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Old 03-03-2012, 09:22 AM   #601
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That "grease" looks like some kind of cloth tape. Did they use it to hold something during assembly of your lift maybe?

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Ya definitely not lithium grease! I work for an aerospace parts manufacturer and we make rod end assemblies as well. Ours have a different bearing surface but what your seeing is the rag liner bearing cloth migrating away from the rod end head. The spherical ball is supposed to ride on that liner as it stays in the rod end head. This is unfortunately common with low end rod end assemblies. It would be a good idea to replace this as it will eventually be a metal on metal situation with lots of slop when that liner completely moves. Hope it works out well for you!

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Ok, dropped the Jeep off at the dealer to inspect for DW and install my S ynergy bolts. They could not find any probs and said the weird strip on the joint eas lithium grease and normal. They also checked alignment and steering stabilizer and found no probs. Darn! I told them to give it to the technician for the weekend - that could be a big mistake if they go out partying! I'll pick it up early next week and let you know how things turn out.

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Good News! Thanks.

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They shipped from the F911 bolt manufacture to Poly today. Mine will be here next week with any luck and I'll ship back orders the next day.
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I got the drivers side bolt replaced but having a hell of a time getting to the passager side nut and bolt.
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.... early this afternoon. Installed Rugged Ridge Grill protector (black) and chahged out the worthless stock headlight bulbs (installed Philips H13 9008 X-treme Power Headlight Bulbs), ran a dozen errands, and, got home to find my bolt kit had arrived

1. The 4x4 shop had done a poor job when they installed my rear Adj trackbar, loose as a goose. kbwwolf is right again, want it done right, do it your self.

2. Only got the bolts in the rear track bar done today, as thats where all the "clunk","clunk" sounds were coming from when the Jeeps weight shifted side-2-side! Bolts came out easy with NO struggle and the fit (new bolts) inside the trackbar is tight!

3. Did notice though that the holes in the brackets welded to the jeep, which you attach each end of the trackbar, are OVER-SIZE as well. This could allow significant movement of the trackbar ends, within the bracket.

4. Test dove her and NO "clunk","clunk" coming from the rear

5. Laying on my back under the Jeep made it DAMN difficult to get the required 125-ftlb on the tracjbar bolts with so LITTLE room for leverage

Finally, I am concerned about the LARGE holes in the trackbar brackets (all I've done so far)
Glad everything worked out for you! Are you saying brackets (aftermarket) holes are enlarged? Or the frame side of the track bar (stock) are enlarged?

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I got the drivers side bolt replaced but having a hell of a time getting to the passager side nut and bolt.
the nut and bolt? Or sliding the bolt in. If I had to one I would assume you are doing the rear, frame side where the gas tank is? Use a straight combination wrench.
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Front or rear?

Front... I got the front replaced and it was a PITA to get the torque wrench on the passenger side. I'll do the rear next weekend.
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Front... I got the front replaced and it was a PITA to get the torque wrench on the passenger side. I'll do the rear next weekend.
You need an extension, and you need to have the steering turned towards the passenger side in order to toward the passenger side bolt.
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Ya definitely not lithium grease! I work for an aerospace parts manufacturer and we make rod end assemblies as well. Ours have a different bearing surface but what your seeing is the rag liner bearing cloth migrating away from the rod end head. The spherical ball is supposed to ride on that liner as it stays in the rod end head. This is unfortunately common with low end rod end assemblies. It would be a good idea to replace this as it will eventually be a metal on metal situation with lots of slop when that liner completely moves. Hope it works out well for you!
I pick up the Jeep today - here's what the technician emailed me this weekend about that weird black 'tape':

This is a fabric that fits between the metal of the joint to that urethane black bushing piece. There is no problem with it, this is how it is manufactured. There isnít any play in that joint, we trimmed back the fabric even though it was okay the way it was.


If my DW still happens I will swap out the mopar trackbar with a new one. On a Jeep with only 4K miles and a 2" lift I can't imagine anything else causing it. BTW, I had them install the F911 bolts, too, so perhaps that will help. They said the labor will be $240, so you guys that are doing it yourself are saving a lot of money! I was ready to do it myself, but I figured since they have it on the lift I'll pay them to do it, and that will force them to inspect each hole.
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You need an extension, and you need to have the steering turned towards the passenger side in order to toward the passenger side bolt.

I must be getting old.... after getting the front TB done and mowing the yard I was done for the day and retired to my recliner, an ice tea and a nap.
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$240 to install some bolts? That is a crazy rip off.
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you my friend got rippedd hard!
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typical for 2012?

Thanks for the great info. Has it been determined if this is the case with the 2012 wranglers also? Tom
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$240 to install some bolts? That is a crazy rip off.
I'd happily pay someone $240 to replace my hardware. At my hourly rate, I'm ripping myself off and I don't enjoy lying on damp concrete as much as I did when I first started working on 4WDs
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At least they acknowledged it at all and it sounds like an okay answer for now. Keep an eye on it yourself and take it from there.

Keep us posted on the DW issue and resolutions for that...


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I pick up the Jeep today - here's what the technician emailed me this weekend about that weird black 'tape':

This is a fabric that fits between the metal of the joint to that urethane black bushing piece. There is no problem with it, this is how it is manufactured. There isnít any play in that joint, we trimmed back the fabric even though it was okay the way it was.


