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Old 01-11-2013, 02:59 PM   #91
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If this is their design, count me out. I'm not paying $600 for a carrier that requires a hilift to be used as gas storage.
How does it "require" it? The accessory mounts are entirely optional. I don't understand your point...

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How does it "require" it? The accessory mounts are entirely optional. I don't understand your point...
What's not to understand? The gas can mount attaches to the holes on the hilift. Look at the photo. If you want to carry extra fuel, you must ghetto rig the mount to the hilift. It's lazy and poor engineering.

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What's not to understand? The gas can mount attaches to the holes on the hilift. Look at the photo. If you want to carry extra fuel, you must ghetto rig the mount to the hilift. It's lazy and poor engineering.
Perhaps, but given that this product is not a full swing-away tie carrier on a bumper, is there a better way they could have done it?

aren't there other solutions for carrying fuel? I have never needed to carry extra fuel, so I honestly don't know...
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Perhaps, but given that this product is not a full swing-away tie carrier on a bumper, is there a better way they could have done it?

aren't there other solutions for carrying fuel? I have never needed to carry extra fuel, so I honestly don't know...
Well, in that case, they should have just said, sorry guys, this carrier will not have provisions to carry fuel. However, coming out with a half assed way of doing something isn't something that should be appreciated by the purchasing community.

I never knocked them for not having a mount or anything like that. My problem is a shoddy solution to a request instead of an actual engineered product.
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I don't get the fuel argument. If you need to carry fuel, don't get this carrier or get another method to carry fuel. But to say it's half-assed is to come off as small-minded, which I know you're not, and trivial.

I like the provision they have for mounting a hi-lift or other minimal gear. Obviously they didn't design this carrier to be like the LoD system where you can take enough gear to survive the Serengeti for 3 years.

Too many times people want a product to ALL things the very best. That oftentimes turns into a product doing ALL things mediocre or one thing well and the rest shoddy.

This is a niche product, like a lot of the parts we buy for our Jeeps. If you want a reinforced hinge that can carry up to a 38" wheel/tire combo and can mount an item or two, and look close to OEM, this product is for you.

If you're looking for an overland-style of setup, it's not for you. Simple as that. [i]http://www.v6performance.net/forums/images/smilies/gotme.gif[/img]

Lots of people like to act like they're going on a safari and will need 4 extra gallons of gas, but the number of actual people utilizing it is much smaller than the population served by this carrier.

Now look what you NFRs, I sound like a TF sales rep!
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I've been contemplating buying this carrier and quite frankly, their accessory fuel mount is probably perfect for me. For 99% of the time I'm wheeling in my Jeep, it's not necessary, but on the rare occasion I might need to carry extra fuel, there is a way I can add it relatively easily.

I don't consider it ghetto rigged, but I can understand it wouldn't be the right solution if you were a hardcore overlander and needed to carry extra fuel on a regular basis.
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I don't get the fuel argument. If you need to carry fuel, don't get this carrier or get another method to carry fuel. But to say it's half-assed is to come off as small-minded, which I know you're not, and trivial.

I like the provision they have for mounting a hi-lift or other minimal gear. Obviously they didn't design this carrier to be like the LoD system where you can take enough gear to survive the Serengeti for 3 years.

Too many times people want a product to ALL things the very best. That oftentimes turns into a product doing ALL things mediocre or one thing well and the rest shoddy.

This is a niche product, like a lot of the parts we buy for our Jeeps. If you want a reinforced hinge that can carry up to a 38" wheel/tire combo and can mount an item or two, and look close to OEM, this product is for you.

If you're looking for an overland-style of setup, it's not for you. Simple as that. [i]http://www.v6performance.net/forums/images/smilies/gotme.gif[/img]

Lots of people like to act like they're going on a safari and will need 4 extra gallons of gas, but the number of actual people utilizing it is much smaller than the population served by this carrier.

Now look what you NFRs, I sound like a TF sales rep!
I just think a company is only as good as their products. The carrier is obviously well engineered. The fuel mounting system is an afterthought. They were better off coming out with nothing rather than something of poor thought, that was my only point. I like Teraflex, and own their products, I just think something a little smarter could have been thought out thats all.
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Are we certain that is how the fuel can is mounted? I see the other tools hung off the high lift, but I can't see from that one pic how the fuel can is actually held. I would just engineer my own jerry can mount utilizing the nuts in the hinges (I assume that's what they are they for, accessory mounting). Maybe even using something like the Smittybuilt mount to hold the can and just having it bolt into the hinge.
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I studied the pic and it sure looks like the Hi Lift is used to hold the mounts for everything else.
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You can't run a the light bracket they provide with a spacer as it off sets the holes needed to bolt it to the carrier. I suppose you could redrill the mount and run the bracket upside down.

