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Old 12-05-2009, 09:41 PM   #1
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Tires, lifts, and purpose

Evenin' all,

I know these topics have been beaten to death, but my searches produced dated information ...and this is my first Jeep in 10 years. My Jeep overview is below. This is my everyday vehicle, but I've been through off-road training courses (though haven't had much practice time since) and am looking forward to having some fun. I'm thinking a 2" lift and I'm partial to BFG tires. I currently have 17" rims. So:

What are some opinions about lifts? With or without shocks ...or after market shocks? Budget vs high price? Should I go bigger than 2"?

What would be the biggest tires I could put on stock (no lift) before I have rub issues?

Opinions on BFG tire types (keeping in mind I'm predominant pavement bound)?

I'm sure I'll have more questions ...so many thanks in advance.

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Old 12-05-2009, 10:23 PM   #2
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Watch yourself when lifting too much, or when adding too large a tire. You'll find out later, that you'll need Upgraded Gearing to move those big Rubber Plants on your Wheels. Others have found this out, after they've dried up the Money Tree, and were left with insufficient Gearing to move their Rig.

Find out what Gearing you have now, and do a Lift and Tire Size Increase, compatible with that Gearing, to make sure it'll be driveable when you're through.

FWIW, I have 17" Wheels, 32" Tires (255/75R/17), and the Upgraded 3.73 Gears. This combo works great for me as a DD, and I don't have a Lift (don't plan on getting one either...).

Best of Luck!

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Old 12-05-2009, 10:25 PM   #3
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Will this be a DD for you? How much do you plan on going offroad?
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:48 PM   #4
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Blackbeard --I don't have the upgraded gears. Mine are 3.21. I'm not necessarily sold on a lift if I can go with bigger tires only.

RatherB --Not as much as I'd like. The occasional weekend right now. And nothing really wild as my life (job/kids) only allows me so much time.

I'm going for looks as well as function.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:54 AM   #5
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Blackbeard --I don't have the upgraded gears. Mine are 3.21. I'm not necessarily sold on a lift if I can go with bigger tires only.
Hmmmm! When I bought my X 2-Dr, it had the 24S Package, which Upgraded the Wheels/Tires to 17", vice the Stock 16". Additionally, the other part of the 24S Package was Upgrading the Stock 3.21 Gears with the 3.73 Gears. I'm assuming, that the larger Gears were Upgraded to coincide with the larger Wheels/Tires being added, to facilitate a normal ride, rather than one that may be underpowered/undergeared with the additional Wheel/Tire weight.

May want to check with the Dealer, or with a Tire Shop, to see what they recommend.

Best of Luck!

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Old 12-06-2009, 05:35 AM   #6
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For what your describing, I'd keep it stock...
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:12 AM   #7
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Blackbeard --many thanks for the additional. What you wrote makes sense ...I was just going by what the sticker said, and there was no mention on the S package upgrade. I'll check with the dealer.

Hilldweller --I may end up doing that for the time being. See how much offroad I'm able to do and how much all the other bells and whistles I'm looking at are going to cost.

Regardless ...it's going to be a fun ride.

Thanks again...
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:58 PM   #8
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It is all about the look. Much can be accomplished without a lift (saving $$ that can be spent on other stuff).
I went to local Tire Shop (Tire Factory) and they helped me select the wheel and tire combo that worked best for look and size.
They made sure the wheel offset and max size were correct. I got 20 inch wheels with P275 x55R20.
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:18 AM   #9
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I don't need/have a lift yet:


I do have springs installed from an Unlimited w/tow package though to assist towing and offset the weight of bumpers and winch.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:39 AM   #10
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you can go 33" tires with no lift for mild wheeling, but if you have the 3.21 gears... i wouldnt go any taller than stock. if you get the 33's and dont like the ride, you can always add a small lift like a 2" and shouldnt have any problems. the JK only need 3.5 of lift to cover and flex 35's with plenty of clearance,

for your application, i wouldnt go over 33"
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:34 PM   #11
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Thanks all ...I've got my plan ...and a man with a plan is a dangerous thing.

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