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Old 01-06-2014, 10:49 PM   #1
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The Beginnings of my Safety/Recovery/Survival Kit are Taking Shape!

Of course I am just starting out and went largely from things I have read on the board. Here is what I have so far.

Cell phone charger (this doesn't really count as it lives in the Jeep anyhow)

Blanket.

A small duffle with:
-a change of clothes/shoes/extra sweatshirt
-a rain poncho
-a box of Kleenex (can double as TP)
-some empty gallon ziploc bags
-a 5x7 tarp which is reflective/waterproof on one side and blanketish on the other
-a big can of unsalted nuts (high protein and fat and low salt = good survival food)
-a bag of dried fruit
-a box of trail bars
-wet wipes
-sunscreen

-My first aid kit. I have the mother of all first aid kits-about the size of a large book, zip waterproof case with just about everything imagineable in it. (Replace perishables periodically such as pain reliever etc)

I bought two of these from Lowe's - very sturdy, good size, wide opening and can fit a ton of stuff. Technically I think I could cram just about all the rest of the stuff in one, but.....it just became too heavy for me to lift lol!

Shop AWP Polyester Zippered Closed Tool Bag at Lowes.com

2 Recovery Straps (loop ends) each 2"x30'
Leather palm work gloves
Mag Lite flashlight (along with extra batteries)
Alien flashlight (one of those random holiday gifts looks like ET but the legs are magnetic and bendable so may come in handy)
Airdown gauge
Tire Compressor
Tire Gauge
Pocket knife
Camo shop towels
Zip Ties
Paracord
Duck tape (if it moves and shouldn't!)
WD40 (if it should move and doesn't LOL!!!)
Foldable shovel
Fire starter thing and waterproof matches
Trail Axe
Torx bits/tool
Assorted bungies
Ratchet tie down straps
Bandanas
2 empty heavy trash bags

IN A SOFT SIDE COOLER: Will have to do bottled water until my ROtopax come in (I plan to rollbar mount)

I also have a small nylon back pack thing that can fit over the rear headrests to use for trash (tread lightly! also reusable, washable)

WHAT IS STILL MISSING:
-Fire extinguisher
-Winch and/or come-along, land anchors, tree saver etc (hopefully in the spring)
-Jumper Cables and/or Battery Charger
-Tools (I am not mechanically inclined but need a decent small tool set without a bazillion pieces)
-ROtopax for water mounted to roll bar (I am ordering these)
-Tire Repair Kit
-Fluids/Jeep pieces parts (caveat being my mechanical skills are limited!)
-CB Radio (still shopping)

I will try to update periodically as I get more stuff or realize I didn't need some of the stuff I have. I am not too worried on my first outing next week as there will be about 20 people in my group plus 2 leaders. And there are about 6 groups total so lots of people (most far more experienced/prepared than I am!) nearby if things go south.

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this is crazy and i was looking for a list like that wow thanks
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You need a trailer to carry all this
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-a box of Kleenex (can double as TP)
-some empty gallon ziploc bags
-a big can of unsalted nuts (high protein and fat and low salt = good survival food)
Could end bad. High protein and kleenex to wipe with.
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Add to your list the S.A.S. Survival book. Mini is about 3"X4"X1". Then read it. And re-read it......
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Good list, why does everyone forget the belt=fed weapons......geeeez
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Bad Brian lol I would rather have a bad ending with ahem intestinal "issues" (lol) above ground than with my intestines in a box 6 foot under.

It actually doesn't take that much room. If I were a guy with more upper body strength all the stuff except my clothes duffle and water so far would fit in one of the tool bags. I just couldn't lift it tho.

Added to list: belt fed weapon lol! And I will hunt down the survival book.
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Not going to be any room for you or passengers with all that stuff in there....lol.

Go for the winch, not the come a longs. Come a longs take up space on the inside.
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Not going to be any room for you or passengers with all that stuff in there....lol.

Go for the winch, not the come a longs. Come a longs take up space on the inside.
I have a JKU so plenty of room still. The Rotopax when they come in and the fire extinguisher will rollbar mount. The smushables (blanket/duffle) fit under the back seat. The two tool bags take up less room than the collection of reusable shopping bags that currently live in the cargo area (lol mallcrawler by day!) and if I have no backseat passengers they could fit on the back passenger floor.

