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Old 01-19-2013, 11:46 PM   #1
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TJ owners who have traded up to JK models

I've read several comments on the TJ site of owners who "traded up" to JKs and have returned to the TJ due to issues with the JKs. Many JK owners seem to be new Jeep owners (as am I). How many of you owned LJ or TJ models and are happy you moved up to the JK? What is the biggest improvement you've noted? Thanks for the info.

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I've read several comments on the TJ site of owners who "traded up" to JKs and have returned to the TJ due to issues with the JKs. Many JK owners seem to be new Jeep owners (as am I). How many of you owned LJ or TJ models and are happy you moved up to the JK? What is the biggest improvement you've noted? Thanks for the info.
I really like my new JKU. I traded my Jeep 4 years ago and had 5 other vehicles in between and now my sixth is the JKU. So far, three week in, my JKU seems very well put together as was my TJ Rubicon. I really enjoy the extra space and the better mpg. I have no idea which is better, but for my current needs the JKU is better suited.

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:08 AM   #3
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I traded up also and love my JK. I loved my TJ, but I get more power and better mileage out my JKU. The JKU is also a smoother ride, I loved the bounce the TJ gave but as I have to do more and more highway driving, I prefer the JKU now. They are very different animals and I love them both for different reasons and if I were able to, I would have kept both.

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:18 AM   #4
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I had a '97 before getting a '08 2dr sahara. Absolutely loved the change. Tj's are really much more simple vehicles and because of that some may argue are more true to the jeep heritage but times have changed and progress lets you still have a jeep and be up to par with the modern standards of other vehicles. For me, i appreciated the 11 years of improvements and modern conveniences going from one to the other. My TJ was a 4 cylinder 2dr w/ 30" all-terrain tires, my jk was a 6 cyl 2dr w/ 3.73 rear end and that thing felt like a corvette by comparison. Loved the interior too. Driving the tj after i got my jk felt something like driving a wagon with seats strapped to it. I put 100k miles on my tj and it was holding strong when i sold it. Only put 20k miles on my '08 before i realized i needed more space and traded in for an unlimited. I had no issues with it other than the paint bubbling up on the hinges. Never looked back.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:23 AM   #5
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I had an 05 Rubicon, and as said above, the ride in this JK is so much smoother. I love it. I loved the Rubi aswell, but I like the engine upgrade alot.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:29 AM   #6
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TJ for 11 years. Replaced with a JKR this past Labor Day. Trade back? No thanks.

JKR has a much better engine...and with 4.10 axle ratio and the new 5 speed auto trans (my first auto trans ever), it is awesome to drive. Luxury features are also also off the charts compared to my TJ.

My biggest complaint - rear access. It sucks. The TJ's passenger seat tipped all the way into the dash...and a large man could easily climb in and out of the back.

Even with the JKR's passenger seat tilted/tipped all the way forward, there is very little room to gain access to the rear. Making it worse is the floorpan design in the back...with the floor coming straight out from underneath the rear seat for some distance, which really cuts down on the available leg room in the back compared to a TJ. I used to drive with multiple passengers in my TJ all of the time. I consider that a last resort in my JKR now.

Yeah, a lot of people will post and say, "Who cares? I just took my seat out!" I care. I have family and friends.

Still though, my JKR smokes my old TJ in terms of features. Reliability? I'll get back to you in 11 years.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:27 AM   #7
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I bought a 2003 TJ new and modified it to my liking for 10 years. I loved that Jeep. It got totaled receintly and I have a JK on order. I hope I like it as much.
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I had an '06 4.0l 6 speed until December and traded up to a '13 with a 6 speed and my only complaint is that now some of the TJ/YJ/CJ guys seem to not wave. I admit that I was a bit of a snob until I drove one of the new ones, but I always waved. Aside from that, the '13 is leaps and bounds ahead of the TJ in every aspect.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:24 AM   #9
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I had my 94 YJ for 3 years loved it... til I got my 97 TJ. Had it for 4 years and loved it more than my YJ. My family grew and I needed 4 door so I got a 2001 XJ... it did what I need it to and never let me down. Got a 2013 JKUR and it's the best yet. Best ride, more power, quiet, really happy with it so far. That's 19 years driving a Jeep. If the JK gives me any trouble, then I'll go back to my XJ... only because I kept it as a spare Jeep.
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YJ for a few yrs, TJ for 10 and now the JK.

Now I went from a 01 to a just put into production 07 JK. The 12/13's are a new beast.
For me it wasn't the biggest change going from the TJ/Jk itself. Sport to rubicon and 4.10's was.

