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Old 10-11-2012, 04:45 AM   #31
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I also got the full set of ALL Gorilla lugs
made especially for Quadratec.
It is a set of 23 lugs.
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I had a set (all 24) of spline-drive Gorillas on my F150. As long as you had the special socket to remove them, no issues. But they'd be a bitch otherwise.

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I can not find out anything on the gorilla website if they work with steel wheels. I bought a set of Mopar (macgards) and when I got home on the inside of the package at the bottom of the instruction sheet it said "do not use on steel wheels" not sure why but I took them back. looking for a set that work with stock steel wheels.
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I can not find out anything on the gorilla website if they work with steel wheels. I bought a set of Mopar (macgards) and when I got home on the inside of the package at the bottom of the instruction sheet it said "do not use on steel wheels" not sure why but I took them back. looking for a set that work with stock steel wheels.
I would not use the mcgard locks on my lawnmower. They are trash.
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I had a set (all 24) of spline-drive Gorillas on my F150. As long as you had the special socket to remove them, no issues. But they'd be a bitch otherwise.
Ya, that's the point of locking nuts lollllll
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Ya, that's the point of locking nuts lollllll
Locking lugs are painfully easy to screw up or damage (the little recess the key fits in). And the little recess fills with crud.

Spline-drive lugs, not so much.
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I will pay anyone here $1000 in cash if they can get my s2000 wheels off within 30 minutes, and not alert a person sitting in my house. You can use whatever you want. A welder, vice grips, etc etc etc. If you fail however, you will owe me a new set of wheels. Gorillas are made with a mixture of metals that welds don't stick to. They cannot be vice gripped. You cannot bang a socket onto them. Nothing. They are theft-proof.
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I wish the dealer at least gave me the normal lugs in place of the locking mopar ones my jeep came with (one per wheel). so I can't even go back unless I buy some new lugs.
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I got them on my new 2013. I may end up taking them off but leaving them on the spare.
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I have been around that block before. Believe me. With your deductible and rate increase due to a theft claim locking lugs are cheap.

Amen!

at the very least lock the spare...that is just too easy to steal....look on craigslist...funny how you seem to see A LOT of brand new single jeep rim and tires for sale with no miles....obviously someones spare


.... and my deductible is to high to cover a spare theft (mine is $500)
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I will pay anyone here $1000 in cash if they can get my s2000 wheels off within 30 minutes, and not alert a person sitting in my house. You can use whatever you want. A welder, vice grips, etc etc etc. If you fail however, you will owe me a new set of wheels. Gorillas are made with a mixture of metals that welds don't stick to. They cannot be vice gripped. You cannot bang a socket onto them. Nothing. They are theft-proof.
They make kits specifically for removing wheel locks. I have NEVER encountered a set of wheel locks I could not remove within 5 minutes. I worked for Discount Tire for 6 years and many people lose their wheel lock key. Whether they were the key or spline style, they're off very quickly if you know what you're doing. A lot of the gorilla spline type can be pulled off with a regular 17mm socket for most common sizes, for the bigger trucks I think it's a 19mm. You might deter amateurs from stealing your wheels, but if you get someone who knows what they're doing, your wheels are still gone. And for me, if I'm in the business of stealing wheels, the first thing I'm going to do when I see a wheel lock key is break into your vehicle to find the key that is in the car 95% of the time. So on top of wheels, add in the cost of a new window or soft top.

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I have a set of gorilla locking nuts on my Jeep. Now I'm wondering where the heck did I put the key?
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You might deter amateurs from stealing your wheels, but if you get someone who knows what they're doing, your wheels are still gone.
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While all of you are right that you can't stop someone who really knows what they’re doing, locking lugs will deter your average druggy trash trying to make a quick buck at your expense (which unfortuately is a lot of people). It’s more about deterrence than it is prevention.
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They make kits specifically for removing wheel locks. I have NEVER encountered a set of wheel locks I could not remove within 5 minutes. I worked for Discount Tire for 6 years and many people lose their wheel lock key. Whether they were the key or spline style, they're off very quickly if you know what you're doing. A lot of the gorilla spline type can be pulled off with a regular 17mm socket for most common sizes, for the bigger trucks I think it's a 19mm. You might deter amateurs from stealing your wheels, but if you get someone who knows what they're doing, your wheels are still gone. And for me, if I'm in the business of stealing wheels, the first thing I'm going to do when I see a wheel lock key is break into your vehicle to find the key that is in the car 95% of the time. So on top of wheels, add in the cost of a new window or soft top.

