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Old 03-07-2014, 09:41 PM   #1
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The AEV camera is here, almost....

I called AEV today, but dave was not in the office and I just got the generic answer "Should be any day now, watch the web site; wait for the newsletter."

These products are available now, but brandmotion is sold out:

2007-Current Jeep Wrangler Rear Vision Camera 9002-8828

2007-Current Jeep Wrangler Rear Vision System with Mirror Display 9002-8826

2007-Current Jeep Wrangler Rear Vision System for Factory Display Radios 9002-8827

Awesome thing is the instructions, very AEV like.

Here are some links to the company that manufactures the electronics for AEV. I hear from good sources that the AEV kit price might be in the same neighborhood.
It will come with a one time use procal that will "teach" the computer the new camera settings which will pretty much integrate it without any dealer help. Once you use the procal, it locks to the vin and it cannot be used on another vehicle. This procal is only for the camera and will not work like the AEV procal. I think it won't have any dip switches. As you can see there are three options, and you can customize as you need.
The AEV branded gear should be here shortly.
The AEV gear will have the new third brake light as well, brandmotion does video only.
You can subscribe to their email newsletter for first dibs.

Hope this helps !

AEV haters please take it easy....

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Old 03-07-2014, 09:52 PM   #3
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:04 PM   #4
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I don't get it...does it plug into the OEM 430/730? I read the instructions and they say to tap into the cig lighter, but say nothing about the actual display method.
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Will they offer just the ProCal? This would allow using a Jeep Commander or other camera installed in the rear bumper, or somewhere other than on the tire carrier.

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Old 03-07-2014, 10:10 PM   #6
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I believe you unplug three leads from the stock factory harness on the 430/730n and plug in the three new ones, and then "teach" the computer with the disposable procal. Or install the rear view camera if you lack the 430/730n.

This works for both the auto and the manual transmissions.

The third brake light will just hook to the stock harness, two wires.

Nothing to it...

AEV is mum about their offerings for now, can't get anything out of them.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:04 PM   #7
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Thanks for the info.

It is $300 for just the camera and bracket (first link).....$700 for the camera and rear view mirror (2nd link) and $650 for the camera and unit that connects to the 430/730.

While I like the metal bracket for the camera...those prices are pretty awful.

My Lockpick V.5 and camera where around $235 total....shipped.

Cameras run about $30 on Amazon, so AEV has a tough price point to compete against. I think they should market the bracket by itself a bit more, especially if it is adjustable for different rims.
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Does it provide all of the functionality of the Lockpick? Multi-cam, DVD while driving, etc

This is certainly a more elegant solution than my old Lockpic that looked like it was made from a Heath kit but the Lockpic works flawlessly and provides very good functionality.

But if the ProCal only enables the camera, the price is steep unless it includes the wheel
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This will probably be the first thing i get for my jeep. kinda pricey tho
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OMG.... THey are asking $300 for a metal bracket, a $30 backup camera and the flash for your existing OEM radio? You gotta be joking me.

also the below quote leads me to believe they are not even flashing your OEM radio. So $300 for $50 worth of parts????

"This kit is designed for vehicles with an aftermarket display. It includes a composite (RCA) connection to video input on the monitor."
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OMG.... THey are asking $300 for a metal bracket, a $30 backup camera and the flash for your existing OEM radio? You gotta be joking me. also the below quote leads me to believe they are not even flashing your OEM radio. So $300 for $50 worth of parts???? "This kit is designed for vehicles with an aftermarket display. It includes a composite (RCA) connection to video input on the monitor."
I have the AEV rear vision camera/CHMSL with a 430N and it works very well. The mounting bracket is very solid and the camera functions well.
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OMG.... THey are asking $300 for a metal bracket, a $30 backup camera and the flash for your existing OEM radio? You gotta be joking me. also the below quote leads me to believe they are not even flashing your OEM radio. So $300 for $50 worth of parts???? "This kit is designed for vehicles with an aftermarket display. It includes a composite (RCA) connection to video input on the monitor."
I agree they are asking way to much for what you get! I've been looking for a backup camera for manual trans. It's really hard to back up at night with 4% tint.
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Interesting....I made my own about a year ago using a license plate camera and some strap ties from Menards...all for about 20 bucks

I had to go a different route though now that I have aftermarket rims....
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The camera is a nice feature. I had mine installed when AEV built my Jeep. While it might be pricy, just having the ability to see behind the Jeep when you have a 35" spare tire taking up the rear window is well worth it.



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I have a camera on my Maximus-3 Carrier. not sure what their pricing will be for that option yet.




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This looks like a good option.
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Well I purchased the camera/Flash today from 2007-Current Jeep Wrangler Rear Vision System for Factory Display Radios 9002-8827

Will be arriving in 3-5 days

Installing it into 2014 Rubicon X (Amp'd) I decided that this was the easiest solution. Only wish the camera had either fixed guide lines or moving guidelines.

I thought of bumper mounting the camera, However the upward view of the camera would be restricted by the oversized spare tire. But now I am having second thoughts.
I had trailer hitch installed. I thought the camera would aid in hitching up a trailer. But I think the camera angle of the camera mounted on the spare tire carrier and peering through the spare tire spoke may not adequately provide a suitable view of the hitch ball.