The winch is my to do list when bonuses come early April.
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A good item for survival is extra socks. They can be used to hold things, double as gloves, and have numerous other uses.
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I would second the extra socks and throw I a non combustion heat source depending on where you live.
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Good list man...
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Ya know sometimes we can get carried away with these "survival/recovery kits".
I like to have stuff with me because I go alone most of the time, So YES, I have lots of STUFF... People look in the back of my Jeep and say..." Looks like ya live in the damned thing! " Well, I might have too some day.
Good list here, keep adding as you think of more items ya might need. Especially living in the Desert country..
Here in Oregon I carry an extra set of clothes and boots,coat, just incase I fall in a river.
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I'd throw in a way to kill/catch dinner....
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Of course I am just starting out and went largely from things I have read on the board. Here is what I have so far.

Cell phone charger (this doesn't really count as it lives in the Jeep anyhow)

Blanket.

A small duffle with:
-a change of clothes/shoes/extra sweatshirt
-a rain poncho
-a box of Kleenex (can double as TP)
-some empty gallon ziploc bags
-a 5x7 tarp which is reflective/waterproof on one side and blanketish on the other
-a big can of unsalted nuts (high protein and fat and low salt = good survival food)
-a bag of dried fruit
-a box of trail bars
-wet wipes
-sunscreen

-My first aid kit. I have the mother of all first aid kits-about the size of a large book, zip waterproof case with just about everything imagineable in it. (Replace perishables periodically such as pain reliever etc)

I bought two of these from Lowe's - very sturdy, good size, wide opening and can fit a ton of stuff. Technically I think I could cram just about all the rest of the stuff in one, but.....it just became too heavy for me to lift lol!

Shop AWP Polyester Zippered Closed Tool Bag at Lowes.com

2 Recovery Straps (loop ends) each 2"x30'
Leather palm work gloves
Mag Lite flashlight (along with extra batteries)
Alien flashlight (one of those random holiday gifts looks like ET but the legs are magnetic and bendable so may come in handy)
Airdown gauge
Tire Compressor
Tire Gauge
Pocket knife
Camo shop towels
Zip Ties
Paracord
Duck tape (if it moves and shouldn't!)
WD40 (if it should move and doesn't LOL!!!)
Foldable shovel
Fire starter thing and waterproof matches
Trail Axe
Torx bits/tool
Assorted bungies
Ratchet tie down straps
Bandanas
2 empty heavy trash bags

IN A SOFT SIDE COOLER: Will have to do bottled water until my ROtopax come in (I plan to rollbar mount)

I also have a small nylon back pack thing that can fit over the rear headrests to use for trash (tread lightly! also reusable, washable)

WHAT IS STILL MISSING:
-Fire extinguisher
-Winch and/or come-along, land anchors, tree saver etc (hopefully in the spring)
-Jumper Cables and/or Battery Charger
-Tools (I am not mechanically inclined but need a decent small tool set without a bazillion pieces)
-ROtopax for water mounted to roll bar (I am ordering these)
-Tire Repair Kit
-Fluids/Jeep pieces parts (caveat being my mechanical skills are limited!)
-CB Radio (still shopping)

I will try to update periodically as I get more stuff or realize I didn't need some of the stuff I have. I am not too worried on my first outing next week as there will be about 20 people in my group plus 2 leaders. And there are about 6 groups total so lots of people (most far more experienced/prepared than I am!) nearby if things go south.
I don't approve.

1) Pack baby wipes instead of tissues.
2) Pack a large jar of vaseline (lots of uses)
3) Pack a sealed (vacuum sealed) package of sugarcubes
4) Pack beef jerky. (you need real protein)
5) Pack fishing line and tackle.
6) Pack a box of weight gain bars (the ones bodybuilders use) not trail bars.
7) Replace the pocketknife with a multitool like a Leatherman
8) Replace the matches with a magnesium flint.
9) A real survival knife. The Gerber Bear Grylls knife is actually very good.
10) A small hatchet (again, the bear grylls line is great.)
11) Pack emergengy blankets (mylar)
12) Pack a 100 hour candle
13) A bunch of little bic lighters.
14) Some kind of water purification system (steripen, lifestraw, tablets, whatever.)
15) A solid metal canteen/waterbottle (so you can boil in it.)
16) Maglites are inefficient POS'es. Ditch it. Get a real LED flashlight like a surefire or better yet, a handcranking one so that you never run out.
17) A device that has an SOS function (depending on budget.)
18) A flare
19) 300 feet of 550 paracord.
20) Large condoms (yes Im serious). Great for sealing, first aid, water transport, etc.
Everything is available on amazon. That is NOT a complete list, but the basics are there.

This guy has great reviews
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BTW, little known fact, without salt, you die. You need salt out in the wild, ESPECIALLY in hot locations.
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Of course I am just starting out and went largely from things I have read on the board. Here is what I have so far.

Cell phone charger (this doesn't really count as it lives in the Jeep anyhow)

Blanket.

