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Old 06-09-2011, 09:54 AM   #1
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Thoughts on my first Jeep Wrangler

Hello All,

Thought I would post a few thoughts on my new 2011 JK now that Ive had it for a few months...

Problems Ive noticed:

1. The clock is a POS - runs behind. I synch it with my Ironman watch (which is flawless and always synched to other times such as my cell phone) and about 4 weeks later it is behind about 5-6 minutes. I have to keep readjusting it - not sure if this is worth a warranty look? I reset it last week and its about 90 sec behind again...

2. The back seat is a super poor design. I'll try to explain. If I fold the back seat down (not UP toward the front seats) it disengages. I did this once and the first time I hit the brakes the back seat came flying up and hit the front seats. Also - when I fold the back seat UP toward the front seats there is no way (that I know of) to secure the back seat in place (folded up) Am I missing something here? Most of the time I just leave the seat out...

Im still struggling with a soft top option (if youve seen my previous posts) and have pretty much given up on it for now. I think what Im going to end up doing is some sort of bikini top with a Tuffy security deck. There are a lot of good soft top solutions but Im really concerned about security as I often have a lot of expensive climbing and camping gear in my Jeep...

Im still working out the gas tank capacity - Ive run it down - low gas light seems to come on at about 50 miles remaining - then at about 30 miles remaining it just says something about "get gas soon" or whatever. The tank is supposed to be 18.5 gallons but Ive run that sucker down as far as I feel comfortable (thinking I should be about to run out of gas) and I can still only put about 16 gallons in it...are they just idiot proofing this? Ive run it down to where it should be (according to the computer) just about empty - could I really have like 50 miles left on the tank? (I'm getting about 22MPG)

Otherwise - I am loving this Jeep - fun and easy to drive - am looking forward to some mods soon

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Old 06-09-2011, 10:04 AM   #2
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I've never owned a car radio that kept perfect time, but I never rely on that for time anyway.

The rear seat isn't meant to have a 2 position folding option. Either upright or folded all the way against the front seats. Mine stays rock steady when I fold it up and out of the way. I still can't understand why anyone would want to just fold it down when you get so much usable space with it either up or out completely.

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Old 06-09-2011, 10:23 AM   #3
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I usually leave it out to get the most usable space so you are correct there. It just seemed like an oversight on design that it wont stay in place when folded down...not a huge deal - just a thought
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:39 AM   #4
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The radio sucks . Agreed. I keep a small bungee to keep the back seat up . That way if you lay your windows down back there , you don't have to worry about the seat smashing em when you accelerate
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:52 AM   #5
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Jeep07's solution is a good one for the seat... The clocks are notorious for not keeping time, ours in our Charger never kept time either... Gas is making it as idiot proof as possible, shouldn't run it that low anyway, keeps the crap outta the filter. And the top is easy... Watch some videos on youtube to learn how to do it properly and you'll be a pro in no time...
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:07 AM   #6
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I also keep a 1 foot bungee cord with the small metal hooks on the end to keep the seat from falling back when accellerating. Some times when I put the seat back in normal position it doesn't catch, I just pull it back with about the same force that it takes to close the tailgate and it latches. I've found to check it everytime I fold it forward or back.
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:16 AM   #7
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Thanks guys - yeah bungee seems easy enough - guess my expectations are just too damn high...

I don't normally run down my tank down that far but I like to know exactly where I stand - especially when Im out on long trail trips (like in Utah) - even carrying extra gas I like to know exactly where I am on gas
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I have come to terms with my clock. I know it is lying to me so I ignore it. It's about 12 minutes off now, I just assume that I have 12 extra minutes of pleasurable driving before I have to park him.

I have also come to terms with my Low Fuel meter. It's probably not lying to me, but I just assumed they put a fuel guage on the dash for a reason, so I make a mental note when it "dings" at me to fuel up.

Bungee cord for the back seat works great, although at first I thought the seat was part of the soft-top packing that filled up my new ride so I pulled it out and stuck it in my garage. Been there ever since. Looks better in my garage than in my rig.

Try not to fight the soft top either going up or coming down. Sometimes I struggle a bit getting it to latch onto the door surrounds, but once one side is in, it's easy going from there.
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:26 PM   #9
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As for the gas, what I've found is that the listed capacity isn't necessarily what the tank itself will hold, but the whole fuel system. I could be wrong though, but thats what I've always heard. When the light dings, get gas. Its really that simple.
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:35 PM   #10
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re: "lso - when I fold the back seat UP toward the front seats there is no way (that I know of) to secure the back seat in place (folded up) Am I missing something here?"

When I reinstalled my 08 JK rear seat, it did that until I figured out how to install it correctly.

Make sure the front locking brackets are on the SECOND pair of floor brackets. The front pair are what the seat rests on when folded forward.

If you aren't properly locked on the second bracket set, the rear latches also will not lock properly.

And guess what else? The seat will not fold and lock into folded up position properly either.

At least that's what happened to mine.

Recheck your rear seat locking mechanisms to insure they are hooked right. And the rear locking clamps along with the whole seat will slide forward about an inch clicking into place solidly when positioned properly.

I was getting frustrated with mine, but saw on the forum it wasn't much of an issue with many, so I figured I had done something wrong. That was the case, and it has since stayed firmly locked in either position.
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The clock is a "Chrysler" thing, not a "Jeep" thing.

My wife got a 2010 Liberty as a fleet vehicle about a year ago, has the same radio my JKU has. It never kept time, either.

The 2007 Dodge Caravan that was replaced by the Liberty had the exact same issue.
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:04 PM   #12
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My clock on the nav system is perfect!!!!...just enjoy the dam thing!!!!

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