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Old 09-26-2013, 02:04 PM   #1
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Tire and rim pros... I need advice!

So my 2011 Wrangler Sport that I just got "used" has the stock 16 inch rims on it and I ahve a few questions.

1) I would like to get black rims, or maybe even get my current set powdercoated Black.... about how much does powder coating cost? or is is even suggested over just buying black rims?

2) I want to get some bigger tires... I still have to use my jeep as a every day commuting car, so I cant go to big, any suggestions?

3) If I stay with the stock rims (powdercoated) how big of a tire would you reccomend and about how much do they cost?

Any ideas or suggestions would be great... I am kinda at a lose when it comes to tires and rims. I just know I want black... thanks again!

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Based on your post, I'd say get 15" wheels and 33s. It actually can come out cheaper than getting 16" tires. Trust me, been there, done that.

Keep in mind you will likely need some lift depending on the tire size you decide on.

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Can't really help you with #2 and #3, but #1 I'd save your money and buy a few cans of PlastiDip and spray your wheels. Powder coating is great, but Plastidip is the way to go for less money and the ability to change it back if you ever want to.
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Can't really help you with #2 and #3, but #1 I'd save your money and buy a few cans of PlastiDip and spray your wheels. Powder coating is great, but Plastidip is the way to go for less money and the ability to change it back if you ever want to.

Forgive my ignorace, but do you just take the tire off and spray them?
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I would like for it to look like a jeep. I want bigger tires, but nothing that will eat my milage up and nothing that I would just waste... as you can tell I know nothing about tires and rims... but something that looks good.

Anybody know the size of the tires on a stock jeep, and how much bigger a 33 inch tire would be? ir what is undera 33 inch? 32? 30?
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Forgive my ignorace, but do you just take the tire off and spray them?
You don't have to take the tire off the rim. Just stick index cards in the bead(where the tire and rim touch) and then spray. It's kind of like using masking tape but better and easier. And you can reuse the cards on all the wheels

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I would like for it to look like a jeep. I want bigger tires, but nothing that will eat my milage up and nothing that I would just waste... as you can tell I know nothing about tires and rims... but something that looks good.

Anybody know the size of the tires on a stock jeep, and how much bigger a 33 inch tire would be? ir what is undera 33 inch? 32? 30?
Provided the previous owner didnt change the tire size, you have 225/75/16 tires. Those are about 29". Most jeeps come stock with 255/75/17 which is a 32" tire. You could do a skinny 33 or a fatter 33 if you want 33's. a skinny 33 would be 285/75/16 and a fat is 305/70/16 which are ~10.5" and ~12.5" wide respectively but both 33" tall. A 33" tall tire will be 4" bigger so about 2" more filled into the wheel well

15's is a good suggestion because the wheels and usually the tires too are lighter which would help you get better mpg. The downside is, sometimes the rims and tires costs a bit more initially but usually not much.
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I would like for it to look like a jeep. I want bigger tires, but nothing that will eat my milage up and nothing that I would just waste... as you can tell I know nothing about tires and rims... but something that looks good.

Anybody know the size of the tires on a stock jeep, and how much bigger a 33 inch tire would be? ir what is undera 33 inch? 32? 30?
If you have the 16" steel wheels your tire height is around 29-30" I believe, if you have the optional 17" alloys they're around 31-32"... You can buy 15" rims for about $90 a piece and 33x12.5r15 for under $200 a piece... The most common combo here is 33x12.5r15 duratracs on 15" mb72 or level 8 trackers... The combos are light, inexpensive and completely change the look of your Jeep... Discount tire direct is an awesome place to deal with when you're ready to buy
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You don't have to take the tire off the rim. Just stick index cards in the bead(where the tire and rim touch) and then spray. It's kind of like using masking tape but better and easier. And you can reuse the cards on all the wheels



Provided the previous owner didnt change the tire size, you have 225/75/16 tires. Those are about 29". Most jeeps come stock with 255/75/17 which is a 32" tire. You could do a skinny 33 or a fatter 33 if you want 33's. a skinny 33 would be 285/75/16 and a fat is 305/70/16 which are ~10.5" and ~12.5" wide respectively but both 33" tall. A 33" tall tire will be 4" bigger so about 2" more filled into the wheel well

15's is a good suggestion because the wheels and usually the tires too are lighter which would help you get better mpg. The downside is, sometimes the rims and tires costs a bit more initially but usually not much.

So for the plastidip...
1. Where can I buy it at?
2. How many cans would I need?
3. You spray lugnuts and stem?
4. How easy is it to get off?

Thanks for the help!
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Check out this link. I am looking to get my 2014 17's done in Anthracite Grey. Thinking it would look hot on my Black JK until I can spring for new wheels

https://www.dipyourcar.com/true-metallics-info.html
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So for the plastidip...
1. Where can I buy it at?
2. How many cans would I need?
3. You spray lugnuts and stem?
4. How easy is it to get off?

Thanks for the help!
1.Online Cheaper or at Home Depot ~$8/can at HD
2.1 Can per wheel/i've done several sets
3.You can, but I'd recommend taping with painters tape, and take them off if you can. You can spray the tire and peel it quickly after, deflate the tire, or use credit cards to create a barrier. Don't use tape, the plastidip will create a membrane and you won't be able to break it.
4. Very easy, peals off like a sunburn.Watch the video's there tons on youtube. People have done entire cars.
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Last month I was in the same situation you are facing with the stock wheels. My solution was to keep the 16" rim and add 265/75r16 tires. This is a 31.6" wheel combo up from the stock 29" wheel. My out the door price was $895 for five firestone destination A/T tires mounted, lifetime balance, and road hazard warranty and tax.