I would not go back but would love someday to own another as a trail rig.
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Had a CJ3B, YK, TJ and now my 2nd JK. I liked them all.
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Having started with a YJ as MY first OWNED jeep, than progressing to a TJ, (which I kept) and now owning a '12 JK that I bought new in Dec '11, it is a progression. Each is a little better, and depending on circumstances and weather, that determines what I will drive.

It breaks down like this, 90% of the time my TJ , 7% the (wife's) JK, the other 3% is a '13 Chrysler 300.

I wouldn't take the JK off road.
I won't take trips in the TJ unless it is to go wheeling, but drive it every time I go by myself any other time.
I drive the JK when we want topless, and are going, "out of town".
I drive the 300 for church and long road trips.

If I had to have just one...and only one think it would be the TJ.
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75 CJ, 99 TJ, 03 WJ, and now a 12 JK.

I miss each of my Jeeps. They all hold special places in my mind and heart. Would I go back to one of the others???? Not sure that I would. The Jeep I miss the most is the 75. Was my first as a young man and it took me to places that I really enjoyed. I was in the Military on a base in the middle of NOWHERE and the Jeep got me off base and away from it all.

The TJ was my first mid life crisis vehicle. Bought on a whim from a friend. It served me well until I bought the WJ. The WJ I needed for a go anywhere at anytime vehicle while the kids were in college. Many runs to and from colleges with lots of their gear and such. Best SNOW vehicle I've ever had.

I Sold the WJ to my son a couple of years ago. Tried living with a 2010 Camaro and that car while a great looker was lacking for me personally.

Started thinking about a new Jeep and went crazy looking at every combination. JKUR, JKU, JK's.... At one point I almost sold off two cars to get ONE JKUR. I am glad I went home and took the LONG way home. Discussed it with the wife and really thought about MY needs and what I was really going to do with the Jeep.

I wound up with a basic JK Sport S with TWO options, Limited slip diff and 3.73 gears. A very basic and simple Jeep. Would I like some of the amenities of a Sahara or Rubicon.....Sometimes I would. Most times I am very happy with what I have. The JK is much more refined in ride and handling than the CJ or TJ ever were. Much quieter and smoother over all. I LOVE the old straight 6 engines which still is my engine of choice. This new V6 is winning me over though due to its power delivery and efficiency.

Would I go back.....Only for a restoration project which I am actually looking for right now. But it would be a Military M38A1.
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I had a Rocky Mountain edition TJ before. Just got my '13 JKU about 3 weeks ago and I really like the change. The wife and I are about to have our first child so the extra space was the necessity. Doesn't hurt having a little better fuel economy too.

I've also had a Commander and one of the KK Liberty models, but the new JK is easily my favorite Jeep that I've owned.
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I had this 2000 TJ lifted 33" regeared, with a 4 banger in it. I loved it great jeep! Then I started liking how the JKU looked and the new motor and tranny. I was also liking the bigger interior since I have my son and dog i tote around a lot. The wife said just buy one!


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So I did!! And this is mine! I kept the red one but I never drove it anymore because I love this so much. Great horse power, plenty of room. It's just awesome. So I finally sold my TJ :-( , then a few months ago the wife decided she wanted to sell her Honda element.


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And now this is her jeep! We both love them and the only way I'm getting rid of mine is if they come out with a diesel JKU
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Those are two (sorry, three) good looking jeeps. Pretty happy with my TJ and got a great price on it (clean modded 2006 for same price 2000's listed on CL) but occasionally wonder if JKU would have been more practical than having 2 separate vehicles. Of course being practical prevented me from buying a Jeep for the first 15 years I wanted one.
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I had this 2000 TJ lifted 33" regeared, with a 4 banger in it. I loved it great jeep! Then I started liking how the JKU looked and the new motor and tranny. I was also liking the bigger interior since I have my son and dog i tote around a lot. The wife said just buy one!


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So I did!! And this is mine! I kept the red one but I never drove it anymore because I love this so much. Great horse power, plenty of room. It's just awesome. So I finally sold my TJ :-( , then a few months ago the wife decided she wanted to sell her Honda element.


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And now this is her jeep! We both love them and the only way I'm getting rid of mine is if they come out with a diesel JKU
There's one on the cover of the 4WD Catalog that looks just like yours...or could it be...
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I had a Zero Anniversary '03 Rubicon and absolutely loved it. It was an amazing trail rig but wasn't much fun on the pavement. Even with intake and exhaust mods, it was still way underpowered on any uphill grade. But I was ok with that. The only reason I sold it and went with the 2013 was because of the size. With the '03, I could take either my girlfriend or my camera gear with me. I couldn't take both.

I was bummed when the Unlimited came out in 2004. I should have waited. But I obviously could not have known Chrysler was going to build a bigger TJ with the same wheelbase as my Scrambler. I couldn't afford to trade the '03 because I had already spent about $15K in mods. If I had an Unlimited TJ, I doubt that I would be driving a JK now.

