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Old 05-04-2013, 11:10 PM   #31
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I also got the 10 Anniversary Rubicon and paid $1530 extra (730N), so to my surprise, got a very crappy sounding system. Aren't the speakers suppose to all be Alpine brand? I took out one from the sound-bar and they are just generic made in china with a chrysler stamp? Right on the 2013 Wranglers brochure is states that Rubicon's come standard with Seven Alpine speakers, subwoofer and amp. Does yours come with Alpine and still sounds horrible?



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SO LETS GET RID OF THE CRAP FACTORY AUDIO SYSTEM!


i know there are a lot of threads on audio. searched high and low but didnt find what i want to discuss. here is the deal, and im guessing there are several of you in the same boat... I paid a lot for the 730N (2013 Rubi 10th Anniversary) with 'Premium Audio' so i want to keep the head unit (and i actually like the sirius integration and related functionality). However, i want to upgrade EVERYTHING else.

Many recommendations in several threads on speakers, amps, line converters, dynamat, etc etc yada yada. great, SO i ordered all that and its sitting here at my house in a pile:

AudioControl LC7i - Line Converter
Polk MM651 speakers for the sound bar
Polk MM6501 component speakers for the dash
Polk MM840 sub for the factory enclosure
Alpine PDXV9 to power all the speakers and sub

I started looking at exactly how im going to wire this setup... but one thing has left me dumbfounded. I cant find info on how to wire up the AudioControl LC7i line converter (many have said this is the way to go - and really the ONLY way to keep the head unit and get great sound)

From what i have read, i need to attach the speaker wires that are coming out of the factory amp under the dash, to the Speaker Level Inputs on the LC7i. I plan to place the LC7i right next to the factory amp under the dash. From there i can run my RCA cables to the new Amp which will be under the drivers seat. I would love to hear from someone that has done this, so i can figure out the best way to do the following:

- The LC7i needs a 12V power source. What do i tap into to get this? I am assuming i can use an existing 12v wire running to the factory amp? right? Or do i have to go to the battery? i also read that i can tap into the 12v outlet in the center console. Im confused here. whats the 'right' way to do this?

- The LC7i has an input for 'Remote In'. the instructions say that this 'may not be needed' for certain cars. what about our JKs? Do i need to wire this, and if so, what existing wire do i use for this? I am assuming the 'Remote Out' would host the wire that will go to my new amp.

Im not exactly a moron, but i am little hesitant to start cutting wires and ripping up my beloved rubicon and then end up standing in front of the mess scratching my head. Im no electrician.

thanks for reading this and I hope to hear back from you guys!

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I also got the 10 Anniversary Rubicon and paid $1530 extra (730N), so to my surprise, got a very crappy sounding system. Aren't the speakers suppose to all be Alpine brand? I took out one from the sound-bar and they are just generic made in china with a chrysler stamp? Right on the 2013 Wranglers brochure is states that Rubicon's come standard with Seven Alpine speakers, subwoofer and amp. Does yours come with Alpine and still sounds horrible?
Haven't got my JKUR yet, but now you got me worried

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The issue isn't just the speakers (although they're pretty crap), it's the appalling amp.

If you want decent sound, be prepared to replace the amp and speakers. If you want to keep the factory head unit, then the OP is on the right lines. Line output converter (because the HUs have no pre-outs), aftermarket amp (along with the cabling that goes with it, including direct power), and new speakers all round (including subwoofer).
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I also got the 10 Anniversary Rubicon and paid $1530 extra (730N), so to my surprise, got a very crappy sounding system. Aren't the speakers suppose to all be Alpine brand? I took out one from the sound-bar and they are just generic made in china with a chrysler stamp? Right on the 2013 Wranglers brochure is states that Rubicon's come standard with Seven Alpine speakers, subwoofer and amp. Does yours come with Alpine and still sounds horrible?
Yes, I listened to the base and premium stereo systems in 13' Wranglers while test driving... both stereo systems sound like sh!t (in my opinion). You can get superior aftermarket equipment for less money than what they charge for that junk they put in there.