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I don't get this - you say you (or someone who knows what they are doing) can take one off in minutes...but then the first thing that you (or a professional wheel thief) are going to do is smash glass and rifle through a vehicle looking for a socket-sized device?


I knew when I posted the original article that there would be a lot of rock throwing at the value of locking lugs. I said as much in the OP, but I posted the story because this was clearly a group of prepared thieves...who stole all of the wheels off 18 cars (72 wheels)...and most likely had a large truck, a compressor, pneumatic tools and at least one floor jack...yet they left the vehicle with the locking lugs alone. That is not a debate. That is what happened.

My experience shows the same. In 25 years of driving Jeeps, living in cities and the suburbs, the only time that I had a wheel stolen was a spare that was not locked. It never happened again in the next 20 years with locks. Is my experience typical? Probably not...but it is mine and what I base my decisions on.


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I would not use the mcgard locks on my lawnmower. They are trash.

McGard is trash? Not worth being on a lawn mower? Hmm. While one brand may be better than another, almost anything deters at least a casual thief (and the pros in the original article apparently)...and I had McGard on my TJ for 11 years and never had an issue. Furthermore, another guy who posted in this thread stated that he burned through multiple keys in one session on a Gorilla set...this guy:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/the...ml#post2878672

...so perhaps a dose of reality is in order....as opposed to brand fandom. No doubt, five on one wheel are better than one...but I don't take it to that level. More power to you if you do.


Hey, if you don't want to use them, great. Your choice. I use them...and haven't lost a wheel since I started doing so...and will continue to use them. Yes, I am insured...but I'd rather my wheels be on my Jeep than me on the phone with my insurance agent...discussing deductibles...and looking for a tow...far from home.

Either way, I posted the article for general interest. Only you know what works best for you.

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I don't get this - you say you (or someone who knows what they are doing) can take one off in minutes...but then the first thing that you (or a professional wheel thief) are going to do is smash glass and rifle through a vehicle looking for a thimble sized device?


I knew when I posted the original article that there would be a lot of rock throwing at the value of locking lugs. I said as much in the OP, but I posted the story because this was clearly a group of prepared thieves...who stole all of the wheels off 18 cars (72 wheels)...and most likely had a large truck, a compressor, pneumatic tools and at least one floor jack...yet they left the vehicle with the locking lugs alone. That is not a debate. That is what happened.

My experience shows the same. In 25 years of driving Jeeps, living in cities and the suburbs, the only time that I had a wheel stolen was a spare that was not locked. It never happened again in the next 20 years with locks. Is my experience typical? Probably not...but it is mine and what I base my decisions on.





McGard is garbage? Not worth being on a lawn mower? Hmm. While one brand may be better than another, almost anything deters at least a casual thief (and the pros in the original article apparently)...and I had McGard on my TJ for 11 years and never had an issue. Furthermore, another guy who posted in this thread stated that he burned through multiple keys in one session on a Gorilla set...this guy:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/the...ml#post2878672

...so perhaps a dose of reality is in order....as opposed to brand fandom. No doubt, five on one wheel are better than one...but I don't take it to that level.


Hey, if you don't want to use them, great. Your choice. I use them...and haven't lost a wheel since I started doing so...and will continue to use them. Yes, I am insured...but I'd rather my wheels be on my car than me on the phone with my insurance agent...discussing deductibles...and looking for a tow...far from home.

Either way, I posted the article for general interest. Only you know what works best for you.

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yup. I doubt the professional wheel thief is going to want my stock 16" steel wrangler rims but the mope down the street might want my tires for his beater truck. He probable won't have the ability to defeat even the most basic wheel locks so that is the protection I am after. I just wonder why mcgards say not for use on steel wheels and I wonder if gorillas work on steel wheels?
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I posted this before but this is why I put locking lugs on everything! ....

