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Old 03-21-2013, 01:12 PM   #1
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I hate being a noob, because I know you all answer these questions several times a month...but - is an alignment required after the TF 1.5" budget leveling kit and adding the UL 18/59 springs? If so, how far off the factory specs would you recommend? Also while we're on the subject, do I need to add the Rubi (or Skyjacker equivalent) shocks to this package or will the stockers be ok? As far as wheels, I'm adding the factory 17" Rubicon's. I'm looking into this as budget friendly as possible, since my wife has already got a microscope on the finances...

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It depends on what you are trying to do with it. Are you wanting to go off road, or just wanting a more aggressive look? New shocks will help the ride, but it depends on how much you want to spend.

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I was going to go with this setup before I decided to go with my 3"BDS lift. After a little research, I realized I could do a full lift for the price of the TF performance leveling kit and Rubi take offs. I think I got a better lift with better shocks for only about $100 more... If that. That also included install and alignment.

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It depends on what you are trying to do with it. Are you wanting to go off road, or just wanting a more aggressive look? New shocks will help the ride, but it depends on how much you want to spend.
Basically I'm going for looks and functionality as well as a comfortable and practical on-road, daily driver ride, but have capability if a spur-of-the-moment off-road adventure, or winter weather mishap come my way...if any of that makes sense to you. Budget and maintaining factory warranty are paramount here since this is a DD and my wife has got a strap around my wallet. Thanks!
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I was going to go with this setup before I decided to go with my 3"BDS lift. After a little research, I realized I could do a full lift for the price of the TF performance leveling kit and Rubi take offs. I think I got a better lift with better shocks for only about $100 more... If that. That also included install and alignment.

Here's a pic of mine with 33" DuraTracs:
I really don't want aggressive tires like that. Yours looks good, but for practicality and gas mileage, I'm sticking to the factory GY's or "road" tires. I'm looking at the "Budget" leveling kit, not the performance, which is over twice as much.
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I really don't want aggressive tires like that. Yours looks good, but for practicality and gas mileage, I'm sticking to the factory GY's or "road" tires. I'm looking at the "Budget" leveling kit, not the performance, which is over twice as much.
Ohh my apologies I miss understood... I would just go with the leveling kit then. You'll probably get at least another inch of lift with the UL shocks and Rubi shocks plus the 1.5 inches for the spacers.
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So the original question remains...After performing the work would an alignment be critical? Thanks
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So the original question remains...After performing the work would an alignment be critical? Thanks
If you swap out the springs and shocks I would absolutely do an alignment.

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If you swap out the springs and shocks I would absolutely do an alignment.

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Thanks. Do you know how far off the factory specs would be?
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The only thing that would really be off would be the caster. Adjusting it is really only necessary if the steering feels flighty or it wanders. To adjust it you will need either adjustable lower control arms, correction brackets for these lower arms or cam bolts for the stock arms. Cam bolts are not looked at fondly by anyone who offroads much as they can move. The toe will not change. The camber is simply not adjustable without significant difficulty. You will need to center the steering wheel by adjusting the sleeve on the drag link, it's super easy.

I would rather do the alignment myself than the lift and I'm no mechanic!
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I hate being a noob, because I know you all answer these questions several times a month...but - is an alignment required after the TF 1.5" budget leveling kit and adding the UL 18/59 springs? If so, how far off the factory specs would you recommend? Also while we're on the subject, do I need to add the Rubi (or Skyjacker equivalent) shocks to this package or will the stockers be ok? As far as wheels, I'm adding the factory 17" Rubicon's. I'm looking into this as budget friendly as possible, since my wife has already got a microscope on the finances...
I did something very similar on my JKU. I had 16/59 factory springs. Added the TF leveling kit (spacer version). Then added front bumper (added 65+ pounds over stock bumper). Then changed front springs to 18 to give back some height lost with weight of new bumper. Left the Sahara shocks. Only alignment change I made was adjusting the steering wheel so it was back to center; it was off only a slight bit and was very easy to center. Otherwise, I haven't noticed any alignment issues with this combo. It seems it's just not high enough to cause alignment issues. Drives great.
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I really don't want aggressive tires like that. Yours looks good, but for practicality and gas mileage, I'm sticking to the factory GY's or "road" tires. I'm looking at the "Budget" leveling kit, not the performance, which is over twice as much.
Why go to 18/59's then if you're keeping the stock tire setup? Just roll with what you have. I have 17/59 and did the TF Leveling Kit and the stock tires look too small now.

I didn't align mine after and it drives fine. Just don't touch the control arm bolts when you're doing the lift. It's a pretty easy install too, just in case you were thinking of paying some shop to do it. Do it yourself and save that money.
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Why go to 18/59's then if you're keeping the stock tire setup? Just roll with what you have. I have 17/59 and did the TF Leveling Kit and the stock tires look too small now.

I didn't align mine after and it drives fine. Just don't touch the control arm bolts when you're doing the lift. It's a pretty easy install too, just in case you were thinking of paying some shop to do it. Do it yourself and save that money.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I didn't think that the little extra lift would make that much difference. Maybe I'll hold off for now and just do the leveling kit. Thanks!
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Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I didn't think that the little extra lift would make that much difference. Maybe I'll hold off for now and just do the leveling kit. Thanks!

I think it comes down to opinion. IMO, the stock Sahara tires look good with the leveling kit. A lot of folks go this route. It also allows you to add 33s down the road should you want to do it.

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