For a long time, I called the JK's Foofoo jeeps and swore I would never buy one. I had license plate frames made for my girlfriend's green '08 JKU that read "Sally's Mean Green Foofoo Machine." Well, I'm kinda likin' my foofoo '13 Rubicon now. We call it Noofoo. The interior is cavernous and it has plenty of power. All of the electronic doodads are nice too.

The first time I have to do a trail repair, I may curse my decision to go with the JK. The TJ's were definitely easier to work on...though not as easy as the CJ's. With the complexity of the JK, there is more potential for problems.

There will be trade-offs on the trail...simply because of the longer wheelbase. But after seeing JK's perform on Moab's trails for a few years, I've grown to believe that it will take me wherever I want to go.
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No JK based jokes yet? God this forum is well behaved. It's nice to read something without trolls everywhere.
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No JK based jokes yet? God this forum is well behaved. It's nice to read something without trolls everywhere.
They ARE everywhere, they're just waiting for the most opportune moment to strike.

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There's one on the cover of the 4WD Catalog that looks just like yours...or could it be...
Yes on the cover and on 3 pages of the JK only catalog :-)
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No JK based jokes yet? God this forum is well behaved. It's nice to read something without trolls everywhere.
The TJ owners are all out wheeling...
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I'm still satisfied with my decision to let the TJ and the F150 go and go with a single JKU for my needs. The wife has her car too of course. I just loved the TJ but couldn't haul anything so needed the truck too. And getting the Grandkid in and out of the TJ was a pain... plus the wife getting back there with him too was kind of a bother. And I wasn't really hauling or towing much anymore. Biggest thing is my Golf Cart. And I still have both my smaller trailers so I can haul anything I want. Neither of these trailers weighs over 1000 pounds on its own but the TJ still couldn't handle them loaded so I still had to have the truck either way if I kept the TJ.

So... a JKU was about the only Wrangler could get me to a position where I could do all my things with just one vehicle. And only have one vehicle to pay taxes on, keep insurance on, park under what cover I had and also maintain. And I am actually getting just a tad better gas mileage than either of them got which was not really expected. So... I guess I can live with my decision.

Or I could have stayed as I was I guess. I expect some day here soon I will probably pick up an old small Toyota, Mazda or Ranger Pickup to do some dirty work with. That was in the plan too. Just not a big truck as in the past. I always had real big trucks. Crew Cabs and such. But this time it will be some little beater that I don't rely on or care that much about. Something just to haul trash and bark etc. Things I can do with the trailers I own now for that matter.
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The TJ owners are all out wheeling...
Yeah, I noticed that. I'm kinda late to the thread because I was pulling them all out of the mud.
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Yes on the cover and on 3 pages of the JK only catalog :-)
Can I have your autograph?

Sweet Jeep. I just got the latest 4WD catalogs and it's on one of them, too...or in it. I dunno, I got five catalogs in the mail yesterday, so I dunno what's on the cover of any of'em! I'm feelin' a bit overwhelmed with reading material!
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I just Traded Up from my TJ to a JKU 2 Weeks ago and am Happy.

I got an '07 with pretty much no Miles on it, so I'm not having the Engine Problems people are with the Brand New ones.

The Extra Room is Nice, Rides better, ALOT Quieter.

But it does have some Quirks that I'm in the Process of taking care of. Nothing Major or making me Hate it, just Cosmetic things.
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Can I have your autograph?

Sweet Jeep. I just got the latest 4WD catalogs and it's on one of them, too...or in it. I dunno, I got five catalogs in the mail yesterday, so I dunno what's on the cover of any of'em! I'm feelin' a bit overwhelmed with reading material!
Autograph here you go "my autograph"

More reading material = more mods + more money ;-)
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Have owned XJ's, a ZJ, a TJ, and I was a Jeep tech for 11 years. I have to say that the JK that I currently own is my favorite Jeep of all time. Best of all worlds but I wish it had more power on the street. Can't have everything. I may do the Hemi swap at some point if the prices come down.
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Autograph here you go "my autograph"

More reading material = more mods + more money ;-)
Yeah, it's NUTS! My wife just shook her head. She came home from work and I was like, "HEY, LOOK WHAT I GOT IN THE MAIL TODAY! IT WAS 'DAN'S MAIL DAY!'" She just shook her head and rolled her eyes.
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Had a JK and then went to a TJ and now I'm on day two of owning my second JK. Couldn't afford the payment on the first JK. Got tired of repairing the TJ every weekend with no time or money left over for mods.

Now I feel like I'm driving a mini van and trying to remember how to use cruise control and power windows. Time to ruin the ride with a lift and tires and make this thing ride like a Jeep!

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