Just my opinion (and most others in the Comm & Elec section). Those who aren't that picky might not care though. I noticed muddy and shallow sound in the 'premium' system. Paying $1500 for that junk... I am speechless .
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Not sure there's much, and I'd be concerned about cooling in there.
Newer digital amps don't get that hot. The one I'm running for my subs now has been pretty much sealed in under my rear seat for going on 2 years with no ill effects. I was concerned at first, but touch test had it cooler than a cup of coffee.

You can find a pretty small 4ch amp to hide up in there...
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The issue isn't just the speakers (although they're pretty crap), it's the appalling amp.

If you want decent sound, be prepared to replace the amp and speakers. If you want to keep the factory head unit, then the OP is on the right lines. Line output converter (because the HUs have no pre-outs), aftermarket amp (along with the cabling that goes with it, including direct power), and new speakers all round (including subwoofer).
Woansleftpeg is totally correct. I left my 130N in my Jeep but have an incredible sound system now. I replaced all 7 speakers along with the subwoofer, and put in a powerful 5-chan amp. My Jeep now ROCKS, and I can now control my subwoofer.
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I was thinking of replacing anyways, just thought that an "Alpine" system was going to be fine for a while and spend my money on suspension first. I feel a bit duped by not getting what is advertised. I have been reading other threads where several members have been receiving wrong parts installed or missing items. Should there be Alpine brand speakers in there? Are those alpine and just not have their logo?


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The issue isn't just the speakers (although they're pretty crap), it's the appalling amp.

If you want decent sound, be prepared to replace the amp and speakers. If you want to keep the factory head unit, then the OP is on the right lines. Line output converter (because the HUs have no pre-outs), aftermarket amp (along with the cabling that goes with it, including direct power), and new speakers all round (including subwoofer).
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Should have the alpine logo.
But like the ram that had infinity premium sound its garbage. You can put cheapo components in and get better sound.
A lot of that can be fixed with an aftermarket head unit or several hundred dollars in oher parts and keep your factory one.
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How big is the factory hole for tweets up front?
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I have a 2013 JKUR and upgraded the muddy alpine system to a all kicker and LC8 to PDX5 sound system. Amp and LC8 under the seat. Looks stealthy with doors off and look stock with all the stock grills on. used this for mounting the amp and Lc8

Go to eBay, and search for "Jeep Wrangler Jk Unlimited Under Seat Bracket." I would post a link but I don't want to break any forum rules.
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hey guys. back after a long weekend. i havent started any of this work, but plan to this week or weekend.

there not much room anywhere in the dash at all. there is a bit of space behind the glove box, but not much - not enough for an amp or really any other sort of component.

i am planning on putting the LC7i under the steering column. once you take off the plastic piece and steel plate under the steering wheel, you'll see a wired box - it almost looks like a small amp. it has heat sink ridges along the top, so im guessing that whatever it does, it'll get warm. any ideas on what this is? Anyway, i am going to mount the LC7i on top of this. im going to raise it off it an inch or so to ensure it'll cool, but there is def enough room for it there. I am mounting it here mostly because its next to the factory amp, and i can connect the speaker wires directly to the LC7i without splicing/extending the existing speaker wires.

As for the amp, there is a lot of room under the drivers seat, so im putting it there. there is room under the pass seat as well, but thats the seat that'll get tilted forward (i have a 2 dr) and will get the occasional passenger, so the drivers seat seems like a better spot.

I dont know if the 4 door has a metal bar under the seats. for some reason, i think this is only the 2 door. here's a pic of it...




I already cut this thing out - against several suggestions not to. My only hesitation with cutting this thing, was what if i make something in the 10A less stable, less secure. well nobody could explain what this bar does. if you really take a look at how the seat is built, and how its bolted to the floor, i really cant figure out what purpose this plays. yes, its a thick steel bar - so it MUST be there for something right? well i am taking the risk.

