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Old 11-20-2012, 05:46 PM   #121
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Yeah, I think I just found a pic of the chrome ones.

Qtec said they were not security, but it looks like they are. I'm a bit nevous about ordering now...
So would these fit my JKUR spare?

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I think so....
The Gorilla chart, and most of what I've seen shows the JK using the 1/2" thread versions.

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I think so....
The Gorilla chart, and most of what I've seen shows the JK using the 1/2" thread versions.
I'm ordering them for my spare now, I'll let you know if they work.
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I'm ordering them for my spare now, I'll let you know if they work.
yes the spare studs are the same as the wheel studs. I am using the gorilla splined lugs on everything.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:16 PM   #125
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Are the locking ones the bottom ones? (They seem to have some sort of symbol on the top)

I don't get it; if there are splines on the side, then wouldn't that give enough traction to twist them off? How can they be locking?

The point of the McGard locking nuts I have is that they are perfectly cylindrical. You can't take a plumber's adjustable wrench and get a grip on it... The only way to get a grip is to get a strong matching key inserted into the groove on the flat surface on top.
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I don't get it; if there are splines on the side, then wouldn't that give enough traction to twist them off? How can they be locking?

The point of the McGard locking nuts I have is that they are perfectly cylindrical. You can't take a plumber's adjustable wrench and get a grip on it... The only way to get a grip is to get a strong matching key inserted into the groove on the flat surface on top.
because they are designed to be used with wheels like these.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:14 PM   #127
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because they are designed to be used with wheels like these.
Now I get it.. Thanks jadmt!
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:25 PM   #128
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I'm ordering them for my spare now, I'll let you know if they work.
Just received Gorilla part # 71681NBC Acorn Black Chrome and they fit the spare perfectly. This set was $19.99 and came with 4 pieces each 1/2" x 20 lock nuts and the key, perfect for locking just the spare if that is what you are looking for.
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Yeah, I think I just found a pic of the chrome ones.



Qtec said they were not security, but it looks like they are. I'm a bit nevous about ordering now...

Just ordered the black ones from QTec and can confirm that they are indeed a security set. They work as follows: the security socket has 5 splines on the inside, the 5 security nuts are cut with 5 channels and the socket will only go on in one position. The other 18 "non-security" nuts are cut with 6 channels and the socket can be rotated to engage in any position. I have no idea if the socket available on ebay/amazon has 5 or 6 splines. If it has 6 it will only work on the non-security type nuts and would not work on the security nut which only has 5 grooves; if it has 5 splines it would work on either type nut. Make sense?
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^Thanks....
I'm pretty much going with the Gorilla Splines from Q-tec....I have already emailed them to set up free shipping. I'm just now trying to figure out which underseat lockbox to go with..
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:57 AM   #131
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Yep, mine came with locking lugs from the dealer as well...and I assumed that they put them on for their benefit, not mine. ;
My dealer made me very angry. He asked if I wanted to purchase locking lugs and I declined. Come to find out they were already on the Jeep and he knew it. He was just trying to get me to pay for them. And I agree with the above. Grab 5 spares of Rubicons and you have a set of wheels/tires you can get $800-1200.
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Besides the key in the car comment, I would disagree. Sockets do not work on Gorilla locks, period. I am FAR from an amateur when it comes to cars, and when a friend of mine lost his key (when you get a set, you get a sticker with a serial number so if you lose the key they can send you a new one) we were not able to remove the acorn style lugs. The spline drive can probably be broken but these...the originals....



You are not going to get them off in a driveway or a parking lot. These are the only ones I use, and these are the ones I am talking about. All the other fancy ones you may be 100% right. However, unless you are in a fully stocked shop, you are not going to get these things off.

For those that want to try, my offer stands. $1000 cash in your pocket if you can remove them, but if you fail, new wheels since you will hack mine up.

These are what I run on my Jeep, in black, every lug on my TJ including the spare. There are A LOT of meth heads around here that steal everything they can. Luckily They have skipped over my wheels and tires for now. I feel they were a solid purchase...
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Bumping this for a little more clarification.

I'm ready to order a set of Gorilla's from Quadratec. I'm getting the full set. Wheels are the stock '13 Rubicon wheels.

Question 1:
Do I need the spline or acorn style? The Rubi lug holes are not deep, so it looks like the splines may stick out too far, leaving the channels exposed. Can anyone confirm this on stock '13 Rubicon wheels? It looks like the stock lugs are acorn style.

Question 2:
This question will depend on whether I need acorn or spline right now. If I go with acorn for stock wheels, will they work equally on aftermarket wheels with a more recessed lug hole? Or would I require splines at that time?
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I went with the spline style. I'm guessing either one will work as long as they are the correct size.
All I know is that with the spline style, you get a security lug for each wheel...not sure about the acorn versions.

The splines are much thinner than the stock acorns, but also longer as well.....so they will work with aftermarket wheels.

I'll have to look at see how far (if at all) my splines stick out on my stock (2013) Sahara rims.
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I went with the spline style. I'm guessing either one will work as long as they are the correct size.
All I know is that with the spline style, you get a security lug for each wheel...not sure about the acorn versions.

