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Old 03-15-2013, 09:31 PM   #1
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Teraflex vs Rubicon Express

Hi Everyone trying to decide between

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TeraFlex Part 1251000 - 2.5

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Pro Comp Suspension Part K3099B - 2.5" Lift Kit with ES9000 Shocks


Please advise pro and con... I apologize i am new to the whole jeep world. I know we may occasionaly go off road to URE... and that is a big maybe.. we will get larger tires and wheels at a later date. Just want a great product that will last.

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Old 03-15-2013, 09:37 PM   #2
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Teraflex all the way. Exact same lift i have. Works great for me.

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Old 03-15-2013, 09:47 PM   #3
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I just got the teraflex on my 2013 unlimited rubicon......I love it!
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I was quoted 671.00 for the kit then 200.oo for installed and 95 alignment... Is that a good deal. Again very new to the jeep world and apologize for all the questions.
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the Teraflex for 671.00
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With the TeraFlex 2.5" coil kit do I NEED anything else? I have seen a few other similar kits include a steering stabilization bar and some other stuff. Not talking LCA either.
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Install then drive. LCA's will get some caster back but not necessary at 2.5.
The TF 2.5 kit is pretty much all you need to get started.
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I may be a bit biased but I would say RE.

In all seriousness though, I saw you mentioned Rubicon but posted a Pro Comp kit. We are not the same company and do not have the same products. We have different kits for 2/4 door so I took a guess and included the 4 door link to 4WD since that is what you had there before

2.5" coil kit with Twin Tube Shocks

There is also a kit with our Monotube shocks that is less than 30 more than the other kit you got quoted with Twin tube shocks. The combination of coils and shocks is going to make all the difference in the world when it comes to ride quality and I guarantee you would notice a marked improvement going from TT to Monotube. Our shocks are manufactured by Bilstein and are specifically valved to work with each kit.

2.5" coil kit with Monotube Shocks

All of our products are easily upgrade able and we also have one of the most liberal product warranties on the market (includes a lifetime warranty on our PT-MEG bushing and is also fully transferable!!) we built it so you could use it!
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RubiconExpress1 thank for you fast response for a quality product..
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$200 for an install isn't highway robbery but doing it your self with a friend would be far better. It's very do-able with little to no mechanical experience. Now, $95 for a steering wheel alignment is robbery. You can do this in your driveway in less than 10mns with a single wrench. Extraordinarily simple.

OP, if you want a recommendation on someone here locally that has the tools, know how, and garage to do this in let me know. Additionally, I'm installing the TF lift this Saturday and you could come out to watch and see what you think. PM me if you'd like too.
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This is a really old thread ..just used it to pm re..sorry..but they were very quick to get back to me.
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This is a really old thread ..just used it to pm re..sorry..but they were very quick to get back to me.
Ah..this is what I get for posting at 5am lol. Thanks, didn't realize it was this old. OP probably already has his lift?
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Ah..this is what I get for posting at 5am lol. Thanks, didn't realize it was this old. OP probably already has his lift?
Yup probably. But if I was out that way I would come over...
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I may be a bit biased but I would say RE.

2.5" coil kit with Twin Tube Shocks
Our shocks are manufactured by Bilstein and are specifically valved to work with each kit.
After many years of working with motorcycle suspensions; shim stacks, valving, springs, oil weights, pre-load, rebound & dampening factors, etc.. Your comment about your custom Bilstein shocks being specifically valved bring up a question I would like an answer to.

Do you ask each customer their specific set-up when ordering and then custom build the shock? Sounds very custom and awful expensive to offer this option to the customer. JK's can vary in weight over 1,000 lbs+ depending on equipment, tires, load... Heck even simple things like how the customer drives their rig, at what speeds, on and off road are all major variables in how a shock should be custom built, yet your company offers custom valving that covers all these variables?
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You can do this in your driveway in less than 10mns with a single wrench. Extraordinarily simple.
Do you have a video on how to do this 10 minute alignment? I'd be interested in doing this from now on instead of forking over $175 for lifetime alignments....
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I have the RE 3.5" with OME long travel shocks on mine. Put a 4.5" RE adjustable arm on the missus.

Mine is loaded with steel bumpers, recovery gear and full size spare. In 4 years, no sag.
The only the thing I would do different...add the long arms.

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Do you have a video on how to do this 10 minute alignment? I'd be interested in doing this from now on instead of forking over $175 for lifetime alignments....
It's partially true. On a solid axle Jeep the only things adjustable are toe (factory) and castor (adjustable control arms). The toe can be set with a tape measure and the castor can be set with an angle finder. Dog tracking can be addressed but it is a non tire wearing issue. That being said nothing will replace the accuracy of a good alignment machine. You can get within a 16th of an inch with a tape measure but a good alignment machine, and a good tech, will be dead on.
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I'd suggest an adjustable front trackbar. I have the TF bar with the TF 2.5. It was needed to correct the geometry. And its beefy as well.
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I think an alignment and a simple steering wheel centering get confused sometimes. For the latter, you can do it in your driveway. For an alignment, you need numbers +/- correction.
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If you get an adjustable trackbar and have the rig aligned after lift (which I suggest), make sure to tell them where to position the adjustment sleeve on the bar.

I neglected to tell my shop and they had the bolts positioned in such a way that I would have had interference with extreme flexing.
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It's partially true. On a solid axle Jeep the only things adjustable are toe (factory) and castor (adjustable control arms). The toe can be set with a tape measure and the castor can be set with an angle finder. Dog tracking can be addressed but it is a non tire wearing issue. That being said nothing will replace the accuracy of a good alignment machine. You can get within a 16th of an inch with a tape measure but a good alignment machine, and a good tech, will be dead on.
I should confirm this is true. It worked for me and another person setting caster.
The two flat machined circles on each side of the differential. Accurate pinion angle measurement.. Yes/no ?

Fwiw.. The easiest way to know your caster angle by taking your pinion angle. The jk axle has 6* between caster/pinion. Stock is around 2* positive on the pinion angle. Caster 4* = 6*
Pinion at 0* would mean caster is at 6*
I don't trust the lower C where some have you measure.

My pinion was 1.5 ish when checked. Alignment vv
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I may be a bit biased but I would say RE. In all seriousness though, I saw you mentioned Rubicon but posted a Pro Comp kit. We are not the same company and do not have the same products. We have different kits for 2/4 door so I took a guess and included the 4 door link to 4WD since that is what you had there before 2.5" coil kit with Twin Tube Shocks There is also a kit with our Monotube shocks that is less than 30 more than the other kit you got quoted with Twin tube shocks. The combination of coils and shocks is going to make all the difference in the world when it comes to ride quality and I guarantee you would notice a marked improvement going from TT to Monotube. Our shocks are manufactured by Bilstein and are specifically valved to work with each kit. 2.5" coil kit with Monotube Shocks All of our products are easily upgrade able and we also have one of the most liberal product warranties on the market (includes a lifetime warranty on our PT-MEG bushing and is also fully transferable!!) we built it so you could use it!
i was told by someone at 4wd that RE really only makes 2 sizes of lifts, 2" and 4". Is this true? Is the 2.5" really only going to give me 2" of lift?

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