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Old 03-08-2013, 10:17 AM   #271
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a couple questions... are you lifted? what size tires? if so, how do you intend to change a flat tire with the stock jack??
I have this base that adds 3.5" to the stock scissor jack:

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It claims to be able to be used for tires up to 37", but I haven't tested it yet with my 35" tires and 2.5" (actually 3.5") RK lift, although lift height shouldn't really matter anyway. I also carry a bottle jack, and I have a floor jack if I'm at home.

I'm still on the fence about adding a hi-lift.

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gotcha. just want to ensure you have something... I have an AEV jack base also... my buddy (without hi-lift) is holding it since i have a jack.


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a couple questions... are you lifted? what size tires? if so, how do you intend to change a flat tire with the stock jack??
2.5" lift and 33" tires. I intend to use my bottle jack, like I always do
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It was determined and validated by Teraflex that anything over a 2-gal can would hit the brake light when you open the tail gate.
I understand this, but the 4 gal tank is just basically 2 -2 gal tanks joined length ways, no?...I have no idea, as I've never seen them, I just thought the limiting factor would be the thickness of the tank
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So TF makes a separate bracket that bolts on to Hi-Lift for rotopax ?

Did not see it on there web site.

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picture and part number for the rotopax accessory mount (to the hi-lift)....

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Old 03-08-2013, 11:33 AM   #277
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The Rotopax bracket is part number 4838230. I have one sitting on the bench waiting to be installed.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:58 PM   #278
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Will lowest setting interfere with the tail lights?
I misread your question when I answered no in my response post 257. The correct answer is yes. When the Rotopax is mounted on the Jack it will have to remain above the plane of the taillight or it will come in contact with the taillight when the tailgate is opened about 80% of the way. The pics tell the story. Pic 1 shows the tailgate opened all the way. Note that the Rotopax must pass over the taillight. Any lower and it will hit. The other two pics with the tailgate closed show how this will look with the container in the lowest position that will clear the taillight. Sorry for the initially incorrect response.
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Rotopax Mounted Without the Jack

Here is the accessory mount without the jack with the two gallon Rotopax container. The tailgate is opened all the way in pic 2 and 3, the Rotopax lock comes close to the taillight but passes just outside.
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I know this is likely common sense but I thought I'd post it anyway to provoke a thought about it. Wife just went grocery shopping. The bag boy (man) loaded the back and then shut the tailgate with the window still open. The jack doesn't clear the glass. My wife said it made an awful noise and upon inspection nothing appears to be broken. Just a little red paint on the glass. Not sure how many times you could to that an still not have the glass break so not something I'd want to try again.

Here is the jack touching the glass with the tailgate still a few inches from fully shut.

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That would of been bad if it broke the glass.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:54 PM   #282
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I need to change that statement on my FB page. I was under the impression that I had a 48" jack on mine. I'm actually going to trim the top 2-3" off mine so that I can close my tailgate and not take out the rear glass.
Just wanted to let you know Joe that I installed it last night and the 48" sticks up like a mast but amazingly clears the garage door. I am now torn on if I should cut it or not because the way it is now I will not break the rear glass because it sticks up so far I can't smash it on the Hi-lift. If anyone cuts theirs let me know what you used and how difficult it was. I am thinking of using my grinder if I decide to cut it. If I leave it 48" I doubt I will be able to keep it on and park in a parking structure of any kind.
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I have a question, if the high lift gets caught up on let's say a large overhead branch, if the branch didn't break, what would happen to the jack mount? Would it tear the hinges out? I live in the city with lots of low parking garages.
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I have a question, if the high lift gets caught up on let's say a large overhead branch, if the branch didn't break, what would happen to the jack mount? Would it tear the hinges out? I live in the city with lots of low parking garages.
It definitely would not break the heavy duty hinge first. I'd imagine the TF accessory mount would bend first or you'd gouge out the screws holding the mount to the hinge and it'd rip out. Either way it wouldn't be pretty.
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It definitely would not break the heavy duty hinge first. I'd imagine the TF accessory mount would bend first or you'd gouge out the screws holding the mount to the hinge and it'd rip out. Either way it wouldn't be pretty.
Is there any room to move the jack mount downwards closer to the rear bumper like an inch?
Wouldn't you just have to redrill two holes to attach it lower ?
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yeah that's probably all it would take.... and lowering it should buy you a bit more clearance with the hi-lift pins and the tail light...
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I know this is likely common sense but I thought I'd post it anyway to provoke a thought about it. Wife just went grocery shopping. The bag boy (man) loaded the back and then shut the tailgate with the window still open. The jack doesn't clear the glass. My wife said it made an awful noise and upon inspection nothing appears to be broken. Just a little red paint on the glass. Not sure how many times you could to that an still not have the glass break so not something I'd want to try again.

