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Old 06-25-2013, 06:53 PM
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Tire rotation

I was planning on rotating all 5 tires at 6000 miles, but time has gotten away from me, so I'm now at 9000 miles. Is there a concern about rotating 5 tires that have 9000 miles on 4 of them and 0 on the other one? I was thinking the wear difference may be a problem. Any feedback is appreciated.

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I was planning on rotating all 5 tires at 6000 miles, but time has gotten away from me, so I'm now at 9000 miles. Is there a concern about rotating 5 tires that have 9000 miles on 4 of them and 0 on the other one? I was thinking the wear difference may be a problem. Any feedback is appreciated.

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I'd just do the regular 5 tire rotatin and not worry about it.

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Oooh. Bit much for miles. I would not try it with that much difference in tread depth.
Chrysler recommends rotating at 8k, I think you'll be fine at 9k.
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I should have made this a survey. I'm worried about the extra 3k in miles as well. No offense Bourget117 but Kjeeper10 with 24,000 posts wins out. Thank you both.
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I was planning on rotating all 5 tires at 6000 miles, but time has gotten away from me, so I'm now at 9000 miles. Is there a concern about rotating 5 tires that have 9000 miles on 4 of them and 0 on the other one? I was thinking the wear difference may be a problem. Any feedback is appreciated.

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You won't have a problem putting the spare into the rotation now.
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Chrysler recommends rotating at 8k, I think you'll be fine at 9k.
Is this for all models ?

Mud tires are known to need more frequent balancing to prevent cupping/uneven wear.

OP ... Any tire shop will have a gauge and be able to read the tread depth. Alignment/driving conditions/psi all have a affect on tire wear.
Won't hurt to have somebody check them out. If ok, rotate the spare in.
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Called DTD where I got them from. They stated to measure the tread depth and if it's close no worries as long as the new spare goes in the rear. Now where did I put that tread gauge?

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Is this for all models ?
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The owner's manual 8,000 mile rotation recommendation also says to rotate sooner if there is any sign of uneven wear.

And, I'll bet they are talking about a 4-tire rotation - whole different animal than rotating in a new spare with 9,000 mile tires.

But, if the tires aren't abnormally worn - I wouldn't hesitate to rotate the spare in. Heck, I thought I had blown it when I noticed I'd gone 5.7K miles since rotating when my plan was every 4 to 5k......
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Put your unused spare on the right rear and burn some rubber to bring it down if you're worried about rotation speeds. unless you're differentials are locked, you're not straining anything. Differentials are meant to accommodate different axle rotation speeds. That's where they got the name, Your .0001% difference won't matter.
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DTD also mentioned a 5 tire is more like 5k between rotates. It seemed to be a big enough difference between the tires so I did a 4 tire rotation. I guess I'll go to 37's sooner.

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Rubicon tires are known to need more frequent rotations

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Is this for all models ?

Mud tires are known to need more frequent balancing to prevent cupping/uneven wear.

OP ... Any tire shop will have a gauge and be able to read the tread depth. Alignment/driving conditions/psi all have a affect on tire wear.
Won't hurt to have somebody check them out. If ok, rotate the spare in.
Whoops! Somehow we found ourselves at 14k and no rotations. Recently developed some pretty major cupping on the front tires. The dealer said, "Hey you gotta rotate those tires!" Funny they never mentioned it when we brought the car in previous times. I guess we got too busy...we'll pay attention now!
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I ran into this with my JKUR. I bought it used with 19k on the clock, and it was obvious the PO never rotated the tires. And I wanted to rotate the spare in. I looked at this situation as a "correction" rotation so I ignored typical rotation practices and did it my way.

The tires had uneven wear in that the leading edge of the tread lug was worn more than the trailing edge. My first objective was to reverse the tire direction to correct for that. My next objective was to measure all the tires' tread depth and pair, as close as possible, tires with the same wear and put them on the same axle. The differentials will compensate for a couple, even a few 32nds, but not much more. Then, as my final objective, I wanted to rotate from steer axle to drive axle. Needless to say this required measuring and plotting to meet all objectives in the above order. It can be done with some planning.

The tire with the most wear (came off the right rear) is now the spare. Now that it's time to rotate again (4k since the initial rotation), I will do this again with the objective to get all tires close in wear. I haven't measured yet, but the spare may need to sit this rotation out again. Again, I'm in "correction mode" at this point and may need to do it my way once more to get where I need to be. Then I can go with normal practices with subsequent rotations. Hope that helps...

