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Old 05-29-2011, 08:39 PM   #31
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After five or six years of hanging off the back of the Jeep, are you sure you can trust it when you need it? Will it still hold air, is it dry rotted etc?

I mean, would you buy a tire that was sitting around the shop for five years but is still brand new?[/QUOTE]

Your kidding me....Are you not???.....REALLY?????? Did you really post this??? What you drinking tonight??

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Not buying five new tires means you keep the original spare through two or three sets of tires. Since I get two to three years out of a set of tires, that means a five or six year old spare tire if you never use it.

Even half drunk I can do the math.

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Umm... If you rotate them, it won't be unused. It ends up to be equal to the 4 on the ground.

Bottom line? Do it the way you want and quit asking for validation. I'll do it my my way, you do it your way. Who's right? Who cares?

If I'm going to spend the money for 5 tires and wheels, than every one of them is going to be worn out before I buy the next 5.

If I'm going to spend the money for 35s, then I'm not going to hang a 33 off the back door. That simple.

And I'm going to get the most mileage out of them before I replace them. That means I do a 5 tire rotation.
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Umm... If you rotate them, it won't be unused. It ends up to be equal to the 4 on the ground.

Bottom line? Do it the way you want and quit asking for validation. I'll do it my my way, you do it your way. Who's right? Who cares?

If I'm going to spend the money for 5 tires and wheels, than every one of them is going to be worn out before I buy the next 5.

If I'm going to spend the money for 35s, then I'm not going to hang a 33 off the back door. That simple.

And I'm going to get the most mileage out of them before I replace them. That means I do a 5 tire rotation.
Now that I do agree with.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:55 PM   #35
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I'm kind of stumped on this one. Why would anybody want to buy an extra tire every time they needed new ones. I kind of just treat my spare tire as a spare tire in case I get a flat. If I do get a flat then I'm gonna put the spare on until I get to the tire shop for a repair or new one.I think this idea must of been introduced by tire companies. They sit around thinking hum how can we get people to buy 5 tires for their vehicle every time they need to replace them. Rofl. Do you really think you are saving that much tread life to justify buying an extra tire every time. I'm just sayin.
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If you don't drive very far. Take the spare off. Jeeps are light and don't put much wear on tires. Taking the spare off it can remove some weight.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:20 PM   #38
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Nope.

After five or six years of hanging off the back of the Jeep, are you sure you can trust it when you need it? Will it still hold air, is it dry rotted etc?

I mean, would you buy a tire that was sitting around the shop for five years but is still brand new?
Right after I bought my JEEP I sold my 1998 F150(193000 orign.miles)...Guy wanted to know what spare looked like(Never touched spare). We pulled it down and after 13 years of traveling under the F150.....Looked like it just came off showroom floor...13 YEARS...Dont tell me a few years on back of a JK are going to kill tire. YFOS!!!!!
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I have an 86' Chevy van spare. Still brand new and balanced. But, it was covered up. Like the ones under the rangers and the F150's. They are an exception to dry-rot because they are not in direct sunlight. Thats the killer on the spares hanging without being covered, they get the direct sun on one side only and the sidewall can start to crack apart after just a few years.
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Right after I bought my JEEP I sold my 1998 F150(193000 orign.miles)...Guy wanted to know what spare looked like(Never touched spare). We pulled it down and after 13 years of traveling under the F150.....Looked like it just came off showroom floor...13 YEARS...Dont tell me a few years on back of a JK are going to kill tire. YFOS!!!!!

And that's all well and good, but your spare was suspended under the bed of the F-150. NO sun exposure, what so ever. Why do you think RVers have tire wraps when they are parked 6 months out of the year? Here in FL, our tires get cooked. I had to replace my boat trailers tires twice in 10 years until I learned to shade them.
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I'm kind of stumped on this one. Why would anybody want to buy an extra tire every time they needed new ones. I kind of just treat my spare tire as a spare tire in case I get a flat. If I do get a flat then I'm gonna put the spare on until I get to the tire shop for a repair or new one.I think this idea must of been introduced by tire companies. They sit around thinking hum how can we get people to buy 5 tires for their vehicle every time they need to replace them. Rofl. Do you really think you are saving that much tread life to justify buying an extra tire every time. I'm just sayin.
IM with ya...Makes no sence to change out spare..
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Help us out. Explain the downsides of rotating in the spare.
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Just to let you know I live in the desert, my jeep is 16 years old with the original spare on back and I'd still use it to get me to the tire shop. So spare tires can last decades not just a few years. Seeing that I live in the hottest driest climate in the United States and my spare is still good. I too say yfos.
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Do you really think you are saving that much tread life to justify buying an extra tire every time.
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Yes. I'll buy five tires and use five tires. You'll buy four and use four. But you'll need four new ones about 20% sooner than I need five new ones.