A small duffle with:
-a change of clothes/shoes/extra sweatshirt
-a rain poncho
-a box of Kleenex (can double as TP)
-some empty gallon ziploc bags
-a 5x7 tarp which is reflective/waterproof on one side and blanketish on the other
-a big can of unsalted nuts (high protein and fat and low salt = good survival food)
-a bag of dried fruit
-a box of trail bars
-wet wipes
-sunscreen

-My first aid kit. I have the mother of all first aid kits-about the size of a large book, zip waterproof case with just about everything imagineable in it. (Replace perishables periodically such as pain reliever etc)

I bought two of these from Lowe's - very sturdy, good size, wide opening and can fit a ton of stuff. Technically I think I could cram just about all the rest of the stuff in one, but.....it just became too heavy for me to lift lol!

Shop AWP Polyester Zippered Closed Tool Bag at Lowes.com

2 Recovery Straps (loop ends) each 2"x30'
Leather palm work gloves
Mag Lite flashlight (along with extra batteries)
Alien flashlight (one of those random holiday gifts looks like ET but the legs are magnetic and bendable so may come in handy)
Airdown gauge
Tire Compressor
Tire Gauge
Pocket knife
Camo shop towels
Zip Ties
Paracord
Duck tape (if it moves and shouldn't!)
WD40 (if it should move and doesn't LOL!!!)
Foldable shovel
Fire starter thing and waterproof matches
Trail Axe
Torx bits/tool
Assorted bungies
Ratchet tie down straps
Bandanas
2 empty heavy trash bags

IN A SOFT SIDE COOLER: Will have to do bottled water until my ROtopax come in (I plan to rollbar mount)

I also have a small nylon back pack thing that can fit over the rear headrests to use for trash (tread lightly! also reusable, washable)

WHAT IS STILL MISSING:
-Fire extinguisher
-Winch and/or come-along, land anchors, tree saver etc (hopefully in the spring)
-Jumper Cables and/or Battery Charger
-Tools (I am not mechanically inclined but need a decent small tool set without a bazillion pieces)
-ROtopax for water mounted to roll bar (I am ordering these)
-Tire Repair Kit
-Fluids/Jeep pieces parts (caveat being my mechanical skills are limited!)
-CB Radio (still shopping)

I will try to update periodically as I get more stuff or realize I didn't need some of the stuff I have. I am not too worried on my first outing next week as there will be about 20 people in my group plus 2 leaders. And there are about 6 groups total so lots of people (most far more experienced/prepared than I am!) nearby if things go south.
Is this being kept in your rig every day or, is this for a bug-out situation?

My bug out is packed to the gills also however; my every day carry is MUCH more streamlined.

Tire pump/patch kit
jumper cables
blanket
slingshot (with 50 balls)
All of that is kept in the little trunk.
I have a small bag that I keep Bubba rope and another tow rope along with gloves.
I have my first aid kit under the pass seat
I have my .357 Magnum with an "appropriate" amount of ammunition
I have a Uniden compact CB radio

I figure that is enough to keep me out of trouble for the short period.
Actual bug out, if needed requires our other vehicle to fit the entire family and all the crap I feel is necessary.
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I'd throw in a way to kill/catch dinner....
I really really really would need to be desperate to kill or catch dinner lol! I would be more a fruit and berries kind of person if my provisions ran out.

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I don't approve.

1) Pack baby wipes instead of tissues.
2) Pack a large jar of vaseline (lots of uses)
3) Pack a sealed (vacuum sealed) package of sugarcubes
4) Pack beef jerky. (you need real protein)
5) Pack fishing line and tackle.
6) Pack a box of weight gain bars (the ones bodybuilders use) not trail bars.
7) Replace the pocketknife with a multitool like a Leatherman
8) Replace the matches with a magnesium flint.
9) A real survival knife. The Gerber Bear Grylls knife is actually very good.
10) A small hatchet (again, the bear grylls line is great.)
11) Pack emergengy blankets (mylar)
12) Pack a 100 hour candle
13) A bunch of little bic lighters.
14) Some kind of water purification system (steripen, lifestraw, tablets, whatever.)
15) A solid metal canteen/waterbottle (so you can boil in it.)
16) Maglites are inefficient POS'es. Ditch it. Get a real LED flashlight like a surefire or better yet, a handcranking one so that you never run out.
17) A device that has an SOS function (depending on budget.)
18) A flare
19) 300 feet of 550 paracord.
20) Large condoms (yes Im serious). Great for sealing, first aid, water transport, etc.
Everything is available on amazon. That is NOT a complete list, but the basics are there.
I know you have a lot more experience at this stuff than I so I definitely have a few questions if you don't mind.