The stock wheels don't have enough backspacing to run only the carrier. The instructions make note of this. So then you need to purchase a spacer (RC is the cheapest at 2 for $50. (I've got a spare if anyone wants to shoot me 25 and shipping)) which then offsets the holes used to mount the modified stock 3rd break light. Bummed me out because I wanted to run my license plate on the mount too.

Here's what I came up with:

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I wonder if this would work? And still be able to use the brake light bracket...
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i dont like the way this is setup either. i love the carrier and it has worked well for me, but this mount is not the best. if you want to carry fuel then you MUST carry a hilift? wtf? dont need a hilift, i like using regular jacks or bottle jacks. i do want to carry a fuel and water can though. i will make my own mount....that simple. this does not make me wish i hadnt purchased the carrier. not a deal breaker. if anyones feels this is a deal breaker, than this probably isnt the right carrier for them in the first place.
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Well it seems like every dillweed likes to carry a highlift jack nowadays and wants to look cool. Every situation I've ever been in a winch has always worked. Plus there's always somebody that has a highlift with but never use it instead they use the winch and traction aid products like a wood block.
Maybe it's me but the highlift jack doesn't seem like its used like it did 10 yrs ago.
As for fuel I guess that's more important and I use my own setup !!!
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I've been contemplating buying this carrier and quite frankly, their accessory fuel mount is probably perfect for me. For 99% of the time I'm wheeling in my Jeep, it's not necessary, but on the rare occasion I might need to carry extra fuel, there is a way I can add it relatively easily.

I don't consider it ghetto rigged, but I can understand it wouldn't be the right solution if you were a hardcore overlander and needed to carry extra fuel on a regular basis.
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I just think a company is only as good as their products. The carrier is obviously well engineered. The fuel mounting system is an afterthought. They were better off coming out with nothing rather than something of poor thought, that was my only point. I like Teraflex, and own their products, I just think something a little smarter could have been thought out thats all.
Let me know when you engineer, R&D, manufacture and sell a better carrier that has similar specs. I would like to check it out and maybe buy it. Oh, and make sure its aluminum too (so its lightweight and strong). Thanks.
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I have the same question and just called Teraflex for an update. They said the accessory mount product is due out in February.

I asked him if the final product would look like the prototype photo that is floating around the internet. They said that, yes, this is the design they are going with. They would not comment on price or PN yet. Here is the pic if case you have not seen it.
We should wait until the final product or products are released before we assume too much. When the Teraflex guy said the picture accurately reflected the product that they were going with, he did not say that was the only configuration. His statement to me was only within the context of my statement to him about the photo. I'm sorry if I conveyed a meaning that this may be their only product and there is nothing more. That was not said to me, and I probably should have made it clear.

I am sending an email today to the guy at Teraflex asking if he could be so kind as to comment to the Forum in this thread directly to help clear things up. I'm not sure the company policy will allow him to do so officially, since anything he says may change prior to product introduction.
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Let me know when you engineer, R&D, manufacture and sell a better carrier that has similar specs. I would like to check it out and maybe buy it. Oh, and make sure its aluminum too (so its lightweight and strong). Thanks.
Reading comprehension is a virtue. I said the CARRIER is an excellent piece of engineering. I said the fuel carrying system (aka, a few bolts that go through the hilift) is a slap-bang job. Don't get your jimmies rustled....and BTW, I've engineered plenty of parts for my race cars.
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I'm buying this tire carrier tomorrow because I need to get a spare tire mounted and I want to save some weight for long trips and camping. I'm not living in the mountains or desert so I won't need extra fuel.
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If this is their design, count me out. I'm not paying $600 for a carrier that requires a hilift to be used as gas storage.
That's not the only version. Sometime in the next 2 weeks we should be posting pics/part#'s and hopefully prices.
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Reading comprehension is a virtue. I said the CARRIER is an excellent piece of engineering. I said the fuel carrying system (aka, a few bolts that go through the hilift) is a slap-bang job. Don't get your jimmies rustled....and BTW, I've engineered plenty of parts for my race cars.
Sorry that wasn't meant to be an insult but more sarcastic without being disrespectful, simultaneously. I'm not rustled personally. I mistyped and didn't include the word (tire carrier) BRACKET. It was very late or early, whichever you prefer. Can you please explain how reading comprehension is related to virtue? I'm curious.