If my DW still happens I will swap out the mopar trackbar with a new one. On a Jeep with only 4K miles and a 2" lift I can't imagine anything else causing it. BTW, I had them install the F911 bolts, too, so perhaps that will help. They said the labor will be $240, so you guys that are doing it yourself are saving a lot of money! I was ready to do it myself, but I figured since they have it on the lift I'll pay them to do it, and that will force them to inspect each hole.
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[QUOTE=blw2000;2104953 They said the labor will be $240, so you guys that are doing it yourself are saving a lot of money! I was ready to do it myself, but I figured since they have it on the lift I'll pay them to do it, and that will force them to inspect each hole.[/QUOTE]

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I'd happily pay someone $240 to replace my hardware. At my hourly rate, I'm ripping myself off and I don't enjoy lying on damp concrete as much as I did when I first started working on 4WDs

If anyone in the greater New England area thinks that $240 is a great deal to have these bolts installed, PM me, I'm your Huckleberry! Hell, I'd do it for a half a pizza and a 6 pack of IPA!
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If anyone in the greater New England area thinks that $240 is a great deal to have these bolts installed, PM me, I'm your Huckleberry! Hell, I'd do it for a half a pizza and a 6 pack of IPA!
Will be wrenching mine later this month most likely and could always use a knowing hand. Installing 19/60 factory springs, Bilsteins and the notorious bolt kit.

If you're up for the fun (I'm in Enfield) with a garage and good hand tools. We've got good pizza in town and life is too short to drink cheap beer so Harpoon, Longtrail Or Sam Adams all make a great IPA in 12 packs even.

Venture up if you dare!
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Just did mine. Was very easy. I had a pit to stand in to do it. Only wish i could change the frame side frt tb bolt. How hard is it to drill the center of the rod end?
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Will be wrenching mine later this month most likely and could always use a knowing hand. Installing 19/60 factory springs, Bilsteins and the notorious bolt kit.

If you're up for the fun (I'm in Enfield) with a garage and good hand tools. We've got good pizza in town and life is too short to drink cheap beer so Harpoon, Longtrail Or Sam Adams all make a great IPA in 12 packs even.

Venture up if you dare!
That invite makes me want to come up, but my bolt kit is on back order and hasn't arrived yet!
The invite itself carries power though, and I for one appreciate it. Thank you!
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My kits shipped today so I'll have them Monday and will ship all back orders Monday/Tuesday. You should all have them by next weekend.

Thank you for the patience.
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Thanks All for the bolt info and where to get them from. Mine are on order. Can't believe they had the threads to the head. What a bunch of gomers the engineers were.
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Just did mine. Was very easy. I had a pit to stand in to do it. Only wish i could change the frame side frt tb bolt. How hard is it to drill the center of the rod end?
If it were me I would find a local machine shop to do it.
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My bolt kit is also currently back ordered but it sounds like they are close to shipping! I wrench a lot of my own rides but help always works on these bigger projects and that's why I "take care" of my cowrenchers. Thanks for acknowledging that!

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Will be wrenching mine later this month most likely and could always use a knowing hand. Installing 19/60 factory springs, Bilsteins and the notorious bolt kit.

If you're up for the fun (I'm in Enfield) with a garage and good hand tools. We've got good pizza in town and life is too short to drink cheap beer so Harpoon, Longtrail Or Sam Adams all make a great IPA in 12 packs even.

Venture up if you dare!


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I'll let you know when the bolt kit arrives and I'm ready to tear this thing apart!

Would like to look at your Rubi's current set up with the spacers and 32's as I might try to offset the wheels out just a little to balance out the 1.5 to 2 inches I hope to get with the springs. I will most likely be running my 32's for at least another year...

And yes good pizza up this way for this little town.


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I'll let you know when the bolt kit arrives and I'm ready to tear this thing apart!

Would like to look at your Rubi's current set up with the spacers and 32's as I might try to offset the wheels out just a little to balance out the 1.5 to 2 inches I hope to get with the springs. I will most likely be running my 32's for at least another year...

And yes good pizza up this way for this little town.
When ever you are ready

Spray PB blaster on the bolts being removed/loosened ASAP.
How does the underside look?

I had a problem with my front upper shock mount and still need to replace a front UCA bolt that is frozen. something to think about with an older jeep.... Rust

Good time to do the bolts when lifting.

Here are some of my latest pics w/ stock 32's and wheel spacers. Soon 35's
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Perfect looking stance on your Rubi if you ask me!

I was lucky enough to buy my 09 last year with just under 3K miles so this is the 1st winter it's even seen. The paper ID labels are just starting to fall off the suspension components so I'm hoping that will equate to like working on a new truck...

With that said I've worked on all kinds of rusty old New England Vehicles over the years so I still spray them just to be safe and make this a no issues event.

Thanks again for the Pics. Great looking ride!

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Spray PB blaster on the bolts being removed/loosened ASAP.
How does the underside look?

I had a problem with my front upper shock mount and still need to replace a front UCA bolt that is frozen. something to think about with an older jeep.... Rust

Good time to do the bolts when lifting.

Here are some of my latest pics w/ stock 32's and wheel spacers. Soon 35's
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Perfect looking stance on your Rubi if you ask me!

I was lucky enough to buy my 09 last year with just under 3K miles so this is the 1st winter it's even seen. The paper ID labels are just starting to fall off the suspension components so I'm hoping that will equate to like working on a new truck...

With that said I've worked on all kinds of rusty old New England Vehicles over the years so I still spray them just to be safe and make this a no issues event.

Thanks again for the Pics. Great looking ride!
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It was nice out today, and I tried to install the new bolts. Started off with the frameside trackbar bolt, it guess what, it doesn't fit. I can't even stick the bolt through the bushing on its own, let alone through the mounts and the bushing. Tried greasing the bolt, no go. Tried tapping it through with a rubber mallet, no go. Not even going to attempt the other bolts now. Frustrating to say the least.

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