Also now I have to get my wife to cut a window for the cam, into my spare tire cover and see, the edges either leaving it open or sew clear plastic. The clear plastic may fog with dirt and age so I think I will leave the camera window open on the tire cover.

Here is the tire cover. The window cut-out for the camera would be located within the windshield frame center. Might look ok???
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While I like the metal bracket for the camera...those prices are pretty awful.
I wonder if this is something that a group buy here on WF could be put together? I would be interested if the price was right.
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So just the camera is $300 and the 430/730 is $650? They are charging $350 for a reflash? I want what they are smoking.
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Cameras run about $30 on Amazon, so AEV has a tough price point to compete against. I think they should market the bracket by itself a bit more, especially if it is adjustable for different rims.
Agreed. But a higher quality Japanese CCD cam from Sony or Pioneer will run closer to $100, but i do think they should market the bracket seperately as long as it does adjust for the different offsets. the cost for my cam bracket....maybe $3 But I did have to re-fasion it once i upgraded to 35's

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A one time flash at dealer is $150 - $200. Sure it's a bit pricy for the setup. but it's all bundled together ready to go and everything has warranty under one company.
Add up all the shipping costs and gas to and fro from gathering all the parts and then add warranty and the fact that it is a neat all in one bundle and that convenience closely balances out.
Plus you are supporting an American business (Detroit).

I honestly don't think that for a plug and play assembled in America kit with a 1 stop warranty that $100 to $200 will break the bank.

Most families in America (families of 4) spend twice that at a sporting event ie: baseball, football etc. when you take into account $10 hotdogs $6 drinks. All for just a few hours entertainment

This camera lasts quite a bit longer and it's a safety plus!
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$150-200 for a flash at the dealer??? Mine did it for around $45. Time to find a new dealer. I bought the audiovox camera, installed it in the bumper and wired directly to my 430N. Looks stock and I can see perfectly when backing hitch into a trailer. I haven't seen a better setup yet
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I am not disputing that the out of the box system is over priced for what it is, when you compare each component of the out of box system as opposed to manufacturing your own mounts lockpiks and the same. I am saying this. No matter how you go the installation time is going to be the same.
The all in one system for plug in to a 430 or 720 is $650 the alternative system cost about $300 lets say Just physical parts.
The difference is $350
Subtract from that $350 say ok $50 for a flash to radio if you don't go with an unlock module system
But for fun lets leave it at $350
How much time will be spent on part design, travel to from locations to get special parts, gas and the cost of parts. How much time researching other installs. How many dead ends? Postage for shipping. equate this over the amount of hours spent in gathering all resources to do your install from your own design? would 3 hrs seem about the right amount of time one would have to spend when all is said and done? 3 hours of time you spent over and beyond the time to do install. Time taken away from time off work, personal time.
take $350 divide by 3 is $116.67 per hr.
I value my personal time at greater than that.
That's 3 hr more free trail time
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All I was trying to do was provide my actual experience. Let's compare apples to apples. $60 for my camera and $45 for dealer flash. No other parts or brackets needed, just install time + $105 in parts. There's a great write up on the forum with wiring directly into 430N, so research is already done. If someone would rather spend more though, I certainly won't try to stop them
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All I was trying to do was provide my actual experience. Let's compare apples to apples. $60 for my camera and $45 for dealer flash. No other parts or brackets needed, just install time + $105 in parts. There's a great write up on the forum with wiring directly into 430N, so research is already done. If someone would rather spend more though, I certainly won't try to stop them
I was going to go that route because of the write up here on the forum. The problem for my application is that the Rubicon x foe 2014 has the same metal bumper as the 10A bumper. Drilling wasn't such a clear cut viable choice. I was not so certain that it would be easy or functional

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$650 and it uses my existing 730 screen? Not likely.
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All I was trying to do was provide my actual experience. Let's compare apples to apples. $60 for my camera and $45 for dealer flash. No other parts or brackets needed, just install time + $105 in parts. There's a great write up on the forum with wiring directly into 430N, so research is already done. If someone would rather spend more though, I certainly won't try to stop them
Whats your setup that you plugged directly into the 430?
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...only wish the camera had either fixed guide lines or moving guidelines...
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A few observations on these products:

1. This appears to be a BrandMotion product and AEV's only contribution is the OBDII flash module (i.e. Procal)

2. Although the product is expensive it is in line with the price of other products that Brand Motion offers for other vehicles so this is not all AEV's doing. JSW headlamps are also expensive and many hate them.

3. The camera and mounting have a nice design including the location of the LEDs but they will not fit on all wheels

These products have OEM quality integration which always carries a premium. Fortunately there are lower cost alternatives that work as well or better (more features) even if they are not as elegant. If Jeep offered this as a Wrangler factory option the pricing would be just as expensive and would probably be implemented in this exact manner.

It's just great to have options.
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The instructions say that the programming module is VIN locked for one use. What happens if you go to the dealer for a software upgrade/re flash? Will I now have to pay the dealer an additional $50-$100 to re activate the camera again?

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