Oh so you are an engineer or possess that skill. Sweet. Do you use Staedtler Mars or CAD? Sometimes I'd rough it and just mock stuff up with cardboard when I fabricated, if you could even call it that (I'm pretty amateur).

I'd be into a bracket that skips the high lift and goes straight to a fuel carrier for occasional use if anybody designs one!
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So was just watching videos on Teraflex youtube channel and I am almost 100% sure that it is shown on one of there JK's in the video. Fast forward to 13:30 and check it out. I am installing there Tire carrier set up tomorrow and was just looking at the install video and got distracted by there other videos.



Fast foward to 13:30
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So was just watching videos on Teraflex youtube channel and I am almost 100% sure that it is show on one of there JK's in the video. Fast forward to 13:30 and check it out. I am installing there Tire carrier set up tomorrow and was just looking at the install video and got distracted by there other videos.



Fast foward to 13:30
Oh snap! Wow good observation skills! I watched that video also and totally didn't see that! It definitely looks like they mounted the gas can on the hi jack....
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Oh snap! Wow good observation skills! I watched that video also and totally didn't see that! It definitely looks like they mounted the gas can on the hi jack....
Thanks man. Yeah Well I hope there other mount will not require a Hi Jack to mount everything.
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So I have the TF hinge and adjustable spare tire mount. Wanted to share some pointers

The hinge went on pretty smoothly. Pretty easy job. Only problem I really ran into was pressing the lugs into the mount. I was using the press at my friends shop and it bent the mount. Make sure to use some lube before pressing. Oh and I used a dremel to take off the tail Light from the stock carrier. That was pretty easy.

I just got 315/70/17 Goodyear duratracs wrapped around my stock Rubicon wheels. It fits on the adjustable mount! No spacer needed! The guy that mounted my tires aired down my spare first. Mounted it, and then aired it back to 28psi. He said it fits pretty snug.

All in all every is pretty solid. Now I just need to get a antenna mount..

Oh btw forget about contacting teraflex. I tried contacting them a couple of times to answer some of my questions to no avail.

Pics to come soon!
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[QUOTE=AK JK;3238429]So was just watching videos on Teraflex youtube channel and I am almost 100% sure that it is shown on one of there JK's in the video. Fast forward to 13:30 and check it out. I am installing there Tire carrier set up tomorrow and was just looking at the install video and got distracted by there other videos.



You should be a detective!! Nice work. They may be doing durability testing. Hopefully not long to wait now.
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That's not the only version. Sometime in the next 2 weeks we should be posting pics/part#'s and hopefully prices.
still waiting... if you want to call it that. can't wait to see this guys.
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The bump stop is a wee bit smooshed
I was under the impression that the tire is not supposed to be in contact with the carrier!!
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I was under the impression that the tire is not supposed to be in contact with the carrier!!
Why is that? The passenger side of my spare is secured against the carrier and the driver side is secured against the trimmed down bump stop. You can't get a bump stop on the passenger side due to the hinge. It's all level against the Jeep if you trim the bump stop and press it against the hinge.
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Why is that? The passenger side of my spare is secured against the carrier and the driver side is secured against the trimmed down bump stop. You can't get a bump stop on the passenger side due to the hinge. It's all level against the Jeep if you trim the bump stop and press it against the hinge.
Like I said I thought the tire isn't supposed to be against the carrier, I better snug my up more so that 38" is secure
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My old one (2010) was definitely plastic -- I know this because my old stock Sahara tire caused it to crack all along the top edge after just two years. I gotta drive over to my storage garage to see what my 2013 was. I'll be there tomorrow to check it out.

Appearances wise, they look identical, so I'm not so sure they changed it to some sort of metal... that would really surprise me.
Was wondering about this myself, until this weekend when I installed the Delta lug lights. Mine is definitely metal, a pleasant surprise because I figured it was plastic as well. The hinge is arriving today, but I'm keeping my stock carrier since I'm running 33's. I'll put some pictures up tonight/tomorrow morning after it's installed. I will say that Delta light kit is extremely basic. The lights work fine, but it's a "universal" kit that takes a bit of modifying to fit the Jeep. Pictures of that to follow as well.

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