At the end of a ten year period, we will have spent the same amount on tires. The difference would be that mine will always match and be within a few thousand miles of each other in terms of treadwear. Yours will not.

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If I'm going to spend the money for 5 tires and wheels, than every one of them is going to be worn out before I buy the next 5.
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Ok this should be end topic. If you have nothing better to do with your money than buy 5 tires every time you need 4 so you can say hey look my spare is the same as the ones on my jeep. Then by all means keep our economy going. If you work hard for your money then I'd say leave it on back until you really need it. P.S. They make tire covers if your worried about the sun.
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To be honest, I never ran a 5-tire rotation until I got the Jeep. But after reading a few threads about it and talking to other Jeep owners, it made sense. Instead of splitting my road miles between 4 tires, I now do it between 5. That's 20% vice 25%,

And what is "YFOS"?
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Ok this should be end topic. If you have nothing better to do with your money than buy 5 tires every time you need 4 so you can say hey look my spare is the same as the ones on my jeep. Then by all means keep our economy going. If you work hard for your money then I'd say leave it on back until you really need it. P.S. They make tire covers if your worried about the sun.
You won't spend more on tires doing a five tire rotation and always buying five at a time than you will doing a four tire rotation and always buying four every time. They keep the economy going equally.
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P.S. They make tire covers if your worried about the sun.
Like me, my tires don't wear condoms.

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Just to let you know I live in the desert, my jeep is 16 years old with the original spare on back and I'd still use it to get me to the tire shop. So spare tires can last decades not just a few years. Seeing that I live in the hottest driest climate in the United States and my spare is still good. I too say yfos.
Five tire rotation is BS......Rotate the 4..If you dont change size no need to rotaite all 5.
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Just carry a used spare and when you finish an old set and your worried about dry rot put a used one off the old set on the spare and 4 new, rinse and repeat. But really if you rotating 5 tires you really are not using any more tires in the long run because the 5 tires last longer then 4 will. It all works out in the wash. Either way will cost you the same in the long run.

using my previous post (#7) numbers

4 tires at 40K replace in 400K you use 10 sets or 40 tires

5 tires at 50K replace in 400K you use 8 sets of tires or 40 tires
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:30 PM   #51
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Ok this should be end topic. If you have nothing better to do with your money than buy 5 tires every time you need 4 so you can say hey look my spare is the same as the ones on my jeep. Then by all means keep our economy going. If you work hard for your money then I'd say leave it on back until you really need it. P.S. They make tire covers if your worried about the sun.

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YFOS =you're full of **it.

Their maturity (or lack of it) is showing.
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i always rotate 5. that way i not only know that all 5 tires are in safe working order, but also get the extra 20% life out of a set. for those who rotate 4, why not have a tiny spare on the back and save money?
the last thing i need on the trail if i blow a tire is to find out that my spare is not in working condition.
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YFOS..Oh my god did I offend you?? SO SORRY....NOT
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Five tire rotation is BS......Rotate the 4..If you dont change size no need to rotaite all 5.
Obviously, you don't understand basic math.

I rotate my tires every 5000 miles.

Based on your theory, at the second rotation, each of the 4 tires has 10000 miles on them.

My way? If I take one off the road and add a 5th tire at 5K, and continue to rotate them, I'm spreading the load across all 5, not 4. Pretty simple.
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YFOS =you're full of **it.

Their maturity (or lack of it) is showing.

I think your just proud of youself for figuring out what YFOS means..
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YFOS..Oh my god did I offend you?? SO SORRY....NOT
No. I didn't know the acronym. Now that I do, PYHO.
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Obviously, you don't understand basic math.

I rotate my tires every 5000 miles.

Based on your theory, at the second rotation, each of the 4 tires has 10000 miles on them.

My way? If I take one off the road and add a 5th tire at 5K, and continue to rotate them, I'm spreading the load across all 5, not 4. Pretty simple.
But you are still turning in one tire with 1/5 less ware than the rest.So my question remains...Why not just keep the spare(New) and buy 4 instead of 5 ???
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A tire only stays good for 5 to 7 years. I would never run a tire older than 7 years. I haven't had a flat on the HWY in over 20 years. I don't care what is possable to run a tire, I care about safety when it comes to tires. Remember Firestone? Firestone Corp. said their tires were OK to run.
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I dont know about any one else but i rotate the spair becouse im not going to run the same type of tires when i wear this set out. Dont see any point in having a tire hanging off the back of my jeep that dosent match the other 4.

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