1) I already have wet wipes - tho I guess baby wipes would be softer. So noted. But I don't exactly want to blow my nose with baby wipes either lol!
2) Vaseline I have in my "amazing" first aid kit I referenced.
3) Sugar cubes I could add.
4) I hate hate hate beef jerky. Just because. I did pick up some high protein bars which have as much or more protein than beef jerky
5) I do not fish so what would I use tackle for?
6) Done.
7) If I have tools (which I still need to buy of course) and I have a knife, what else would I get from a "multi-tool" that isn't covered by a tool or a knife?
8) I do have a firestarter thing already on my list, I just didnt call it a flint but that is what it is
9) The knife I have looks pretty much just like the Bear G one with the partially serrated blade except by Smith & Wesson. It is not an itty bitty knife. I thought any knife that folded was called a pocket knife?
10) This may be a noob question, but I have an axe on my list. What is the difference between an axe and a hatchet?
11) My blanket that I listed as a tarp does have the reflective side if that is what you mean? I tried to google mylar blanket and that is the kind of stuff that came up.
12) Adding to my list.
13) I am a smoker so I always have a few.
14) Definitely need this.
15) Will try to find one.
16) When the maglite toasts I will upgrade when I replace.
17) Do you mean like an emergency beacon thing?
18) Adding to my list.
19) I already have - not quite that much though.
20) ! No comment.

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Is this being kept in your rig every day or, is this for a bug-out situation?
I won't have much use at the mall for a survival knife lol! And an axe may come in handy at the McDonald's drive though I suppose. The more basic stuffs like the first aid, tire stuff, jumper cables etc would be "around town". The more trail based stuff perhaps not so much (hmmm though one never knows when an opportunity will present to recover an upside down Hummer or FJ in the parking garage at work LOL!)

I thank all for the input and interested if there is anymore. I am learning!
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I really really really would need to be desperate to kill or catch dinner lol! I would be more a fruit and berries kind of person if my provisions ran out.



I know you have a lot more experience at this stuff than I so I definitely have a few questions if you don't mind.

1) I already have wet wipes - tho I guess baby wipes would be softer. So noted. But I don't exactly want to blow my nose with baby wipes either lol!
2) Vaseline I have in my "amazing" first aid kit I referenced.
3) Sugar cubes I could add.
4) I hate hate hate beef jerky. Just because. I did pick up some high protein bars which have as much or more protein than beef jerky
5) I do not fish so what would I use tackle for?
6) Done.
7) If I have tools (which I still need to buy of course) and I have a knife, what else would I get from a "multi-tool" that isn't covered by a tool or a knife?
8) I do have a firestarter thing already on my list, I just didnt call it a flint but that is what it is
9) The knife I have looks pretty much just like the Bear G one with the partially serrated blade except by Smith & Wesson. It is not an itty bitty knife. I thought any knife that folded was called a pocket knife?
10) This may be a noob question, but I have an axe on my list. What is the difference between an axe and a hatchet?
11) My blanket that I listed as a tarp does have the reflective side if that is what you mean? I tried to google mylar blanket and that is the kind of stuff that came up.
12) Adding to my list.
13) I am a smoker so I always have a few.
14) Definitely need this.
15) Will try to find one.
16) When the maglite toasts I will upgrade when I replace.
17) Do you mean like an emergency beacon thing?
18) Adding to my list.
19) I already have - not quite that much though.
20) ! No comment.



I won't have much use at the mall for a survival knife lol! And an axe may come in handy at the McDonald's drive though I suppose. The more basic stuffs like the first aid, tire stuff, jumper cables etc would be "around town". The more trail based stuff perhaps not so much (hmmm though one never knows when an opportunity will present to recover an upside down Hummer or FJ in the parking garage at work LOL!)

I thank all for the input and interested if there is anymore. I am learning!

Ok, lets clarify the confusion....you have to understand that my advice is for SURVIVAL gear, not comfort gear. These are the items you DO NOT need in your jeep on a day to day basis, but you should take with you when you go wheeling in the wilderness. Let me address your comments one by one.

1) When I said baby wipes I meant wet wipes. They are stronger than TP and can be used for a number of uses (bandaids, filters, etc.)

2)Vaseline...good that you have it, you can never have too much.
3) Definitely, they are flammable, can be used as bait, and pack a lot of fast calories...also good for diabetics.
4) Doesn't matter what you like, this is survival food, not comfort food. Meat protein takes longer to digest and sits in your stomach longer. Protein bars have their place, but they are not a replacement for jerky.
5) Doesn't matter. If you are starving, you need a way to catch fish. Some line and lures occupy no space, and can literally save your life. This isn't a buffet. SOmetimes to stay alive you need to drink your own urine...nobody wants to do it, but you do what you need to do to buy time. No one expects to end up in a survival situation, it just happens.