Here is the jack touching the glass with the tailgate still a few inches from fully shut.

I'm thinking of trimming mine because of this reason. I'd rather lose 2-3" of hi-lift than replace that window.
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hey TF, i've seen some talk about a break on an adjustable mount going around on the forums. Are u guys adding gusstes to the new production? Is this something we should be worried about, etc?
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hey TF, i've seen some talk about a break on an adjustable mount going around on the forums. Are u guys adding gusstes to the new production? Is this something we should be worried about, etc?
I've been running a 39 krawler on mine and no issues yet!!!
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I chickened out on using the stock tire mount and the TF hinged carrier as there was just too much vibration from the stock mount and my 35" tires.
I stopped by Teraflex and picked up the adjustable mount for peace of mind.
Easy install but was glad i watched the youtube videos.
Hardest part was cutting off the brake light cleanly.
The tire doesn't vibrate at all now when closind the gate or driving down the road.
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I've been running a 39 krawler on mine and no issues yet!!!
I've been running the full setup for months with a 35 and have 37's now. Just looking for the official word on the issue from teraflex.
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Ok, so can someone smarter than me explain how the weight is taken off the tailgate? I thought since its bolted on the tailgate that the weight would be more evenly distributed. Maybe I am confusing the adjustable tire carrier with the HD hinge? Thanks
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I've been running the full setup for months with a 35 and have 37's now. Just looking for the official word on the issue from teraflex.
official word on what? you might be waiting a long time for that... i said it before, that ONE instance where the carrier failed... i'm thinking we missed a bit of information... something had to be lose. period. i have this setup on my rig, with the hi lift jack. if something was loose, you'd hear it.

i have complete confidence in this setup. in fact, it's way quieter than the smittybilt carrier and rampage jack mount i had previously... and i'm running a soft top or no top and wheeling pretty often...

(and I have no affilliation with TeraFlex)... just sharing my experience and thoughts on that whole situation...
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official word on what? you might be waiting a long time for that... i said it before, that ONE instance where the carrier failed... i'm thinking we missed a bit of information... something had to be lose. period. i have this setup on my rig, with the hi lift jack. if something was loose, you'd hear it.

i have complete confidence in this setup. in fact, it's way quieter than the smittybilt carrier and rampage jack mount i had previously... and i'm running a soft top or no top and wheeling pretty often...

(and I have no affilliation with TeraFlex)... just sharing my experience and thoughts on that whole situation...
Hmmm. Don't think I should be waiting. Teraflex should clear the air themselves rather than forum members giving a statement of their personal experience. As I said I own the same setup as you, but still feel that they should respond to my concern. I haven't had any issue with my setup, but still would like to hear the official statement regarding the failure. Is it their position that the failure was caused by a faulty install, or just yours? id like to know. Is thatso bad? I'm glad this is better than your smittybuilt setup, but that would be expected since its a teraflex product and not a cheap knock off.

Not really sure why you think it's ok for a company whom you purchase products from to not address the concerns of other customers, especially when they may very well affect you.

To be clear, I love my teraflex carrier. I have the full setup and have had no issues with it. I have promoted it to several jeepers on several forums. You can look at my posts on this forum and see how many times i have suggested this carrier to members. I am curious however to what teraflex has to say about the break that has been discussed on several forums. At the same time, I can really care less about the opinions of other members who have no direct involvement or knowledge of the break that occurred or what caused it.
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I think it's a bit naive to think a company is going to respond to every demand made on an internet forum. If it concerns you so greatly, have you contacted them directly? I'm no Teraflex fanboy, the HD hinge is the only TF product installed on my Jeep, but I would be surprised to see them respond to a possible product liability issue on WF. Who knows, there may be an ongoing investigation, and they are prevented by lawyers from commenting. If you aren't aware, product liability issues are big business for attorneys.