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I don't know if it is ever really too late. If you have 10,000 miles on your tires and you get something that shreds one of your tires....no one would hesitate to buy a new tire and run it...especially on a vehicle without a full size spare.
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I don't know if it is ever really too late. If you have 10,000 miles on your tires and you get something that shreds one of your tires....no one would hesitate to buy a new tire and run it...especially on a vehicle without a full size spare.
that was my thought exactly.
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I don't know if it is ever really too late. If you have 10,000 miles on your tires and you get something that shreds one of your tires....no one would hesitate to buy a new tire and run it...especially on a vehicle without a full size spare.
Absolutely, have done it a few times with no problems. As long as the tires are properly balanced and there are no alignment problems, it's a non issue.
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I had the BFG KM's on a Silverado and never rotated them. They lasted a good 40k miles, never cupped or hummed. I probably just got lucky. If you are going to rotate them yourself or you get it done for free or nearly free, I say go ahead and rotate. Otherwise, I am not sure it is cost-effective.
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Five tire rotation at 13000km. Had a tire shop check tread depth and for any signs of unusual wear first and give a recommendation, they said do it. Had my mechanic do the rotation shortly after.
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DTD also mentioned a 5 tire is more like 5k between rotates. It seemed to be a big enough difference between the tires so I did a 4 tire rotation. I guess I'll go to 37's sooner.

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Depends on what tire you have. You should do 3,000 for a mud terrain also according to Discount Tire. If you didn't already, but the lifetime rotation and balance for $60 (or whatever they charge for it now). Higher miles are ok for less aggressive tires.
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Whoops! Somehow we found ourselves at 14k and no rotations. Recently developed some pretty major cupping on the front tires. The dealer said, "Hey you gotta rotate those tires!" Funny they never mentioned it when we brought the car in previous times. I guess we got too busy...we'll pay attention now!
The dealer does 15, 30 (or whatever number) Point inspections at each service. They should have told you LONG AGO! I'd be speaking to the service writer or service manager about this oversight ASAP. Although it is in your manual. So some responsibility lies on you.
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I had the BFG KM's on a Silverado and never rotated them. They lasted a good 40k miles, never cupped or hummed. I probably just got lucky. If you are going to rotate them yourself or you get it done for free or nearly free, I say go ahead and rotate. Otherwise, I am not sure it is cost-effective.
You've got to be kidding!

Worst advice ever! That said, Discount Tire does lifetime rotation and balance for around $60. Maybe that's what you meant by next to nothing?
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You've got to be kidding!

Worst advice ever! That said, Discount Tire does lifetime rotation and balance for around $60. Maybe that's what you meant by next to nothing?
That was exactly my experience - I was working 70 hour weeks, rotating my tires wasn't high on my priority list, I got 40k of even wear out of my 255/75/17 BFG KM's on a regular cab Silverado. That's what happened, that's what I posted. Rotating them would have done me no good whatsoever.

For 60 bucks, if you make the effort to get your tires rotated, yeah - it's probably worth it. But there are plenty of people that get away without rotating mud tires and do fine - at least the smaller tires like 32's.
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That was exactly my experience - I was working 70 hour weeks, rotating my tires wasn't high on my priority list, I got 40k of even wear out of my 255/75/17 BFG KM's on a regular cab Silverado. That's what happened, that's what I posted. Rotating them would have done me no good whatsoever.

For 60 bucks, if you make the effort to get your tires rotated, yeah - it's probably worth it. But there are plenty of people that get away without rotating mud tires and do fine - at least the smaller tires like 32's.
Dang. That is a lot of work time! Not questioning your experience at all or trying to offend you personally, just the suggestion to not rotate at all. So no personal offense intended.
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So what is the proper rotation of 5 tires?
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Dang. That is a lot of work time! Not questioning your experience at all or trying to offend you personally, just the suggestion to not rotate at all. So no personal offense intended.
No worries. Yeah, I am not saying rotating your tires is a bad thing. But I probably wouldn't pay $20 or $25 bucks every 5000 miles for it, especially with stock tire sizes.
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So what is the proper rotation of 5 tires?
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Thanks for that Elmwood.
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No worries. Yeah, I am not saying rotating your tires is a bad thing. But I probably wouldn't pay $20 or $25 bucks every 5000 miles for it, especially with stock tire sizes.
I have lifetime tire rotation/balancing from DT, but even if I didn't, I'd pay $25 every 5000 miles to ensure more even wear and extend my tires another 10,000-15,000 miles by rotating the 5th tire in, even with stock tires. With an appointment it takes 25-30 minutes, less time than to do my oil changes. You didn't skip your oil changes also, did you?
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I have lifetime tire rotation/balancing from DT, but even if I didn't, I'd pay $25 every 5000 miles to ensure more even wear and extend my tires another 10,000-15,000 miles by rotating the 5th tire in, even with stock tires. With an appointment it takes 25-30 minutes, less time than to do my oil changes. You didn't skip your oil changes also, did you?
Never considered skipping oil changes - not sure what your point is. If the implication is that I am generally sloppy about maintenance, you are way off base.

I don't know why you'd think if your alignment, suspension, balance, and tire pressure are good you think you'd get that much more mileage out of a set of KM's. I had perfectly even wear on my KM's after 40k miles, they still had plenty of tread left but I wanted new tires. Never rotated them once. I seriously doubt rotating them would have gotten me any more mileage at all, much less 15000 miles!!!

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