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Old 10-13-2012, 12:04 AM   #91
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I may not "feel" R&D but I know for a fact a 350ci is as reliable as they come, not to mention the HUGE aftermarket for them. How'bout the ease of working on them? Technology is a wonderful thing until it breaks...
Sounds like you're just too lazy to learn how a modern engine works.

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Old 10-13-2012, 12:14 AM   #93
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Yeah, but it'll look like a tool doing it.
I think the person who still thinks older cars are better than newer cars is the one that's going to look like a tool.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:19 AM   #94
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8-Speed may not be good on a vehicle that is so easily affected by slight grades or wind. You might get more hunting than opening day on duck season.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:46 AM   #95
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8-speed?

First gear, shift at 2 mph. Second gear, at 3 mph...sixth, seventh and eighth, unusable with anything over 33" tires, until regear.

Keep it simple. Six speed manual.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:58 AM   #96
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8-speed?

First gear, shift at 2 mph. Second gear, at 3 mph...sixth, seventh and eighth, unusable with anything over 33" tires, until regear.

Keep it simple. Six speed manual.

Yep the manual 6 works great. I also have a 5 speed auto. It does enough hunting on the freeway, slight gust of wind or grade and it's constantly down or upshifting. 8 speed might be ok in aerodynamic vehicle.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:06 AM   #97
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Close mindedness is the opposite of logical thinking.

Nope. I love it when I hear new things happening with the Wrangler. Who wouldn't want more power and fuel economy? More comfort? Better all-around performance and quality is always a good thing to me.
I agree! I will always like that sense of "rawness" accustomed to the Wrangler, but you're not going to hear any complaints from me in terms of seat comfort, options, acceleration, or handling characteristics. As long as the Wrangler keeps every bit of its offroad capabilities, I welcome improvements.

At the end of the day, no, I don't want a lifeless vehicle like a Lexus, Audi, BMW, or Land Rover, but I do like to "feel" the vehicle when I'm driving. We had an Audi for three years an while it was a nice car, it was just "too nice" for me to like it. I much preferred the "alive" feeling of my STi, save for the seats.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:13 AM   #98
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I hope the "yuppie jeep" era doesn't come back.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:18 AM   #99
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I hope the "yuppie jeep" era doesn't come back.
Well according to some, the "yuppie Jeep" has come back...as the Unlimited.

What's the "yuppie Jeep?"
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:32 AM   #100
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Well according to some, the "yuppie Jeep" has come back...as the Unlimited.

What's the "yuppie Jeep?"
The square headlight jeep era in the 90's was considered the "yuppie jeep era". Jeep enthusiasts were really pissed because the wrangler lost its famous appeal.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:48 AM   #101
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The square headlight jeep era in the 90's was considered the "yuppie jeep era". Jeep enthusiasts were really pissed because the wrangler lost its famous appeal.
I always think changes are good but Chrysler made a mistake with the square headlight design; that's like putting flip-up lights on a Porsche 911, though Porsche did build the Slant-nose 911. Even though you could get the Slant, a 911 with the standard nose could be had. Jeep should have done the same.

That being said, when I joined the site I did go "hunting" on the forum for modified models with the square headlights. I like them because they're different, but I prefer the round lights on a Jeep.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:28 PM   #102
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That's what the red button by the gear shifter knob was for. I remember using it to shift from one set of gears to the next when I got fast enough, splitting the gears, as it were on a two-speed axle. This was some Ford, maybe a 1960s F700 or a Chevy C70? It didn't look like the 70s C70, though... I can't remember if it was a straight shift, like button-down in 3rd gear, off accel, button-up, clutch in, and shift into 4th (where 1st gear would normally be). I don't remember. It was early 80s by the time I was driving it.

Unbelievable!! I was visiting my stepmother during my rest visit off the ranch this week (I've been volunteering on a ranch outside of Hallettsville all summer and leave at the end of this month to go to Houston to house-sit for a month before heading off near Brenham to help develop a personal farm this fall). She found the last box of photos that my Dad had (I'm waiting for her to send me a batch of photos of hurricane-grade lighting towers that he built for the greater Corpus Christie area football stadiums and other places, so all I can say about one thing is that there appears to be parked close by a Jeep that was something that came after the CJ-3A with the rounded fenders, one-piece windshield with rounded corners, AND a lefty spare-tire mount). Remember when I made the above comment? Well... In that box were a set of 4 photos of a 2.5-ton truck and dozer (D-6) set that I got to drive on several ranches as a kid (they were all next to each other off to the southeast of FM Road 2688 (connects to Hwy 83 southeast of Carrizo Springs in south Texas), on the other side from the Brisco ranch). Can anyone here ID this Ford truck, which was equipped with the two-speed rear axle?
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Nope. I love it when I hear new things happening with the Wrangler. Who wouldn't want more power and fuel economy? More comfort? Better all-around performance and quality is always a good thing to me.
Gotta be careful with "more comfort". That could mean better seat bolsters, or independent suspension...
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505 CID 65 GTO (IA2 aftermarket block). Going home to replace a Holley metering block tonight and get her back on the road.

I'd love an 8 speed auto in my JKUR. For my goat, I don't need no stinkin' 8 gears! A muncie four speed for me!!!

If the 8 speed has pretty wide ratios you could see people going to bigger tires without needing to regear, that would be cool. I think the 3.6 is a good thing, the 5 speed is a good thing, and the 8 speed would be even better. It's all good.

For the modern cars/daily driver types, I want comfort and technology. For the older iron, I want a nasty idle, a thunderous roar when the throttle is opened, the ass-end to go sideways, my girlfriend to spill her drink, and then bang second and watch the ass-end go sideways again.
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505 CID 65 GTO (IA2 aftermarket block). Going home to replace a Holley metering block tonight and get her back on the road.

I'd love an 8 speed auto in my JKUR. For my goat, I don't need no stinkin' 8 gears! A muncie four speed for me!!!

If the 8 speed has pretty wide ratios you could see people going to bigger tires without needing to regear, that would be cool. I think the 3.6 is a good thing, the 5 speed is a good thing, and the 8 speed would be even better. It's all good.

For the modern cars/daily driver types, I want comfort and technology. For the older iron, I want a nasty idle, a thunderous roar when the throttle is opened, the ass-end to go sideways, my girlfriend to spill her drink, and then bang second and watch the ass-end go sideways again.
I like the way this guy thinks! Couldn't have said it better myself
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:24 AM   #106
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Comparing the ratios of the 5-speed...

Mercedes-Benz 5G-Tronic transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...with that of the 8 speed...


ZF 8HP transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...I suspect it would do quit well off road AND be better on the highway.
Exactly.

Despite the constant concerns over the decades, Jeep has always made the next Wrangler perform better on and off road better than the last Wrangler. Any boo-boo you hear ahead of a release is people who are simply insecure about their Wrangler being a generation older or not having the same cool stuff.
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I like the way this guy thinks! Couldn't have said it better myself
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The square headlight jeep era in the 90's was considered the "yuppie jeep era". Jeep enthusiasts were really pissed because the wrangler lost its famous appeal.

There was no Wrangler appeal before square headlights. The previous model was the CJ-7.

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