 km2 on the back. Third highest setting.
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you want the tire pressed to the hinge. The hinge acts as the bumper stailizing the tire.

However, the hinge is probably over an inch deep so there is some space to get a rag in there.

I'll post a pic.
good to know, I definitely need it tighter then. So my assumption is that I just toss the OEM bumpers then because the remaining one definitely will no longer fit. You plug up the old hole with anything or just leave it open?
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You plug up the old hole with anything or just leave it open?
I left the hole open 'cause it didn't occur to me to fill it with anything. There is another thread here where someone trimmed the rubber bump thing and used it to plug the hole. Seemed genius to me but I didn't want to take mine aoart and do it again.

FWIW, I like the TF hinge.
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good to know, I definitely need it tighter then. So my assumption is that I just toss the OEM bumpers then because the remaining one definitely will no longer fit. You plug up the old hole with anything or just leave it open?
mine is open right now, but I'll probably plug it with something.
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good to know, thanks for the help. I definitely love that the carrier puts the tire right in the middle and it seems like visibility is still pretty good
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good to know, thanks for the help. I definitely love that the carrier puts the tire right in the middle and it seems like visibility is still pretty good
Visibility actually sucks, but it does look good centered. Looks stock which I like.
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Visibility actually sucks, but it does look good centered. Looks stock which I like.
How high did you mount your tire? My 37 is halfway down. Could you adjust your mounting to lower the tire?

My tire right now is lower than the brake light used to be.

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