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Old 07-19-2011, 06:15 PM   #1
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Too steep an angle?

I have a 2011 Stock Wrangler Unlimited . Do you think this is too steep an angle to go over? This is a Range Rover course.

Yes, I'm a newbie who doesn't want to roll his new jeep.

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Old 07-19-2011, 06:16 PM   #2
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:17 PM   #3
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Was there supposed to be a pic'? oh ok,lol well looks if you take the low side it will be ok but stay off the fence a couple of feet so you don't tip & touch it as you go through
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:33 PM   #4
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i've been over a lot worse.
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You would be suppriesd what your jeep is actually cabable of. You wont have any problem with that!
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:16 PM   #6
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The ledge at the end looks dicey. Take the line to the right and you should pop right into traffic.
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:19 PM   #7
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So where is the obsticle? I wouldn't think twice about driving over that in my bone stock JK sport. That is one of those "off road" things at the Land Rover dealership right? The ones they use to try to convince rich people that the $60,000 Range Rover they are buying really is as capable as a Jeep lol. There are plenty of youtube videos of stock JK's that will give you a good idea of what yours is capable of.
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:24 PM   #8
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From my Rover days, if I recall correctly, those side tilts on the LR Center courses run 37.5*. Range Rover Classics, Defenders, etc had a 'safe' operating side tilt angle of 40*.

When I was living in Boulder a few years back, there was a guy that tried to take his Toyota 4Runner on LR Flat Irons course after hours ... The incline was too much and he rolled.

I've given up my Rover addiction in favor of Jeeps. However, having spent literally hundreds of hours off road behind the wheels Defenders, Range Rover Classics, and Discovery Series 1s (but, often times in the presence of Jeeps), IMHO, they have Jeep beat in the side tilt department. From my (albeit limited) time in my TJ, though good, I'd be leery of anything beyond 35*.

That said, I'm sure there are others with far more experience behind the wheels of Jeeps that would argue with me.

Can't wait to see what the new JKU will do, though.

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Old 07-19-2011, 07:38 PM   #9
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I've had my '08 JKUR sidehill in access of 40°, but

Only with strapped passenger and CARGO NETTED -stuff in the back, nothing on the roof and no rocks/ruts--

I only have a pic of one of the 30° hills, but

The most important advice is, no free flying cargo/ no moving passengers/no lower ruts or upper rocks/slow speed and be VERY CAREFUL with uphill turns--

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I hate -HATE- off camber side hills. Of course, away from the yuppie dealership, they frequently come with bigger consequences.

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Old 07-19-2011, 09:58 PM   #11
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Since we're on the subject of side tilts, one of my favorite side tilt pics ....



Quintessential Camel Trophy.

That said, the camera is rotated about 15 degrees off vertical ... Still impressive given the roof load. I have another great one of a Range Rover Classic at 45*, just gotta find it???

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Edit 1 ... Crap, can't see the image. Will correct ASAP.
Edit 2 - apparently, I can't load images to image shack from my iPhone/iPad. Even with the app, I can't get it to work. But, I did find a smaller version of the pic here:
http://www.cameltrophy.co.uk/history/1983.htm - first pic in the series.
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Jeep used to publish maximum side angle, along with approach, break-over, etc. I quess the legal department put an end to that years ago?
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:42 PM   #13
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Jeep used to publish maximum side angle, along with approach, break-over, etc. I quess the legal department put an end to that years ago?
They still publish it, it is on the second to last page of the wrangler brochure.
I do not see a side angle though.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:46 PM   #14
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Since we're on the subject of side tilts, one of my favorite side tilt pics ....



Quintessential Camel Trophy.

That said, the camera is rotated about 15 degrees off vertical ... Still impressive given the roof load. I have another great one of a Range Rover Classic at 45*, just gotta find it???

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Old 07-20-2011, 10:42 AM   #15
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That's an easy one. I've seen lifted 2 doors do much more then that Rover course pic. Just don't try to race around that corner/off camber and keep your Jeep stable.
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That's an easy one. I've seen lifted 2 doors do much more then that Rover course pic. Just don't try to race around that corner/off camber and keep your Jeep stable.
the higher the lift..the higher the center of gravity...equals less ability on a side hill
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:54 AM   #17
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The ledge at the end looks dicey. Take the line to the right and you should pop right into traffic.

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Old 07-20-2011, 12:27 PM   #18
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:30 PM   #19
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Just lean into it. No big deal! And anyway thats what roll bars are for.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:43 PM   #20
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this is my bone stock JKU last year watch the JKU in front of me to see the angles it is taking with no prob
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:18 PM   #21
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the higher the lift..the higher the center of gravity...equals less ability on a side hill
Exactly why I pointed out that it was lifted and 2 door. A stock JKU will be much more stable with LCG compared to lifted and shorter wheelbase.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:28 PM   #22
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I would get disco'd so your springs can soak up as much of that hill as they can. then go slow. your always safer going slightly up or slightly down the hill verses straight sideways, because more weight will be on either front or rear and that part will start to lift off the groud first. just go slow. my 3 inch lifted Tj can get the front about this far and not roll, and thats with the sway bar connected. so it was pretty stupid.
its about 30 degrees prob a little bit more. and I probably could have gone more if I had a taller stump lol. I imagine a stock JK would be able to go a ton further over.

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