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Old 09-26-2013, 03:14 PM   #12
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So my 2011 Wrangler Sport that I just got "used" has the stock 16 inch rims on it and I ahve a few questions.

1) I would like to get black rims, or maybe even get my current set powdercoated Black.... about how much does powder coating cost? or is is even suggested over just buying black rims?

2) I want to get some bigger tires... I still have to use my jeep as a every day commuting car, so I cant go to big, any suggestions?

3) If I stay with the stock rims (powdercoated) how big of a tire would you reccomend and about how much do they cost?

Any ideas or suggestions would be great... I am kinda at a lose when it comes to tires and rims. I just know I want black... thanks again!
I would not recommend powder coating or painting the stock wheels. In the end the expense will run more than a new wheel. When calculating cost you need to figure in the cost of materials and time ... Example: You spend $5 on a can of paint PLUS 6 hours of scrubbing brake dust, cleaning overspray off your driveway PLUS dinner for your girlfriend to make up for spending all day Saturday in the driveway. Paying someone to powder coat stock wheels just isn't cost effective and I don't think you will be happy in the long run.

That said, you've got a number of variables here. You want to use your Jeep as a daily driver - Why do you want larger tires?

I would recommend staying with STOCK wheel and tire combinations - Stock meaning what Jeep puts on any of the Wranglers from Sport to Rubicon.

I would recommend AGAINST putting a 15" wheel on a Jeep that was designed with a 16" wheel in mind. You need a 5 on 5 bolt pattern and I don't believe there are many options (if any) for 15" wheels with a 5 on 5 bolt pattern AND an appropriate back spacing.

You're looking for a recommendation ... I'd need a budget before I can give you a solid recommendation ... really the bigger you go the more you spend. It's never just wheels, or just tires... Always more to spend.

My recommendations:

Option 1: Search Craig's List and find a Jeeper that's selling out of his aluminum sport wheels and tires. You can find deals on 5 wheels and tires mounted for under $500 depending on the style wheel and tire. Going this route you can be certain the rim will fit your Jeep. You still run the risk of rubbing depending on the tire size, your jeep's suspension, etc.

Option 2: Aftermarket Steel Wheels, about $80 a piece. Go with a 16x8 and a 255/70-17. This is a 31" tire ... slightly larger than the stock 225 you're running now. You will maintain highway drivability. Depending on the tire you select, you can dramatically improve off-road performance. The wheels will tuck under the fenders so you don't have to worry about clearance issues or slinging mud. Most likely you will not need to level, lift or modify your suspension. Worth noting here is an aluminum wheel will run about $40 more each ... $120 per wheel shipped for a 16x8 with 4.5" back space. Upside here is if you decide to go bigger down the road, your wheels can accommodate a slightly larger tire. Tire cost can vary from $80 per tire for an all season radial to $250 per tire for a mud terrain.

Option 3: Buy the cheapest rim and biggest tire you can afford. Mount them by hand and go wheelin' as hard as you can. Whatever rubs will most likely break off.

Seriously ... Jeep + Daily Driver = CONSERVATIVE

JEEP = 'J' UST - 'E' MPTY - 'E' VERY - 'P' OCKET

I can help you spend as much money as you want ... but I think you're trying to save money, make your Jeep look cool and enjoy your ride to work. Option 1 is the best way to achieve a new look without breaking the bank. Option 2 costs more money and looks much cooler.

Hope this helps!
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If you have the 16" steel wheels your tire height is around 29-30" I believe, if you have the optional 17" alloys they're around 31-32"... You can buy 15" rims for about $90 a piece and 33x12.5r15 for under $200 a piece... The most common combo here is 33x12.5r15 duratracs on 15" mb72 or level 8 trackers... The combos are light, inexpensive and completely change the look of your Jeep... Discount tire direct is an awesome place to deal with when you're ready to buy
15" steel wheels with a 5 on 5 bolt pattern? Back space? JK was designed for a 16" and up wheel.

33x12.50-15 will rub on a sport ... you're getting into leveling or lifting and fooling with steering knuckle stops and/or wheel spacers.

A pizza cutter tire like this will kill fuel economy and depending on gearing will make for a miserable ride.

This size tire you need a minimum of 3.73 gears, 4.10 even better.

Tire & Gear Ratio Chart at Morris 4x4 Center
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15" steel wheels with a 5 on 5 bolt pattern? Back space? JK was designed for a 16" and up wheel.

33x12.50-15 will rub on a sport ... you're getting into leveling or lifting and fooling with steering knuckle stops and/or wheel spacers.

A pizza cutter tire like this will kill fuel economy and depending on gearing will make for a miserable ride.

This size tire you need a minimum of 3.73 gears, 4.10 even better.

Tire & Gear Ratio Chart at Morris 4x4 Center
There are actually quite a few alloy 15's that fit, discount tire direct can list them out for you just talk to Matt on this forum. 33x12.5 15 is hardly what you'd call a pizza cutter tire, do you even know what that term means!? And yes they will rub the fenders when offroad, but I drove mine for a month with zero lift and it never rubbed while daily driving, a leveling kit is only $150. Also the combo I suggested is very lightweight and would be ok even with 3.21 gears heck the 33" duratracs actually only measure 31.5-32" when mounted so power loss would be very small. For the price difference id say that few hundred dollars to go to 33's on 15" wheels is more than worth it, but that's just my opinion

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