Im going to use pipe clamps on the stub ends of this that still exist on the frame, and im going to attach to relatively small steel plates across the gap - from clamp to clamp, to hold the amp about 1.5" off the carpet. I'll take pics when i get this done.
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I have a 2013 JKUR and upgraded the muddy alpine system to a all kicker and LC8 to PDX5 sound system. Amp and LC8 under the seat. Looks stealthy with doors off and look stock with all the stock grills on. used this for mounting the amp and Lc8

Go to eBay, and search for "Jeep Wrangler Jk Unlimited Under Seat Bracket." I would post a link but I don't want to break any forum rules.
duuuude... that bracket is awesome.

so i think that answers my questions about the steel bar under my seats - the 4 door doesnt have them. weird. i wonder if the bracket would fit under my seat with the steel bar removed? hmmmm i might even just buy it and find out - perhaps some mods to it will be required, but it would be great to have this.

Also, how was the wiring for your LC8? can you describe a bit about how and where you pulled the speaker wires? Im assuming you took them straight from the factory amp, but its way tight under there and not much room. did you splice into them and then run new wire to the LC8 under your seat?
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How big is the factory hole for tweets up front?
hey Steve.

from what i have read, the existing holes are just under 2" diameter. with the polk tweeters - and several others, you'll need to grind 1/16" or so from the existing holes to fit the new tweeters. a dremel would be good for this, but a drill with a grinder big would work well too. thats my plan.
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Woansleftpeg is totally correct. I left my 130N in my Jeep but have an incredible sound system now. I replaced all 7 speakers along with the subwoofer, and put in a powerful 5-chan amp. My Jeep now ROCKS, and I can now control my subwoofer.
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Does anybody have experience with these JL Audio stealth boxes?? Are they any good? Here is a link http://www.jlaudio.com/car-audio-ste...gler-2dr-07-up
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duuuude... that bracket is awesome.

so i think that answers my questions about the steel bar under my seats - the 4 door doesnt have them. weird. i wonder if the bracket would fit under my seat with the steel bar removed? hmmmm i might even just buy it and find out - perhaps some mods to it will be required, but it would be great to have this.

Also, how was the wiring for your LC8? can you describe a bit about how and where you pulled the speaker wires? Im assuming you took them straight from the factory amp, but its way tight under there and not much room. did you splice into them and then run new wire to the LC8 under your seat?
I ran all new wiring from the factory amp to the LC8 under my driver side seat. I modified my bracket to be able to stack my lc8 and PDX5 amp.

So factory amp to lc8 then from lc8 to factory area where i cut the existing wires and then ran all new wiring lol. It really was one hell of a process pulling panels and moving slowly. I'm almost done just have to wire in the sub and then it should be a new chapter in my JKURs life lol.

I'm not sure if the bracket will fit under the 2 door. I designed it only for the 4. I'm kind of curious though.
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I didn't use a LOC for the Jeep. I did in my last vehicle before I realized that the stock HU was also a POS and I replaced that.

I use a relay for a couple reasons. One is I have other electronics that need to run off of switched power. The Sirius tuner, amp remote, alarm system in, etc. The other is that Pioneer remote outs are sensitive to mA draw. They recommend nothing more than 130mA for outs. One amp is fine but 2 or more things triggered from that remote out and the HU can be at risk. (Pioneer thing). So the relay pulls about 30mA which keeps the HU safe.

I believe the amp is the item that has the heat sink under the drivers side dash. I never really looked at it. Once I unplugged the factory crappy HU and used all my other stuff, I left that thing there.
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I was thinking of replacing anyways, just thought that an "Alpine" system was going to be fine for a while and spend my money on suspension first. I feel a bit duped by not getting what is advertised. I have been reading other threads where several members have been receiving wrong parts installed or missing items. Should there be Alpine brand speakers in there? Are those alpine and just not have their logo?
I have the Alpine "premium" package, and having removed it all I think the only place I saw the Alpine logo is on the cover for the sub. They may have manufactured the components but I'm not surprised at them being embarrassed to put their name on them.
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Don't forget the awful factory tweeters. What I thought was bad reception on a few FM stations was actually horrible reproduction from the tweets (scratchiness). Not sure how they come out but I think it would make a world of difference.

Turned my base system up the other day, tons of vibration in the sound bar. Need some sound deadening material too.

You must pick the right tweeter to replace, as some are too "bright" and will drive you nuts after. Best to listen to some at the store and decide.

