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Old 03-28-2012, 05:52 PM   #781
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So I just picked up my baby from Endangered Species.... HOLY $H.T!!!!!!!! The ball joints were replaced with MOOG and I had them install the bolts... I have NEVER felt my car drive like that!! I also had them replace the stock stabilizer (I know it masks but I hated how the stock felt and took forever to recover from bumps) with a new one. Totally different feel in steering the vehicle. Took me a few to get used to it, feels a bit heavier but most def recovers better.

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Old 04-02-2012, 04:33 PM   #782
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One issue I did encounter is last night when I took the Jeep out for a test drive, I noticed that my steering wheel was no longer centered.
Anyone else have that happen? Doesn't seem like it should have.

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Anyone else have that happen? Doesn't seem like it should have.
Me!!
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After a lift? yes

Without an adjustable TB the axle will pull off center, this affects the drag link to pitman arm and throws the steering off.

Adjust the steering back to center
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:22 PM   #785
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OK so before I wrench my only ride apart for this I would like to have the bolts beside me when I start! Does the length vary for different years and bars? Looks like they might be 3-4 in 9/16 bolts? Or did I miss it somewhere allready posted...which is entirelly possible!

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Old 04-02-2012, 07:28 PM   #786
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After a lift? yes

Without an adjustable TB the axle will pull off center, this affects the drag link to pitman arm and throws the steering off.

Adjust the steering back to center
I meant with just changing the bolts... after a lift I know it changes.


Give me some credit. I know I'm slow, but dang!
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:45 PM   #787
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OK so before I wrench my only ride apart for this I would like to have the bolts beside me when I start! Does the length vary for different years and bars? Looks like they might be 3-4 in 9/16 bolts? Or did I miss it somewhere allready posted...which is entirelly possible!

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4 short TB and 8 long CA's

Or do I have that backwards? Lol

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Old 04-02-2012, 07:48 PM   #788
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I meant with just changing the bolts... after a lift I know it changes.

Give me some credit. I know I'm slow, but dang!
Realized what you guys were talking about
after I posted

So no, the steering should not change.
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:56 PM   #789
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Realized what you guys were talking about
after I posted

So no, the steering should not change.
Yea I just caught that some folks said it did by JUST changing the bolts. Seems really odd....

And it's ok I forgive you...
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Yea I just caught that some folks said it did by JUST changing the bolts. Seems really odd....

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Old 04-02-2012, 11:53 PM   #791
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Did someone mention bolts?
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:54 PM   #792
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I just had the mechanic swap out the bolts including the Front Frame track bar bolt with a 14mm. It took an hour and cost me 146.00. High, but I couldnt do it myself. It was worth it cause I got to see the whole thing and now I have peace of mind. I hope its all good now.

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Old 04-03-2012, 09:58 PM   #793
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Im assuming someone has already asked this question so if you can shoot me the link or provide an answer that would be helpful!! So can i swap these bolts out myself without any help? and would i need to jack the jeep off the ground or can it stay grounded?

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Yes you can swap the bolts yourself with some basic 1/2 drive tools and a few wrenches. You can do this with the wheels on the ground or jack up your Jeep and place a jackstand under the axle on each side so you have more room.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:30 PM   #795
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Yes you can swap the bolts yourself with some basic 1/2 drive tools and a few wrenches. You can do this with the wheels on the ground or jack up your Jeep and place a jackstand under the axle on each side so you have more room.

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Thank you very much! I didnt want to me changing out the bolt and then become road kill! hahah
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:20 AM   #796
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Just changed the bolts on the track bar and lower control arms. I have a couple questions . . . How do I torque the nuts on the front and rear track bar? I can't reach them with the wrench. Can I torque the bolt instead? or can I reverse the direction the bolt goes to make the nut more accessible???

Also, the upper control arms look almost impossible to do, especially the rear uppers. I can't even figure out how to get to the passenger side rear upper control arm's bolt furthest to the rear.

Has anyone else noticed these issues???
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Just changed the bolts on the track bar and lower control arms. I have a couple questions . . . How do I torque the nuts on the front and rear track bar? I can't reach them with the wrench. Can I torque the bolt instead? or can I reverse the direction the bolt goes to make the nut more accessible???

Also, the upper control arms look almost impossible to do, especially the rear uppers. I can't even figure out how to get to the passenger side rear upper control arm's bolt furthest to the rear.

Has anyone else noticed these issues???
I did mine on a lift and had a spare set of hands. It's a pain but it is doable.
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Just changed the bolts on the track bar and lower control arms. I have a couple questions . . . How do I torque the nuts on the front and rear track bar? I can't reach them with the wrench. Can I torque the bolt instead? or can I reverse the direction the bolt goes to make the nut more accessible???

Also, the upper control arms look almost impossible to do, especially the rear uppers. I can't even figure out how to get to the passenger side rear upper control arm's bolt furthest to the rear.

Has anyone else noticed these issues???
Yes you may switch the direction of the bolt or torque from the bolt side.
The rearmost rear upper control arm bolts are much easier if your emove the wheels and have the axle supported by jackstands.
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I'm really late to this party . I just read this sticky, err, most of it.

Last summer I put on the AEV 3.5" premium kit and I don't recall if these bolts were changed or not. B4 I start buying bolts and installing them, can someone tell me if AEV fixed this with their kit or not?

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I'm really late to this party . I just read this sticky, err, most of it.

Last summer I put on the AEV 3.5" premium kit and I don't recall if these bolts were changed or not. B4 I start buying bolts and installing them, can someone tell me if AEV fixed this with their kit or not?

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i don't remember seeing this info... but can this same bolt set be used on a 99 tj?

thanks! lots of great info here
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i don't remember seeing this info... but can this same bolt set be used on a 99 tj?

thanks! lots of great info here
No. The component and bolt sizes are entirely different for TJs.
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Hi, I read through a lot of this thread. My Jeep JKUR is on order, should I just ask the dealer to swap the bolts when I pick it up? I don't want problems down the road if I can be proactive now.

Let me know your thoughts.

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Hi, I read through a lot of this thread. My Jeep JKUR is on order, should I just ask the dealer to swap the bolts when I pick it up? I don't want problems down the road if I can be proactive now.

Let me know your thoughts.

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They may not do it. Mine was at dealership to check out something when the tech noticed the bolts.. does the phrase "what the hell is all of this shit" mean anything to you? I tried to explain why they were changed but I pretty much was dismissed. "The bushings shouldn't do that, they have a metal center".
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Quick question...do these bolts have to be fine thread?
My hardware store only has the normal thread but they have all the parts
I need.

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Quick question...do these bolts have to be fine thread?
My hardware store only has the normal thread but they have all the parts
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Shouldn't matter. As long as the nuts thread on the bolt, fine or normal thread will work the same.
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Are these guys serious?

Went to this other forum looking for help with some stuff - you have to check this out!

Free Pizza/Beer for Help With Swapping Out My Stock Bolts

Are they for real??
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Thought I'd add a little tech to this because I haven't seen this posted and I was asked in a PM from a customer.

The question was can the Stover Lock Nuts be re-used and this was my reply.


No problem, they can be use a few times and still remain effective.

Basically the top threads of the nut are distorted and that's called prevailing torque. Layman's terms they spin free until the top thread hits the bolt and from that point on you have to use a wrench to get them on/off. If you keep reusing them the distorted top threads could eventually loose the resistance. So basically if at some point if the nuts spin freely all the way down the bolt past the top thread they are done.

Who ever thought there was so much tech in a nut

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