7) Tools are worthless in a survival situation. You may be forced to leave the jeep and you're not going to lug along tools. A multitool should be welded to your hip when out in the bush.

9) Is your knife a folding knife? Folding knives aren't as good for survival (besides, you have a folding knife on your multitool that you're gonna get . THe problem with a folding knife is strength...they can't take the punishment of a full tang knife (where the knife and the handle are one piece of steel.) Also, the thing I like about the BG knives is that the TOP of the knife has a special striker section to use with flint with, rather than the blade of the knife. Those flints really dull the hell out of knife blades.

10) Generally, an axe is large and long, and a hatchet has a short handle and is a "one hand" operation. Much more convenient to carry, and can be used as a knife....but an axe would be very difficult to use for delicate work (ie making a shelter.)

11) These are what you want. Great price as well. Keep 6 (use even numbers) or so in the jeep. They are small, and in an emergency, you need to use 2 per person.
Amazon.com: Pack of 20 Silver Emergency Blankets, 87" by 59", MCR Medical Supply: Sports & Outdoors

17) Something like this unit, something that can send an SOS signal and rescue to you...only needed if you REALLY go into the wilderness, and Im talking 50+ miles from any road.
http://www.amazon.com/DeLorme-AG-008...ywords=inreach

20) I know it's awkward, but they really are useful. You can substitute with rubber gloves (although not as convenient to use).
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Thanks! That is all very helpful.

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I have both the BG survival fixed blade knife and the Gerber LMF II. Both great knives but if I had to choose one I'd go with the LMF II. I highly recommend you read reviews and even watch some YouTube reviews, there is a lot of helpful information out there.

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I strongly recommend a compass, maps of the region your in, and a way to charge your cell phone. Something like a solar charger. They are on Amazon and arent very expensive. If these things were on the list already, I'm sorry, I just missed it.
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I strongly recommend a compass, maps of the region your in, and a way to charge your cell phone. Something like a solar charger. They are on Amazon and arent very expensive. If these things were on the list already, I'm sorry, I just missed it.
the biolite stove is a USB charger and uses burning wooden sticks for power....so technically, it's superior to solar since it can be used at all times. From the video reviews I saw, a 20 minute burn gives a 16% charge on an iphone...which is damn impressive.
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I seen those and they are awesome. I may definitely go that route at some point. I like your style.
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the biolite stove is a USB charger and uses burning wooden sticks for power....so technically, it's superior to solar since it can be used at all times. From the video reviews I saw, a 20 minute burn gives a 16% charge on an iphone...which is damn impressive.
Thats cool. I gotta check that out. Might have to replace the jetboil...
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Busse Combat Knifes are the Jeep of the knife world.
Toughest knife made..Fishing line can also be used to tie, lash, bind, fix bad cuts etc…
Get an LED flashlight with variable output settings like a NiteCore or simular light.
You should probably get one that uses AA batteries, I like 123's…
How about that CB Radio and air compressor?
You will want to go with a Hudson type axe..a bit larger than a hatchet and smaller than a full size axe. Sometimes called a Boy Scout Axe..
Don't forget a hat, the sun gets very hot..
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Hi

Iam not a knife expert but got the Ka-bar Becker Campanion BK2 knife mainly because it is rather cheap and is sturdy and looks cool. This knife has a fulltang construction and then is very sturdy. I was looking at Gerber LMF II and it looks cool but it is not a fulltang construction and then maybe less sturdy?? for heavy work????. I was also not sure if I would have any use of the serrated edge that a Gerber has. The KA-bar have carbon steel and can rust and the Gerber has stainless steel blade. But I may get a Gerber LMF II in the future But I got a real good deal on the Ka-bar so I could not resist.



The blade is very thick and is good for splitting wood that I show here in my badly made video from a camping trip

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KA-BAR is the way to go, i have had dozens of knives as i live an active lifestyle and use my knife almost everyday my KA-BAR is the only one that has kept up with me (10 years now). I have snapped at least a dozen folders although they are useful for carrying where you don't want anyone to see it, but for a survival situation fixed blades are the only option. Another good brand I found recently is Camillus, i have both a folding and fixed from them and the folder is the best ive ever owned, the action is just extremely strong. Also I hate Bear Grylls and would only use his knives if I planned to be followed around by a camera crew and never have my life depend on that knife.

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