When I was 21 (or once upon a time a long long time ago) I was working at a grocery store making just over minimum wage. I had an old 69 Camaro that I poured every cent into. I saved up enough money to to put a down payment on a new set of wheels and tires and set the rest up on monthly payments. When I stopped at the tire dealer after work on Friday to pick the car up he told me the wheel locks I ordered with my wheels had not come in yet and I would have to come get them on Monday. Saturday morning I woke up to find my Camaro on blocks in my driveway. My girlfriend would not come near me on the first of the month when my wheel payments came due, she called it my period.
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I don't get this - you say you (or someone who knows what they are doing) can take one off in minutes...but then the first thing that you (or a professional wheel thief) are going to do is smash glass and rifle through a vehicle looking for a socket-sized device?)
Absolutely. Think about it from a thieves perspective. Just because it will only take a few minutes, doesn't mean it's not easier to jimmy your door, break your window, unzip your top, etc. Those wheel lock removal kits work well, but if you're in a driveway you want to be quiet. Getting into a car and checking the glove box or center console is much quieter than banging one of those lock removal sockets on. Getting those locks off in only a few minutes was in a shop environment with air tools, not trying to be stealthy either. I'm sure it would take a few minutes longer if you were trying to rip someone off in their driveway.

That being said, I wasn't trying to discount the purpose wheel locks serve. Fact of the matter is, is it a rare occasion that we get to see the effect of wheels not being stolen because of wheel locks. This article helped show that they can be a deterrent. Who knows how many times someone has scoped out a set of wheels and walked away or found another target? The point I was trying to convey is that no wheel lock is going to offer 100% protection. Before shelling out $50 or more for a set of locks, think about the big picture and whether its worth it to you!
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that is terrible funny...
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I don't use them either. The thief knows that the key has to be in the vehicle somewhere so why invite them to break in and do more damage to your vehicle when they want to steal the wheels?
Damn good point. And since thieves are stupid they will slice the plastic window instead of unzip it. F#%*!@$
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I will pay anyone here $1000 in cash if they can get my s2000 wheels off within 30 minutes, and not alert a person sitting in my house. You can use whatever you want. A welder, vice grips, etc etc etc. If you fail however, you will owe me a new set of wheels. Gorillas are made with a mixture of metals that welds don't stick to. They cannot be vice gripped. You cannot bang a socket onto them. Nothing. They are theft-proof.
Cool. Did not know that it was so techinical
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I recently swapped my 33s for 35s and during the install managed to break 2 of those gorilla keys. Luckily, a nearby PA auto shop had them.. I was surprised since I only thought I would have been able to get them from DTD
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I had the wheels stolen off my car back in '98 and it had locking lugs. I thought about them for the Jeep,but then realized I should also buy a locking gas cap/fuel door, locks for the door hinges, never use the soft top, new hood latches, locks on the A pillar lights... then they could still take whatever they wanted.
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I would not use the mcgard locks on my lawnmower. They are trash.
What do you run on your lawn mower out of curiosity?!
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I wish the dealer at least gave me the normal lugs in place of the locking mopar ones my jeep came with (one per wheel). so I can't even go back unless I buy some new lugs.
Sometimes if you talk to the techs they'll grab some out of their bucket. People don't throw good parts in the garbage very often. Especially steel
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funny.. or not so funny ... I live on an army post and across the street is a building a guy has had his jeep parked in the parking lot for about 2 weeks...looking out my window tonight I noticed his spare is now gone...he is storing it there (on leave or TDY ...but it has been parked there for at least 2 weeks) and I bet a $1.00 that if he had the locking lug nut on the spare it would still be there........not like they took all of them...just the spare, cause it was an easy grab
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funny.. or not so funny ... I live on an army post and across the street is a building a guy has had his jeep parked in the parking lot for about 2 weeks...looking out my window tonight I noticed his spare is now gone...he is storing it there (on leave or TDY ...but it has been parked there for at least 2 weeks) and I bet a $1.00 that if he had the locking lug nut on the spare it would still be there........not like they took all of them...just the spare, cause it was an easy grab
This happened to me in El Paso. As I stated before. Some db soldier actually stole our spare off the jeep and jut expected me to not notice that my wheel was on the back of his jeep that had different tires all together. He didn't bother to use locking lugs so it was really easy for me to reclaim my property.

Not condoning what I had to do to get my sh1t back but. I really wished I had invested in locks sooner.
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This happened to me in El Paso. As I stated before. Some db soldier actually stole our spare off the jeep and jut expected me to not notice that my wheel was on the back of his jeep that had different tires all together. He didn't bother to use locking lugs so it was really easy for me to reclaim my property.

Not condoning what I had to do to get my sh1t back but. I really wished I had invested in locks sooner.

should of took a knife to one of his sidewalls as well...then he really would of been S!@t out of luck!

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