Told myself I'd never swap another car audio system... but think I will in the near future. This one is just so bad.
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Don't forget the awful factory tweeters. What I thought was bad reception on a few FM stations was actually horrible reproduction from the tweets (scratchiness). Not sure how they come out but I think it would make a world of difference.

Turned my base system up the other day, tons of vibration in the sound bar. Need some sound deadening material too.

You must pick the right tweeter to replace, as some are too "bright" and will drive you nuts after. Best to listen to some at the store and decide.

Told myself I'd never swap another car audio system... but think I will in the near future. This one is just so bad.
The tweeters are incredibly easy to replace, but if you want to do it right I would strongly advise replacing them at the same time as the front mids and using a component speaker set to do it. This will give you a passive crossover designed to optimise their sound, and with most units also some attenuation control to reduce the impact of the top end.

The other problem you may well find is that the EQ on the stock head units is awful. If you're going to use good quality speakers then you're going to find the weaknesses in the sound just as noticeable as the improvements; a good aftermarket HU will give you a proper multi-band EQ instead of the Mattel 3 band EQ on the factory units.
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I ran all new wiring from the factory amp to the LC8 under my driver side seat. I modified my bracket to be able to stack my lc8 and PDX5 amp.

So factory amp to lc8 then from lc8 to factory area where i cut the existing wires and then ran all new wiring lol. It really was one hell of a process pulling panels and moving slowly. I'm almost done just have to wire in the sub and then it should be a new chapter in my JKURs life lol.

I'm not sure if the bracket will fit under the 2 door. I designed it only for the 4. I'm kind of curious though.
So its your bracket that you designed and build? can you provide dimensions? i will check the specs under the 2 door seats to see how they are different - i know the seat frames are different, just not exactly sure in what regard. if the width from rail to rail is the same, then i can prob make that bracket work. one thing i really want to avoid is taking out my seat. does your bracket require seat removal?
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Can't help but wonder if the bar isn't there to keep stuff from sliding under the seat and under the driver's feet? You know, like under airline seats.
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There are so many problems with the system that it is basically easier to rip it all out.

Basically, don't spend money on a 430 or 730 when you order...that way you won't feel as bad ripping it out later.

There are two ways to fix the problem.

Keep the stock HU and work downstream of the stock amp (LOC, singnal processor,
cleansweep, ect).
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Rip it all out (better EQ and pre-amp outs)
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Since I have a Sport with the low budget sound system it was easier to chuck the entire thing. I installed a Pioneer head unit, Alpine amp, Polk speakers and new speaker wire. Night and day difference.
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Since I have a Sport with the low budget sound system it was easier to chuck the entire thing. I installed a Pioneer head unit, Alpine amp, Polk speakers and new speaker wire. Night and day difference.
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hi Camper,

where did you put the amp? anything notable about wiring, etc?
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I feel good knowing my cheapo 130 unit is sitting in a box with all of the factory speakers. I had the new equipment on order and half received at my house before the Jeep arrived. My 1st weekend with it was spent in the garage/driveway with dash pieces removed, wiring all over the place, plugging in everything, etc.
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hi Camper,

where did you put the amp? anything notable about wiring, etc?
The amp is under the driver's seat. Wiring is straight forward, just ran it under the door sill and B pillar plastic. I took a few pictures. My advice it to order from Crutchfield unless you know exactly how to install your stuff. They may be a bit more expensive initially but having tech support there when you need them and that they are in the US and speak english properly is beyond value.
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i had an 09 sahara with the infiniti system and now have a 2013 with the alpine. the infiniti blows the alpine away, enough so where i was satisfied keeping it. the alpine blows, very disappointing. i will be following this thread.
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One of my first upgrade plans. Going to go with a JL 900/5, Polk components up front, JL cleansweep for stock HU, JL Stealth Box with the 13" slim sub, and still working out what to put in the sound bar.

Are the sound bar speakers only mid woofers or are they coax?
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They must be coaxial. Took one out and it had a mesh covering so I didn't take it off. I'm sure it's a paper woofer and paper cone tweeter. Don't be afraid and take one out of the soundbar and check. They are garbage, little weight and a tiny magnet.

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