IIRC, the picture making the rounds on the internet forums wasn't even posted by the owner of the Jeep. I'd want to know more about the installation, the off-road conditions, and the actions of the driver before I jump to any conclusions. At least I haven't seen that posted anywhere. Teraflex must have sold thousands of these hinges and mounts and a picture of one problem floating around the interweb doesn't cause me concern. If there starts to be multiple examples of failure, then maybe I'll be concerned.
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I chickened out on using the stock tire mount and the TF hinged carrier as there was just too much vibration from the stock mount and my 35" tires.
I stopped by Teraflex and picked up the adjustable mount for peace of mind.
Easy install but was glad i watched the youtube videos.
Hardest part was cutting off the brake light cleanly.
The tire doesn't vibrate at all now when closind the gate or driving down the road.
Can you explain how you determined there was vibration from the spare driving down the road? I'm still using the stock mount with the HD hinge and it seems pretty tight and solid, but I've debated whether to go ahead and install the TF mount.

Did you replace the tailgate bump stop when you were using the stock mount? My spare does stick out another couple of inches with the lower wheel backspacing on the stock mount, but I'm using the Daystar bump stop and my wheel/tire seems to be mounted pretty solid. I haven't noticed any vibration, but I may not know what to look for.
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I think it's a bit naive to think a company is going to respond to every demand made on an internet forum. If it concerns you so greatly, have you contacted them directly? I'm no Teraflex fanboy, the HD hinge is the only TF product installed on my Jeep, but I would be surprised to see them respond to a possible product liability issue on WF. Who knows, there may be an ongoing investigation, and they are prevented by lawyers from commenting. If you aren't aware, product liability issues are big business for attorneys.

IIRC, the picture making the rounds on the internet forums wasn't even posted by the owner of the Jeep. I'd want to know more about the installation, the off-road conditions, and the actions of the driver before I jump to any conclusions. At least I haven't seen that posted anywhere. Teraflex must have sold thousands of these hinges and mounts and a picture of one problem floating around the interweb doesn't cause me concern. If there starts to be multiple examples of failure, then maybe I'll be concerned.
Agreed, I think it was originally posted projectJK FB page (maybe eddie oh of jk-forum fame, not sure). TF responded to that picture by saying it was an isolated case and they have a warranty on it. What else do you want? They're not gonna recall it. I remember there were a few cases of broken dana axles due to improper welding or weakened steel. You don't see them recalling everything.
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Not sure why u guys all ask questions on here everyday wanting a response from the manufacturer, but when something is asked that may be controversial you doesn't matter who posted the pic, a break is a break. I believe teraflex will respond, but they haven't had a chance. I posted the question yesterday and all the fanboys think I'm crazy for asking it if they feel it was an isolated incident than fine. All I'm looking for is that, THEIR position on what occurred and if they feel some of us should add some extra support or safety precautions. Don't know who is a asking for a recall some of you fanboys need to relax and let teraflex speak for themselves. I don't think they feel this is as big a deal as some of you popping up to defend it do.
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I could see it wiggle in the rear view mirror and when closing the tailgate.
Don't know if it would ever be a problem but figured why not. Teraflex is in SLC so just picked it up at the their store.
Trimmed the rubber bump stop about 1 1/2 inches with a utility knife.
I did the TF carrier just for a peace of mind mod.
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Can you explain how you determined there was vibration from the spare driving down the road? I'm still using the stock mount with the HD hinge and it seems pretty tight and solid, but I've debated whether to go ahead and install the TF mount.

Did you replace the tailgate bump stop when you were using the stock mount? My spare does stick out another couple of inches with the lower wheel backspacing on the stock mount, but I'm using the Daystar bump stop and my wheel/tire seems to be mounted pretty solid. I haven't noticed any vibration, but I may not know what to look for.
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Thanks, I should probably do the same. If nothing else, the tire will be tighter to the hinge instead of relying on just the one bump stop to keep it from moving around.

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