The splines are much thinner than the stock acorns, but also longer as well.....so they will work with aftermarket wheels.

I'll have to look at see how far (if at all) my splines stick out on my stock (2013) Sahara rims.
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I don't remember what this style is called, but these are the locks that I claim are "theft proof." The ones that have the grooves come out all the way to the end seem like they can be taken off if someone has some knowledge and skill.
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Those are the acorn style.
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In looking at pics on qtec, I see the Acorn versions are indeed security as well.


The five on the top row look to have security tops.
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I haven't read all of the posts in this thread, but these are the ones to own.

Gorilla Automotive Products - Lug Nuts, Wheel Locks, Auto Security, Wheel Accessories

The outer sleeve spins, preventing a simple socket to be placed over them and removed. I've had to remove one of these off a BMW in a dealership...took a couple techs an hour to figure out how to remove the first using air hammers, BFH, etc..it's not easy.

I have about $4,000 worth of wheels/tires, these should keep them mine.


I would not buy any other style than the ones with the spinning sleeve..
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In looking at pics on qtec, I see the Acorn versions are indeed security as well.


The five on the top row look to have security tops.
I would order from gorilla directly and get the 20 piece set, so every lug is a lock, not just one per wheel.
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Bumping this for a little more clarification.

I'm ready to order a set of Gorilla's from Quadratec. I'm getting the full set. Wheels are the stock '13 Rubicon wheels.

Question 1:
Do I need the spline or acorn style? The Rubi lug holes are not deep, so it looks like the splines may stick out too far, leaving the channels exposed. Can anyone confirm this on stock '13 Rubicon wheels? It looks like the stock lugs are acorn style.

Question 2:
This question will depend on whether I need acorn or spline right now. If I go with acorn for stock wheels, will they work equally on aftermarket wheels with a more recessed lug hole? Or would I require splines at that time?
Curious if you bought these, and how they worked out for your 2013 Rubicon?

Also how is the color compared to the stock lugs that came with it? I'm bought a JKUR two weeks ago and just now starting to look for locking lugs for it.
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fwiw.. i've broken 2 gorilla key locks
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I didn't buy them but when I picked up my Jeep I just asked the dealership for locking lugs and they said okay we'll put em on for you.
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I've lost 3 locking lug keys. So, I got rid of the front 2, the back 2 are still on and will eventually take them off. The one on my spare, well, if I blow a tire, I'm screwed. Soon all of them will be gone and I'll secure the spare with a combo bike lock.
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So, I had the McGard locking lugs on mine and just broke the key putting my new wheels on. I felt stupid until I was told how common that was. The dealer never gave me the card with the serial number so I was a bit stuck. Went to a dealership and three shops for help. The second shop tried what I did... Pounding socket/removal tool to lug than backing it off. That was useless. The fat part of the locking lug just spins freely. The third shop, a very generous tech took two hours getting four of them off without damaging my wheels. Had to split the lugs to get them off. He suggested gorilla lugs because most tire places/shops carry removal tools for those which confirmed what I was told at two previous shops. Upside is I think I found a new shop to take care of my jeep. I won't put locking lugs on my wheels again, but will find one for the spare because of how easy it is to steal and doesn't require as much torque.
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My Jeep Dealer has a set of special sockets with teeth that you drive on with a hammer. The socket is tapered and crushes that ring allowing the teeth to bite into the body of the lug.
If you go in the mud at all the McGared locks get full of mud and must be cleaned out really well. Gorilla lugs are best.
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I don't really see a need unless your Wrangler sets out at night unsecured.
Mine is in my garage at night, but it is occasionally at a shopping maul so I did install them on the spare tire, because it is just to easy to steel!
Discount Tire installed them on my spare at no charge!
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My Jeep Dealer has a set of special sockets with teeth that you drive on with a hammer. The socket is tapered and crushes that ring allowing the teeth to bite into the body of the lug.
If you go in the mud at all the McGared locks get full of mud and must be cleaned out really well. Gorilla lugs are best.
Not my dealership. They offered no help. Wish I went to yours!
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I have the locks on all of my wheels, but the problem is that I have lost the tool to remove them. I guess if I don't get a flat tire then it really doesn't matter.
Since I am running 8 ply tires on my, it's not a issue!
Discount tire said that they can cut them off if needed.
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I have the locks on all of my wheels, but the problem is that I have lost the tool to remove them. I guess if I don't get a flat tire then it really doesn't matter.
Since I am running 8 ply tires on my, it's not a issue!
Discount tire said that they can cut them off if needed.

You can do it yourself with the right socket and some time. No need to go to pros:



But after you do five, you'll realize that it is actually a pain in the butt....especially getting the nut out of the socket each time.
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You can do it yourself with the right socket and some time. No need to go to pros:



But after you do five, you'll realize that it is actually a pain in the butt....especially getting the nut out of the socket each time.
This only works on mcgard locks (the ones dealers provide) and you can see it in the videos. Gorillas ( ones I talked about earlier) wont let a socket sit on them.

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